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Anyone dealt with Magnet before? I am fitting a new kitchen and new utility room. From looking on their website and their fantastic on-line virtual planner I am thinking of ordering from them. I want good quality but not for stupidly high cost. Do they have solid drawer bottoms and cabinet backs? Do they supply only 'cos I want to fit it myself. Any other kitchen alternatives? Obviously B+Q et al, but any others you guys might have got on with well? On another note, is the current trend that the utility units style should match the kitchens? Thanks, Steve |
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Keyser Sose wrote: Guys, Any other kitchen alternatives? Obviously B+Q et al, but any others you guys might have got on with well? Thanks, Steve We looked at loads last year and ordered form Wicks. Not the stuff you turn up and take away but the stuff you have to order. Solid wood doors and decent backs and bottoms. Also when I broke a wall bracket they send me a replacement free. Mike Cole |
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"Keyser Sose" wrote in message
... Guys, Anyone dealt with Magnet before? I am fitting a new kitchen and new utility room. From looking on their website and their fantastic on-line virtual planner I am thinking of ordering from them. I want good quality but not for stupidly high cost. Do they have solid drawer bottoms and cabinet backs? Do they supply only 'cos I want to fit it myself. They do a variety of draw types, and will supply only. I think that you will find thatJanuary is the best time to buy as they offer an extra 10% discount -- Michael Chare |
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:14:01 -0000, Keyser Sose wrote:
Anyone dealt with Magnet before? Yes, I'd never, ever order from them again. They are a bunch of lying ****s They never order the correct items, they lie about stock levels, they will hnave you running backwards and forwards to the depot to pick up items which will always be wrong, or not in stock. We ordered a complete kitchen. They delivered half of what we had ordered but every item was wrong. The work top was the wrong type, the base units were the wrong hand - left hand opening where we had ordered right. The wall units the wrong size. An entire wall section missing, no decor panels no handles. The "free gift" promised never arrived, the "compensation" offered was never given. In the end it took over a year to get all the items we had ordered and in the meantime they delivered four times and ****ed up the order every time. Only order from Magnet if you are a masochist. |
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writes Guys, Anyone dealt with Magnet before? I am fitting a new kitchen and new utility room. From looking on their website and their fantastic on-line virtual planner I am thinking of ordering from them. I want good quality but not for stupidly high cost. No idea - but when they ask you for an item you use in the kitchen, take a dildo .... and report back -- geoff |
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Keyser Sose wrote: Guys, Anyone dealt with Magnet before? I am fitting a new kitchen and new utility room. From looking on their website and their fantastic on-line virtual planner I am thinking of ordering from them. I want good quality but not for stupidly high cost. Do they have solid drawer bottoms and cabinet backs? Do they supply only 'cos I want to fit it myself. Any other kitchen alternatives? Obviously B+Q et al, but any others you guys might have got on with well? The reps from Magnet recently called on me and were dissapointed that I had used Howdens for my new kitchen. They emphasized that they would have beat any quote for the order. I have used them for other items and found them to be okay and have friends who have had kitchens off them. They are usually competative anyway. In my particular case I wanted cushion close drawers and these do not come on there competative trade range. As another has pointed out though he has had difficulties with their supply. Don't pay them until the order is complete if there are any worries here. I chose the same for the utility room but don't know what the current fashion is. Regards Legin |
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 02:22:44 GMT, raden wrote:
No idea - but when they ask you for an item you use in the kitchen, take a dildo From the ads, it doesn't seem to matter what you take, they give you the same kitchen. Which is pretty much like real life. IF someone brought in a bunch of dead rocket like that and showed it to me, I'd point out that they don't know the first thing about cooking and suggest storage for ready meals and a microwave. Possibly a storage rack for cookbooks. If they came with a blowtorch I'd point out that they are a sucker for TV chef syndrome. |
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On 2006-12-27 12:24:13 +0000, Huge said:
On 2006-12-27, Steve Firth wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:14:01 -0000, Keyser Sose wrote: Anyone dealt with Magnet before? Yes, I'd never, ever order from them again. They are a bunch of lying ****s Weird. Are you me? They treated us exactly the same, only with added rudeness. I too would never go there again. You mean you let them get away with it, or did you manage to exact compensation and revenge? |
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We have just recently ordered a kitchen from Magnet and i can report that everything we ordered arrived when they said it would on the day they said it would with nothing broken or missing. They have done ok my me thats all i can go on - also all the units were pre-built which made all the difference when i fitted the thing. Hope this helps |
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On 2006-12-27 20:32:06 +0000, Huge said:
