I must move a dual 13 amp socket which will be behind a new cooker splash
back into a tiny space between the splash back and a window. Still at
planning stage.

Anyone know of a "one above the other" dual 13 amp socket? never seen one
myself.
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:39:40 +0000 Dave Fawthrop wrote :
Anyone know of a "one above the other" dual 13 amp socket?
never seen one myself.

You could put two single sockets in a dual box mounted vertically.
Otherwise I've never seen anything like this and doubt whether it
would save any space since the top plug flex has to clear the
bottom plug.

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Tony Bryer wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:39:40 +0000 Dave Fawthrop wrote :
Anyone know of a "one above the other" dual 13 amp socket?
never seen one myself.

You could put two single sockets in a dual box mounted vertically.
Otherwise I've never seen anything like this and doubt whether it
would save any space since the top plug flex has to clear the
bottom plug.

But how would you fix the sockets into the box? Surely the threads would be
90 degrees out?

Why not just fit the socket sideways?


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Tony Bryer wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:39:40 +0000 Dave Fawthrop wrote :
Anyone know of a "one above the other" dual 13 amp socket?
never seen one myself.

You could put two single sockets in a dual box mounted vertically.
Otherwise I've never seen anything like this and doubt whether it
would save any space since the top plug flex has to clear the
bottom plug.

But how would you fix the sockets into the box? Surely the threads would
be 90 degrees out?

You use a dual box with 4 lugs like this...
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...48234&ts=61450

Why not just fit the socket sideways?

That would look "funny" and almost certainly won't be SWMBO complient!

On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:54:20 -0000, "Sparks" wrote:

|"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
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| Tony Bryer wrote:
| On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:39:40 +0000 Dave Fawthrop wrote :
| Anyone know of a "one above the other" dual 13 amp socket?
| never seen one myself.
|
| You could put two single sockets in a dual box mounted vertically.
| Otherwise I've never seen anything like this and doubt whether it
| would save any space since the top plug flex has to clear the
| bottom plug.
|
| But how would you fix the sockets into the box? Surely the threads would
| be 90 degrees out?
|
|You use a dual box with 4 lugs like this...
|http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...48234&ts=61450
|
| Why not just fit the socket sideways?
|
|That would look "funny" and almost certainly won't be SWMBO complient!

:-)
I have good control over my SWMBO, as long I do not interfere with cooking
etc.
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:39:40 +0000 someone who may be Dave Fawthrop
wrote this:-

Anyone know of a "one above the other" dual 13 amp socket?

Doubt if there are any, due to the need to provide for the flex
emerging from the plug.

If the "sideways" option does not find favour then, assuming the
twin socket is on a ring, two single sockets with a little space
between them may be the answer.

Sockets too near cookers are not a good idea, as heat and flex don't
mix too well.


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Tony Bryer wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:39:40 +0000 Dave Fawthrop wrote :
Anyone know of a "one above the other" dual 13 amp socket?
never seen one myself.

You could put two single sockets in a dual box mounted vertically.
Otherwise I've never seen anything like this and doubt whether it
would save any space since the top plug flex has to clear the
bottom plug.

But how would you fix the sockets into the box? Surely the threads would
be 90 degrees out?

You use a dual box with 4 lugs like this...
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...48234&ts=61450


Concur: that's exactly what I did.

I also used a similar box to place a 'phone and a TV coax outlet , oe above
the other in a narrow place.

Why not just fit the socket sideways?

That would look "funny" and almost certainly won't be SWMBO complient!

Concur, too

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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:11:14 +0000 someone who may be Dave Fawthrop
wrote this:-

I have good control over my SWMBO, as long I do not interfere with cooking
etc.

No, she lets you think you have good control:-)


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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:48:47 UTC, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

Tony Bryer wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:39:40 +0000 Dave Fawthrop wrote :
Anyone know of a "one above the other" dual 13 amp socket?
never seen one myself.

You could put two single sockets in a dual box mounted vertically.
Otherwise I've never seen anything like this and doubt whether it
would save any space since the top plug flex has to clear the
bottom plug.

But how would you fix the sockets into the box? Surely the threads would be
90 degrees out?

MK do a dual surface box (takes two normal single items) which is
slightly wider than a 'double' box. It has lugs and screw holes on all
sides of each section, so you can mount the items any way up. K2025WHI
was the one I used.

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David Hansen wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:11:14 +0000 someone who may be Dave Fawthrop
wrote this:-

I have good control over my SWMBO, as long I do not interfere with cooking
etc.

No, she lets you think you have good control:-)

My father advised me shortly after I discovered girls; "The more a man thinks
he is in control of a woman, the more the opposite is actually the case".

