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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
Has anyone yet found a solution to this? I recently fitted both bath
and basin taps from homebase, the Arena style ones if anyone is interested. They both come with plastic washers and nuts, presumably to stop from overtightening and cracking the ceramic. But the basin ones will not tighten enough to stop them from rotating with the slightest force. I fear if I tighten the nut any further it will crack. This has already happened with one and I had to source a replacement nut. I did think of using sealant around the base of the taps (although it doesn't appear necessary as there is a sealing ring in the base). But I'm sure sealant is not going to offer any additional strength. I have removed the washers from the underside of the sink where the nut attaches and gained a little more leverage, but still not enough Please tell me there is a straight forward solution....Bear with soar head |
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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:10:23 -0800, nonymouse wrote:
Has anyone yet found a solution to this? I recently fitted both bath and basin taps from homebase, the Arena style ones if anyone is interested. They both come with plastic washers and nuts, presumably to stop from overtightening and cracking the ceramic. But the basin ones will not tighten enough to stop them from rotating with the slightest force. I fear if I tighten the nut any further it will crack. This has already happened with one and I had to source a replacement nut. I did think of using sealant around the base of the taps (although it doesn't appear necessary as there is a sealing ring in the base). But I'm sure sealant is not going to offer any additional strength. I have removed the washers from the underside of the sink where the nut attaches and gained a little more leverage, but still not enough Please tell me there is a straight forward solution....Bear with soar head ================================ Have you still got the old taps and their (brass) nuts? If so, try one for size using a plastic washer to protect the ceramic. Cic. -- ================================ Testing UBUNTU Linux Everything working so far ================================ |
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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
"nonymouse" wrote in message oups.com... Has anyone yet found a solution to this? I recently fitted both bath and basin taps from homebase, the Arena style ones if anyone is interested. They both come with plastic washers and nuts, presumably to stop from overtightening and cracking the ceramic. But the basin ones will not tighten enough to stop them from rotating with the slightest force. I fear if I tighten the nut any further it will crack. This has already happened with one and I had to source a replacement nut. I did think of using sealant around the base of the taps (although it doesn't appear necessary as there is a sealing ring in the base). But I'm sure sealant is not going to offer any additional strength. I have removed the washers from the underside of the sink where the nut attaches and gained a little more leverage, but still not enough Please tell me there is a straight forward solution....Bear with soar head This usually happens because of the length of thread, ie, the nut reaches the end of the thread before the tap is tight against the sink. Use "top hat" washers under the sink - see step No.7 at this link http://tinyurl.com/vxa43 (link goes to a Focus DIY "How to"). John |
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nonymouse wrote:
Has anyone yet found a solution to this? I recently fitted both bath and basin taps from homebase, the Arena style ones if anyone is interested. They both come with plastic washers and nuts, presumably to stop from overtightening and cracking the ceramic. But the basin ones will not tighten enough to stop them from rotating with the slightest force. I fear if I tighten the nut any further it will crack. This has already happened with one and I had to source a replacement nut. I did think of using sealant around the base of the taps (although it doesn't appear necessary as there is a sealing ring in the base). But I'm sure sealant is not going to offer any additional strength. I have removed the washers from the underside of the sink where the nut attaches and gained a little more leverage, but still not enough Please tell me there is a straight forward solution....Bear with soar head We had this, but our taps were connected with flexible braided tap connectors - solution: replaced the flex with proper copper pipe right through Jon |
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nonymouse wrote: I did think of using sealant around the base of the taps (although it doesn't appear necessary as there is a sealing ring in the base). But I'm sure sealant is not going to offer any additional strength. You may find this is sufficient - I did. As mentioned elsewhere, fixed copper piping to the taps will definitely cure it. Mathew |
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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "nonymouse" saying something like: Please tell me there is a straight forward solution....Bear with soar head Decent quality plastic nuts will tighten a surprising amount, but a lot of them aren't all that good. You can source brass backnuts from a plumbing suppliers or fit the plastic ones with a liberal application of silicone mastic (so that it fills the gap between tap and bath) and allow to cure before using them. -- Dave |
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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
