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Recommendations for a combi boiler
I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. The boilers
need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. Can anyone recommend me any good reliable boilers? Thanks |
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try looking at the Idea Istor...
Sungye wrote: I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. Can anyone recommend me any good reliable boilers? Thanks |
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:04:29 -0800, Sungye wrote:
I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. Can anyone recommend me any good reliable boilers? Please read the Boiler choice FAQ. The FAQ will also deal with some of the many wider issues involved. One of which might also include what type of HW system is best suited to your life style and this type of dwelling. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards |
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"Ed Sirett" wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:04:29 -0800, Sungye wrote: I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. Can anyone recommend me any good reliable boilers? Please read the Boiler choice FAQ. The FAQ will also deal with some of the many wider issues involved. One of which might also include what type of HW system is best suited to your life style and this type of dwelling. Take into account is about 20 years out of date. |
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:46:34 +0000, Ed Sirett wrote:
Please read the Boiler choice FAQ. The FAQ will also deal with some of the many wider issues involved. One of which might also include what type of HW system is best suited to your life style and this type of dwelling. There's also some spiel about hot water systems on the wiki at http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?..._Water_Systems |
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"John Stumbles" wrote in message news On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:46:34 +0000, Ed Sirett wrote: Please read the Boiler choice FAQ. The FAQ will also deal with some of the many wider issues involved. One of which might also include what type of HW system is best suited to your life style and this type of dwelling. There's also some spiel about hot water systems on the wiki at http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?..._Water_Systems It is lacking as well. Like most of them. |
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:58:02 +0000, Doctor Drivel wrote:
"John Stumbles" wrote in message news On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:46:34 +0000, Ed Sirett wrote: Please read the Boiler choice FAQ. The FAQ will also deal with some of the many wider issues involved. One of which might also include what type of HW system is best suited to your life style and this type of dwelling. There's also some spiel about hot water systems on the wiki at http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?..._Water_Systems It is lacking as well. Like most of them. You have no excuse; since you there is nothing stopping you from editing it to something that is a little less "lacking". -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards |
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so this plumber was going to install a cheap tat boiler for me. Does anyone know if the powermax by potterton is wall mountable of if its freestanding? |
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"Ed Sirett" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:58:02 +0000, Doctor Drivel wrote: "John Stumbles" wrote in message news On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:46:34 +0000, Ed Sirett wrote: Please read the Boiler choice FAQ. The FAQ will also deal with some of the many wider issues involved. One of which might also include what type of HW system is best suited to your life style and this type of dwelling. There's also some spiel about hot water systems on the wiki at http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?..._Water_Systems It is lacking as well. Like most of them. You have no excuse; since you there is nothing stopping you from editing it to something that is a little less "lacking". That still does not detract from the point that it is lacking. |
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:58:02 +0000, Doctor Drivel wrote:
"John Stumbles" wrote in message news On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:46:34 +0000, Ed Sirett wrote: Please read the Boiler choice FAQ. The FAQ will also deal with some of the many wider issues involved. One of which might also include what type of HW system is best suited to your life style and this type of dwelling. There's also some spiel about hot water systems on the wiki at http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?..._Water_Systems It is lacking as well. Like most of them. For some reason my initial reply was somewhat lacking. Any road you now have absolutely no excuse for being an arm chair whinging specatator about the wiki pages. This is because you can edit the pages so they 'lack' less. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards |
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so the biasi is cheap tat and the this plumber recommend to me.
is the powermax free standing? |
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so the biasi is cheap tat and the this plumber recommend to me.
is the powermax free standing? |
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so the biasi is cheap tat and the this plumber recommend to me.