On 2006-12-27, Andy Hall wrote: On 2006-12-27 12:24:13 +0000, Huge said: On 2006-12-27, Steve Firth wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:14:01 -0000, Keyser Sose wrote: Anyone dealt with Magnet before? Yes, I'd never, ever order from them again. They are a bunch of lying ****s Weird. Are you me? They treated us exactly the same, only with added rudeness. I too would never go there again. You mean you let them get away with it, or did you manage to exact compensation and revenge? We cancelled our entire order. Fortunately, we'd not given a deposit. And my revenge is persuading people not to use them. Excellent. Hopefully some of the things were special order... Mind you.. the margins are so huge (whoops) that they probably wouldn't notice. Also, that would require competence and in any case when someone is incompetent they either go on blissfully unaware or if they are aware, don't advertise it more than necessary. |
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"Keyser Sose" wrote in message ... Guys, Anyone dealt with Magnet before? I am fitting a new kitchen and new utility room. From looking on their website and their fantastic on-line virtual planner I am thinking of ordering from them. I want good quality but not for stupidly high cost. Do they have solid drawer bottoms and cabinet backs? Do they supply only 'cos I want to fit it myself. Any other kitchen alternatives? Obviously B+Q et al, but any others you guys might have got on with well? On another note, is the current trend that the utility units style should match the kitchens? Thanks, Steve Well, we've had two kitchens from Howdens (trade arm of MFI and units pre-built so we just fitted) and they were excellent, both in quality and in correctness of order, delivery etc.). Ev. |
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:16:29 +0000, Andy Hall wrote:
You mean you let them get away with it, or did you manage to exact compensation and revenge? In my case I turned up day after day (the Magnet outlet was opposite my place of employment) and complained. I stopped people going into the premises and warned them what had happened. After a week of this, when I had actually persuaded about 50 people to look elsewhere they started to take notice of my complaints. They then delivered the kitchen, three times, different load each time. When I called them and asked them to take away the surplus units they refused. How the hell they make a profit is beyond me. |
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On 27 Dec 2006 12:24:13 GMT, Huge wrote:
On 2006-12-27, Steve Firth wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:14:01 -0000, Keyser Sose wrote: Anyone dealt with Magnet before? Yes, I'd never, ever order from them again. They are a bunch of lying ****s Weird. Are you me? It feels like it sometimes but I think Magnet are just ****s who treat every customer this way. Despite my objecting, a builder doing some work for us insisted on sourcing a bullseye window from Magnet last summer. The frame took six weeks to deliver. I picked up the glass last week. So there's no change in their ability to cock up an order. |
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"Keyser Sose" wrote in message
... Guys, Anyone dealt with Magnet before? I am fitting a new kitchen and new utility room. From looking on their website and their fantastic on-line virtual planner I am thinking of ordering from them. I want good quality but not for stupidly high cost. Do they have solid drawer bottoms and cabinet backs? Do they supply only 'cos I want to fit it myself. Any other kitchen alternatives? Obviously B+Q et al, but any others you guys might have got on with well? On another note, is the current trend that the utility units style should match the kitchens? MFi supply the casings ready built so you just fit the doors - I found the drawers to be string enough on metal runners but the backs of the cupboards were just thin hardboard -- Vass YZF-R1, CBR1000F Beer is the answer, but I can't remember the question. |
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:33:31 +0000, Andy Hall
wrote: We cancelled our entire order. Fortunately, we'd not given a deposit. And my revenge is persuading people not to use them. Excellent. Hopefully some of the things were special order... Mind you.. the margins are so huge (whoops) that they probably wouldn't notice. Our experience with them was the same. I'm sure they've been in financial trouble at more than one period in the recent past, and IIRC been bought out. They've closed stores and reduced their range, and no longer do bedroom furniture. Also, that would require competence and in any case when someone is incompetent they either go on blissfully unaware or if they are aware, don't advertise it more than necessary. DG |
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Derek Geldard wrote:
I'm sure they've been in financial trouble at more than one period in the recent past, and IIRC been bought out. They've closed stores and reduced their range, and no longer do bedroom furniture. I noticed a joint TV ad the other day that included magnet, moben, and dolphin all together... that ought to be enough to frigten off anyone! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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legin wrote:
They are usually competative anyway. In my particular case I wanted cushion close drawers and these do not come on there competative trade range. You can get these for retrofit to any range easily enough: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...51625&ts=00071 http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...66354&ts=00099 And I quite like these: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...73827&ts=00099 because you can simply dispense with the mounting holder when needed, drill a 10mm hole and stick the plunger straight in it. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Keyser Sose wrote: Guys, Anyone dealt with Magnet before? I am fitting a new kitchen and new utility room. From looking on their website and their fantastic on-line virtual planner I am thinking of ordering from them. I want good quality but not for stupidly high cost. Do they have solid drawer bottoms and cabinet backs? Do they supply only 'cos I want to fit it myself. Any other kitchen alternatives? Obviously B+Q et al, but any others you guys might have got on with well? On another note, is the current trend that the utility units style should match the kitchens? Thanks, Steve A work colleague ordered £2000 worth of units from them - via his builder friend on the basis of getting the units at trade price. A few days later he noticed identical units for half as much at one of the sheds. He phoned Magnet up to complain and the guy immediatly knocked £800 off the price. This confirmed my suspicions that Magnet are way over priced on a par with the likes of Anglian Conservatories etc. IIRC, their brochure has some crazy MRP prices something like £300 for a double base unit. When I have seen Magnet kitchens fitted - even after years of use, I have never noticed any added value to justify the inflated prices. They trade on snob value of the name so that people can say "Oh, we have a Magnet kitchen" which translates to "We are considerably richer then you". dg |
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On 29 Dec 2006 06:18:25 -0800, "dg" wrote:
When I have seen Magnet kitchens fitted - even after years of use, I have never noticed any added value to justify the inflated prices. They trade on snob value of the name so that people can say "Oh, we have a Magnet kitchen" which translates to "We are considerably richer then you". Surely "We *were* considerably richer than you" ? -- |
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On 2006-12-29 14:18:25 +0000, "dg" said:
When I have seen Magnet kitchens fitted - even after years of use, I have never noticed any added value to justify the inflated prices. They trade on snob value of the name so that people can say "Oh, we have a Magnet kitchen" which translates to "We are considerably richer then you". dg If they were talking about Smallbone or similar, possibly, but not Magnet. |
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On 29 Dec 2006 15:49:30 GMT, Huge wrote:
We rented a holiday cottage once, which had a Smallbone kitchen. It was crap. Our local market town has a "Clive Christian" kitchen showroom. They are even worse than Smallbone. Sub-Ikea quality kitchen units sold with a load of waffle as if they were something special. http://www.luxist.com/2006/02/12/cli...tian-kitchens/ I can honestly say anyone who spends $250,000 on one of these kitchens needs a trip to their shrink first. Anyway, Smallbone of Devizes isn't it? I've been to Devizes a few times, it's not that far away from here. What impresses me is that despite there being many people, there only appear to be three faces. banjo music |
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On 2006-12-29 15:49:30 +0000, Huge said:
On 2006-12-29, Andy Hall wrote: On 2006-12-29 14:18:25 +0000, "dg" said: When I have seen Magnet kitchens fitted - even after years of use, I have never noticed any added value to justify the inflated prices. They trade on snob value of the name so that people can say "Oh, we have a Magnet kitchen" which translates to "We are considerably richer then you". dg If they were talking about Smallbone or similar, possibly, but not Magnet. We rented a holiday cottage once, which had a Smallbone kitchen. It was crap. Oh, I wasn't recommending it or vouching for its quality, simply using it as a better illustration of a wealth statement than Magnet. |
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"Huge" wrote in message ... On 2006-12-29, Andy Hall wrote: On 2006-12-29 14:18:25 +0000, "dg" said: When I have seen Magnet kitchens fitted - even after years of use, I have never noticed any added value to justify the inflated prices. They trade on snob value of the name so that people can say "Oh, we have a Magnet kitchen" which translates to "We are considerably richer then you". dg If they were talking about Smallbone or similar, possibly, but not Magnet. We rented a holiday cottage once, which had a Smallbone kitchen. It was crap. Just like the wab page then. I'm left watching a screen stating: Smallbone of Devizes - Flash detection in progress... It seems incapable of doing anything if one hasn't installed it. tim |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:20:00 -0000 Tim..... wrote :
I'm left watching a screen stating: Smallbone of Devizes - Flash detection in progress... If you're not into Flash then perhaps you're not a potential customer g -- Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk |
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I make handmade kitchens and will often fit rigid built off the shelf
kitchens for friends. All of the companies mentioned have there +ve's and -ve's. Magnets offer reasonable quality kitchens at a price which can be competative if you buy through an account holder. Howdens (my prefered route) offer a great service to the trade and at great prices (I have just fitted a kitchen in my local hall 4.2mx 3.5m for £3.2k including a double sink, handwashing sink, oven, hob, extractor and splashback- appliances sourced elsewhere and I am walking away with a nice amount of money too). You will never get superb quality from a pre manufactured kitchen, but installed properly with all edges treated for water ingress, you'll get a kitchen that will easily last 15 years. My handmade kitchens would last a lifetime, but cost 5 times more. And people often want a change every 10 years too. What does anoy me is hearing stories of folks buying moben kitchens and the likes and paying the same sort of money that would get them a bespoke handmade kitchen with no MDF or chipboard. A handmade kitchen will typically cost £16k inc granite worktops. As for units only having thin backs, again you get what you pay for, but there is no need for a strong back other than piece of mind. It doesnt add to the rigidity of the units. These premanufactured units are well designed to give a combination of strength versus weight and material cost. One good thing about magnet and howdens is there stock level... where else could you walk out with a kitchen the same day as ordering it. MFI, Homebase, B&Q etc- unless buying their budget range- will take typically 6 weeks to get it to you, and then if there are things missing you need to wait another 6 weeks. Hoping this is of help Calum Sabey NewArk Traditional Kitchens 01556 690544 |