"nonymouse" wrote in message oups.com... Has anyone yet found a solution to this? I recently fitted both bath and basin taps from homebase, the Arena style ones if anyone is interested. They both come with plastic washers and nuts, presumably to stop from overtightening and cracking the ceramic. But the basin ones will not tighten enough to stop them from rotating with the slightest force. I fear if I tighten the nut any further it will crack. This has already happened with one and I had to source a replacement nut. I did think of using sealant around the base of the taps (although it doesn't appear necessary as there is a sealing ring in the base). But I'm sure sealant is not going to offer any additional strength. I have removed the washers from the underside of the sink where the nut attaches and gained a little more leverage, but still not enough Please tell me there is a straight forward solution....Bear with soar head I may have imagined this but I think I've seen replacement nuts in a plumbers merchant - claim to be a new design that addresses "spinning" taps and also keeps them centered in the hole. Some Homebase taps are supplied by Jacuzzi - do you have instructions with a Bradford (01274) number if so its Jacuzzi and it would be worth ringing them. PeterK |
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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
I no longer have the old taps or their nuts. I'm a little concerned
about trying any kind of metal nut incase I crack the ceramic. Thanks Jon for the http://tinyurl.com/vxa43 link; I've checked this out and it looks worth a try, although I can't understand how it would work! We had this, but our taps were connected with flexible braided tap connectors - solution: replaced the flex with proper copper pipe right through Sounds like the best idea yet. A friend of mine (qualified plumber) fitted the bathroom for me and used flexible braided connectors - may ask him to replace these with proper copper pipe. I may have imagined this but I think I've seen replacement nuts in a plumbers merchant - claim to be a new design that addresses "spinning" taps and also keeps them centered in the hole. Some Homebase taps are supplied by Jacuzzi - do you have instructions with a Bradford (01274) number if so its Jacuzzi and it would be worth ringing them. PeterK Cheers Peter, but I no longer have the instructions so am unable to check. However, I will have a search on the Internet using the term "spinning taps" and see what turns up Thanks to all for the advice |
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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
nonymouse wrote:
They both come with plastic washers and nuts, presumably to stop from overtightening and cracking the ceramic. But the basin ones will not tighten enough to stop them from rotating with the slightest force. I fear if I tighten the nut any further it will crack. This has already happened with one and I had to source a replacement nut. I did think of using sealant around the base of the taps (although it doesn't appear necessary as there is a sealing ring in the base). But I'm sure sealant is not going to offer any additional strength. I have removed the washers from the underside of the sink where the nut attaches and gained a little more leverage, but still not enough I come across the spinning tap problem quite often. Push fit plumbing or flexibles are always present. Solid copper pipes don't allow the taps to move. Tap holding technology hasn't kept up with pipe technology! Liberal application of exterior type gripfill or even silicone usually works. I assume you have a decent back nut spanner/tool? -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
I come across the spinning tap problem quite often. Push fit plumbing or
flexibles are always present. Solid copper pipes don't allow the taps to move. Liberal application of exterior type gripfill or even silicone usually works. I assume you have a decent back nut spanner/tool? Sorry Dave, don't have such a spanner; I employed a plumber to do the work for me. I'm kinda hoping he will return and ditch the flexible hosing in favour of copper; although this is now slightly annoying as the bath panel (those taps are also of the same type and not that tight either) is fixed and sealed in place. Where does the gripfill go? On the outside around the base of the tap? And if I go looking for it in homebase, is it actually called gripfill? Replacing the flexible pipes with copper still sounds like the more sensible option |
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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
"nonymouse" wrote in message ups.com... I no longer have the old taps or their nuts. I'm a little concerned about trying any kind of metal nut incase I crack the ceramic. Thanks Jon for the http://tinyurl.com/vxa43 link; I've checked this out and it looks worth a try, although I can't understand how it would work! We had this, but our taps were connected with flexible braided tap connectors - solution: replaced the flex with proper copper pipe right through Sounds like the best idea yet. A friend of mine (qualified plumber) fitted the bathroom for me and used flexible braided connectors - may ask him to replace these with proper copper pipe. I may have imagined this but I think I've seen replacement nuts in a plumbers merchant - claim to be a new design that addresses "spinning" taps and also keeps them centered in the hole. Some Homebase taps are supplied by Jacuzzi - do you have instructions with a Bradford (01274) number if so its Jacuzzi and it would be worth ringing them. PeterK Cheers Peter, but I no longer have the instructions so am unable to check. However, I will have a search on the Internet using the term "spinning taps" and see what turns up Thanks to all for the advice Link to "Fix a Tap" is http://www.essexflanges.com/fix-a-tap.html but I don't think this was the product I saw but it meets your needs PeterK |
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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
Link to "Fix a Tap" is http://www.essexflanges.com/fix-a-tap.html but I don't think this was the product I saw but it meets your needs PeterK Cheers - will take a look |
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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
For stainless steel sinks only apparently! Mine is ceramic. Thanks
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Lose taps with plastic nuts!
"nonymouse" wrote in message oups.com... For stainless steel sinks only apparently! Mine is ceramic. Thanks anyway Are the users a bit heavy handed with taps because the washers need replacing? Some people are have the dastardly habit of screwing them down harder than needed. I know when we have had visitors by the fact the taps in the downstairs bog are too tight and the H & C logos are no longer correctly oriented. God - what a sad life I lead. |
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