is the owermax free standing? |
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"Ed Sirett" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:58:02 +0000, Doctor Drivel wrote: "John Stumbles" wrote in message news On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:46:34 +0000, Ed Sirett wrote: Please read the Boiler choice FAQ. The FAQ will also deal with some of the many wider issues involved. One of which might also include what type of HW system is best suited to your life style and this type of dwelling. There's also some spiel about hot water systems on the wiki at http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?..._Water_Systems It is lacking as well. Like most of them. For some reason my initial reply was somewhat lacking. Any road you now have absolutely no excuse for being an arm chair whinging specatator about the wiki pages. This is because you can edit the pages so they 'lack' less. They are still lacking. |
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:58:02 +0000, Doctor Drivel wrote:
There's also some spiel about hot water systems on the wiki at http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?..._Water_Systems It is lacking as well. Like most of them. I know that and I will add to it to make good some of the areas in which it is lacking when I have time. Maybe you'd like to help? Maybe you could add some links to manufacturers' web sites - I know, from some of your previous posts, that you've got lots of those. Even if you'd point to what, specificaly, you think it's lacking that could be helpful. If you don't want to put up new 'finished' content you could use the talk/discussion pages to suggest areas for improvement. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: "John Stumbles" wrote in message news On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:46:34 +0000, Ed Sirett wrote: Please read the Boiler choice FAQ. The FAQ will also deal with some of the many wider issues involved. One of which might also include what type of HW system is best suited to your life style and this type of dwelling. There's also some spiel about hot water systems on the wiki at http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?..._Water_Systems It is lacking as well. Like most of them. By your standards of reading the latest catalogues and recommending untried, every single database like this will be out of date. -- *One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: "John Stumbles" wrote in message news On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:46:34 +0000, Ed Sirett wrote: Please read the Boiler choice FAQ. The FAQ will also deal with some of the many wider issues involved. One of which might also include what type of HW system is best suited to your life style and this type of dwelling. There's also some spiel about hot water systems on the wiki at http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?..._Water_Systems It is lacking as well. Like most of them. By Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. |
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Sungye wrote:
I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. Can anyone recommend me any good reliable boilers? Thanks I wouldn't use a combi for two bathrooms. To supply tow decent showers would mean tye peak power is so large that you would be better off with a mains pressure hot water system cost wise. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Sungye wrote: I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. Can anyone recommend me any good reliable boilers? Thanks I wouldn't use a combi for two bathrooms. To supply tow decent showers would mean tye peak power is so large that you would be better off with a mains pressure hot water system cost wise. Floor mounted combis can cope. Gledhill does three bathrooms. The best well priced wall mounted combi is the Alpha CD50. That will do two showers but not two baths together. |
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On 18 Jan 2007 08:04:29 -0800 someone who may be "Sungye"
wrote this:- I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. Why a combination boiler? The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. The sort of application a combination boiler is not particularly well suited to. I suggest that an ordinary condensing boiler feeding a thermal store, with mains pressure hot water coming from the store, would be a far better choice. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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David Hansen wrote: On 18 Jan 2007 08:04:29 -0800 someone who may be "Sungye" wrote this:- I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. Why a combination boiler? The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. The sort of application a combination boiler is not particularly well suited to. I suggest that an ordinary condensing boiler feeding a thermal store, with mains pressure hot water coming from the store, would be a far better choice. thanks for the advice. yes...I went oto see aplumbers merchant and they suggested a ordinary condensing boiler..such as the Potterton (can't remember the model) it has a water cylinder on top. At the moment,my old boiler is broken, although I have hot water, non of the radiators are hot but there still is a pilot light, therefore, I think its time to change -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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"Sungye" wrote in message oups.com... David Hansen wrote: On 18 Jan 2007 08:04:29 -0800 someone who may be "Sungye" wrote this:- I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. Why a combination boiler? The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. The sort of application a combination boiler is not particularly well suited to. I suggest that an ordinary condensing boiler feeding a thermal store, with mains pressure hot water coming from the store, would be a far better choice. thanks for the advice. yes...I went oto see aplumbers merchant and they suggested a ordinary condensing boiler..such as the Potterton (can't remember the model) it has a water cylinder on top. Powermax? Avoid Pottertons, although the Powermax has a decent reputation. At the moment,my old boiler is broken, although I have hot water, non of the radiators are hot but there still is a pilot light, therefore, I think its time to change |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: "Sungye" wrote in message oups.com... David Hansen wrote: On 18 Jan 2007 08:04:29 -0800 someone who may be "Sungye" wrote this:- I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. Why a combination boiler? The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. The sort of application a combination boiler is not particularly well suited to. I suggest that an ordinary condensing boiler feeding a thermal store, with mains pressure hot water coming from the store, would be a far better choice. thanks for the advice. yes...I went oto see aplumbers merchant and they suggested a ordinary condensing boiler..such as the Potterton (can't remember the model) it has a water cylinder on top. Powermax? Avoid Pottertons, although the Powermax has a decent reputation. I have been recommend the powermax by potterton and also Biazi 32, anu suggestions? |