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On 30 Dec 2006 13:56:50 GMT, Huge wrote:
On 2006-12-30, wrote: One good thing about magnet and howdens is there stock level... where else could you walk out with a kitchen the same day as ordering it. Not magnet, that's for sure. YMYA, I was just about to give the same answer. As previously posted, Magnet took over three months to not deliver the kitchen ordered. This year having been advised to buy from Magnet against my better judgement, they took over three months to supply the frame for a window and another two months to deliver the glass. Useless bunch of half-witted lying ****ers. Nothing has changed there. And the "quality" they provide is no better than a flat-pack Ikea kitchen, all that you save is the assembly time. |
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message .. . On 30 Dec 2006 13:56:50 GMT, Huge wrote: On 2006-12-30, wrote: One good thing about magnet and howdens is there stock level... where else could you walk out with a kitchen the same day as ordering it. Not magnet, that's for sure. YMYA, I was just about to give the same answer. Yep, As previously posted, Magnet took over three months to not deliver the kitchen ordered. Happened to my sister at her previous house. When looking for a kitchen for the current house she still went to Magnet for a quote. I have no idea why! tim |
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I ordered a Magnet kitchen and got only a partial delivery - shelves
missing. Couldn't get the people at the store to obtain them so after a month we walked into the store and took the shelves from the display kitchens. The staff threatened to call the police, but with all their customers watching fascinated, they didn't have the bottle. But the price was good (Magnet ALWAYS have a 50% off sale); and the quality too. Davy "Michael Chare" wrote in message ... "Keyser Sose" wrote in message ... Guys, Anyone dealt with Magnet before? I am fitting a new kitchen and new utility room. From looking on their website and their fantastic on-line virtual planner I am thinking of ordering from them. I want good quality but not for stupidly high cost. Do they have solid drawer bottoms and cabinet backs? Do they supply only 'cos I want to fit it myself. They do a variety of draw types, and will supply only. I think that you will find thatJanuary is the best time to buy as they offer an extra 10% discount -- Michael Chare |
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On 2006-12-30 18:47:16 +0000, raden said:
In message , Davy writes I ordered a Magnet kitchen and got only a partial delivery - Prolly 'cause they knew you were a TPB ?? Thinkpad button? Swedish Library of Talking Books and Braille? |
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On 2006-12-30 18:47:16 +0000, raden said: In message , Davy writes I ordered a Magnet kitchen and got only a partial delivery - Prolly 'cause they knew you were a TPB ?? Thinkpad button? Swedish Library of Talking Books and Braille? Not a contextual poster ... -- geoff |
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Not a contextual poster ... Pardon? TPB Terrorism Prevention Branch (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime) TPB Tetraphenyl Butadiene TPB The Pirate Bay TPB Theory of Planned Behavior TPB Time-Phased Budget TPB Toronto Preservation Board (Canada) TPB Trade Paperback TPB Trailer Park Boys (TV series) [From http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TPB] I'm still non the wiser... -- Andy |
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Andy Wade wrote:
raden wrote: Not a contextual poster ... Pardon? TPB Terrorism Prevention Branch (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime) TPB Tetraphenyl Butadiene TPB The Pirate Bay TPB Theory of Planned Behavior TPB Time-Phased Budget TPB Toronto Preservation Board (Canada) TPB Trade Paperback TPB Trailer Park Boys (TV series) [From http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TPB] I'm still non the wiser... Top Posting *******? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Rumm writes Andy Wade wrote: raden wrote: Not a contextual poster ... Pardon? TPB Terrorism Prevention Branch (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime) TPB Tetraphenyl Butadiene TPB The Pirate Bay TPB Theory of Planned Behavior TPB Time-Phased Budget TPB Toronto Preservation Board (Canada) TPB Trade Paperback TPB Trailer Park Boys (TV series) [From http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TPB] I'm still non the wiser... Top Posting *******? At last ... -- geoff |
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On 2007-01-01 01:35:02 +0000, raden said:
In message , John Rumm writes Andy Wade wrote: raden wrote: Not a contextual poster ... Pardon? TPB Terrorism Prevention Branch (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime) TPB Tetraphenyl Butadiene TPB The Pirate Bay TPB Theory of Planned Behavior TPB Time-Phased Budget TPB Toronto Preservation Board (Canada) TPB Trade Paperback TPB Trailer Park Boys (TV series) [From http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TPB] I'm still non the wiser... Top Posting *******? At last ... I must admit that I did think Trailer Park Boy. Sort of like this Septics' answer to chavs http://www.trailertrashdoll.com/ |
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