He was spot on :-)

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My father advised me shortly after I discovered girls; "The more a man
thinks he is in control of a woman, the more the opposite is actually the
case".

He was spot on :-)

It's a wise child ...

:-)

Mary

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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:11:14 +0000 someone who may be Dave Fawthrop
wrote this:-

I have good control over my SWMBO, as long I do not interfere with cooking
etc.

No, she lets you think you have good control:-)

She obviously does it well too.

The alternative isn't worth the candle.

Mary

Dave Fawthrop wrote:

I must move a dual 13 amp socket which will be behind a new cooker splash
back into a tiny space between the splash back and a window. Still at
planning stage.

Anyone know of a "one above the other" dual 13 amp socket? never seen one
myself.
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The only vertical 13A sockets I've seen are in 19" racks and are
manufactured by OLson

http://www.olson.co.uk/13a_vertical.htm

However, the smallest the do is 4-way and the steel construction won't
look good in the kitchen!

The picture does illustrate a problem you haven't considered and nobody
else has mentioned, though. If you fit the sockets in a twin box of
some kind, you will only be able to use one at a time as the cord from
the upper plug obstructs the lower outlet (or the lower plug obstructs
the cord from the upper plug, if you prefer!)

(I speak with some experience, having once put 13A sockets in the
plinth of a built-in wardrobe and then found that they were a tad close
to the floor!)

Terry

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The picture does illustrate a problem you haven't considered and nobody
else has mentioned, though. If you fit the sockets in a twin box of
some kind, you will only be able to use one at a time as the cord from
the upper plug obstructs the lower outlet (or the lower plug obstructs
the cord from the upper plug, if you prefer!)

(I speak with some experience, having once put 13A sockets in the
plinth of a built-in wardrobe and then found that they were a tad close
to the floor!)

Yes, we haven't put sockets on skirting boards for years because of that.
Most modern cables are far more substantial and less flexible than older
ones.

Mary

On 10 Jan 2007 03:06:06 -0800 someone who may be "Terry"
wrote this:-

The picture does illustrate a problem you haven't considered and nobody
else has mentioned,

A few people have mentioned the problem you go on to outline.


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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:06:06 UTC, "Terry" wrote:

The picture does illustrate a problem you haven't considered and nobody
else has mentioned, though. If you fit the sockets in a twin box of
some kind, you will only be able to use one at a time as the cord from
the upper plug obstructs the lower outlet (or the lower plug obstructs
the cord from the upper plug, if you prefer!)

I don't think that's a problem with the solution I and others outlined;
the sockets are sufficiently far apart for it not to be a problem.

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The Medway Handyman wrote:

Why not just fit the socket sideways?

Mounting at 45° is even better. It looks like they're meant to be this
way and "vertical", but it avoids the cables getting in the way. I've
not seen "domestic" box mounting sockets for this but it's common
enough in the "equipment racking" world. I think mine came from
Brennenstuhl.

David Hansen wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:11:14 +0000 someone who may be Dave Fawthrop
wrote this:-

I have good control over my SWMBO, as long I do not interfere with cooking
etc.

No, she lets you think you have good control:-)


What - like that king who imprisoned his wife and mother in law in a
wicker cage on the North Wall of Berwick Castle for three years and fed
them just enough to be kept alive?

Now there was a guy in charge of his marriage!

Terry wrote:
(I speak with some experience, having once put 13A sockets in the
plinth of a built-in wardrobe and then found that they were a tad close
to the floor!)

What happened to the backwards plugs - a bit deeper than normal and the
cable same out by the earth pin?

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Andy Dingley wrote:

Mounting at 45° is even better. It looks like they're meant to be this
way and "vertical", but it avoids the cables getting in the way. I've
not seen "domestic" box mounting sockets for this but it's common
enough in the "equipment racking" world.

Just what I was thinking. For a DIY 1-off it wouldn't be too time
consuming to buy a couple of MK 734s or 735s and mount them on your own
metal front plate. That would give you a 2-gang unswitched socket.
Switching, if required, could be provided using separate switches, e.g.
a 2-gang 20 A DP switch assy made up from gridswitch parts.

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David Hansen wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:11:14 +0000 someone who may be Dave Fawthrop
wrote this:-

I have good control over my SWMBO, as long I do not interfere with
cooking
etc.

No, she lets you think you have good control:-)


What - like that king who imprisoned his wife and mother in law in a
wicker cage on the North Wall of Berwick Castle for three years and fed
them just enough to be kept alive?

Which king was that then?

Now there was a guy in charge of his marriage!

No, it wasn't a marriage without a wife, was it!

Mary