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Sungye wrote: I have been recommend the powermax by potterton and also Biazi 32, anu suggestions? |
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Sungye wrote: I have been recommend the powermax by potterton and also Biazi 32, any suggestions? |
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"David Hansen" wrote in message ... On 18 Jan 2007 08:04:29 -0800 someone who may be "Sungye" wrote this:- I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. Why a combination boiler? The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. The sort of application a combination boiler is not particularly well suited to. I suggest that an ordinary condensing boiler feeding a thermal store, with mains pressure hot water coming from the store, would be a far better choice. I agree. Look at: http://www.rangecylinders.co.uk/products/flowmax/ And use a Glow Worm Hxi boiler too. |
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Sungye wrote:
I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. Can anyone recommend me any good reliable boilers? Thanks Hi Sungye, I had to change my Boiler a couple of years ago. I did a considerable amount of research and came to the firm conclusion that I would never install a Combi. One of the main failings of a Combi is that the pipes in your House have to be expertly fitted to a very high standard because it runs under a High pressure.If you fit a Combi and try to run on a system with old pipes you are asking for trouble.Unless you are installing a completely new network of pipes I would advise you NOT to install a Combi. I found many of the people I knew had many problems with Combi,some had discarded their Combi after only a few months. I also dismissed Condensing Boilers because of their complexity. The complexity is due to them being stuffed full of microchips,each manufacturer trying to outdo the other in terms of the published league table of Energy Efficiency. I fitted a traditional Boiler and could do so because I live in Scotland. If you live in England you do not have that option because of the change to Building Regulations. If I were you I would avoid a Combi and consider Installing a tried and tested Condensing Boiler,if you can find such a machine.Good Luck Mikie |
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wrote in message ups.com... Sungye wrote: I'm wanting to replace my old boiler for a combi boiler. The boilers need to heat up 13 radiators and two bathrooms over three storeys. Can anyone recommend me any good reliable boilers? Thanks Hi Sungye, I had to change my Boiler a couple of years ago. I did a considerable amount of research and came to the firm conclusion that I would never install a Combi. One of the main failings of a Combi is that the pipes in your House have to be expertly fitted to a very high standard because it runs under a High pressure.If you fit a Combi and try to run on a system with old pipes you are asking for trouble.Unless you are installing a completely new network of pipes I would advise you NOT to install a Combi. I found many of the people I knew had many problems with Combi,some had discarded their Combi after only a few months. I also dismissed Condensing Boilers because of their complexity. The complexity is due to them being stuffed full of microchips,each manufacturer trying to outdo the other in terms of the published league table of Energy Efficiency. I fitted a traditional Boiler and could do so because I live in Scotland. If you live in England you do not have that option because of the change to Building Regulations. If I were you I would avoid a Combi and consider Installing a tried and tested Condensing Boiler,if you can find such a machine.Good Luck Mikie That is the biggest load of tripe I have read in a while. It is wrong on every point. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: That is the biggest load of tripe I have read in a while. It is wrong on every point. Yes - you have a rival. -- *(over a sketch of the titanic) "The boat sank - get over it Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: That is the biggest load of tripe I have read in a while. It is wrong on every point. Yes Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: That is the biggest load of tripe I have read in a while. It is wrong on every point. Yes - you have a rival. -- *(over a sketch of the titanic) "The boat sank - get over it Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. What I have stated regarding the Combi is common knowledge in the Plumbing Trade. I accept that my view on Condensing Boilers may be controversial but its the conclusion I came to. On the Estate where I live I am surrounded by neighbours that have Condensing Boilers which require constant and never ending attention from British Gas. Those who have older Boilers just seem to go on and on without requiring any attention. Having given this clarification I now invite you to lay out the specific points you believe are wrong and I will answer them. |
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wrote in message ps.com... What I have stated regarding the Combi is common knowledge in the Plumbing Trade. What you stated was total balls. Those "professionals" who believe that should get a job on the milk. Plumbers should stick to drains and leave heating alone. There are three bathroom combis around. I accept that my view on Condensing Boilers may be controversial but its the conclusion I came to. Which is totally wrong as you know sweet nothing of the heating business. A non-condensing and condensing boiler is the same except for a larger heat exchanger and drain. The electronics are near identical in most cases. The Atmos doesn't need a drain connection. On the Estate where I live I am surrounded by neighbours that have Condensing Boilers which require constant and never ending attention from British Gas. So they have a cheap crap make installed. Put in a Vaillant, Atag, Geminox, Atmos, ECO-Homtec or Viessmann and see if BG turn up frequently. Those who have older Boilers just seem to go on and on without requiring any attention. And pay 30 to 40% more in fuel too. Having given this clarification I now invite you to lay out the specific points you believe are wrong and I will answer them. As you know sweet FA about boilers and heating it is best to keep quiet, read and learn. All your points are wrong. |
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