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Ceiling light - Odd wire
I have looked at some of the threads in here and some come close but
just not all the way I have a landing ceiling light with another switch downstairs. I recently bought a new light from IKEA. I have wired it up and it works. Unfortunatley my bedroom and the box bedroom does not. Coming out of the ceiling are three grey cables each with a Red, Black and Earth. All three earths are sleeved together. There is also One wire heavily sleeved in Red. I have two blacks going to neutral One black and the single heavy red going to live and the three reds together Why are my other two bedroom lights not working? |
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wrote: I have looked at some of the threads in here and some come close but just not all the way I have a landing ceiling light with another switch downstairs. I recently bought a new light from IKEA. I have wired it up and it works. Unfortunatley my bedroom and the box bedroom does not. Coming out of the ceiling are three grey cables each with a Red, Black and Earth. All three earths are sleeved together. There is also One wire heavily sleeved in Red. I have two blacks going to neutral One black and the single heavy red going to live and the three reds together Why are my other two bedroom lights not working? What you have is a line and neutral in, line and neutral out to the next fitting, and switch pair. (the two way switch wiring will be from the switch, so needn't concern here) Ignoring the earths which should simply be connected together and to any fitting that needs one, you should have:- Three reds connected together but not to the fitting. Two blacks connected together and to the neutral of the fitting. One black - sleeved red - which is the switch return, and connected only to the live on the fitting. -- Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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What I have noticed this morning is that when the light is switched off
the bedroom lights do work. Thanks for your help. I will adjust the wiring this afternoon |
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What I have noticed this morning is that when the light is switched off
the bedroom lights do work. Thanks for your help. I will adjust the wiring this afternoon |
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Working fine now
Thanks to both |
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wrote in message oups.com... Working fine now Thanks to both This is topical because we've just taken down the light fitting in our sitting room, which we're painting and I wanted the ceiling to be done properly. It hasn't been moved since it was put there, at least thirty years ago, and I'm glad I insisted on taking it down. The flex is fabric covered, the connections to the bulb holders (four) were crumbling. Wire was twisted for joining, with those porcelain caps. Ceiling lights, unless they go wrong or are replaced fairly frequently, tend to be ignored. I think we'll be looking at the rest of the house after this. Mary |
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:47:00 -0000 someone who may be "Mary Fisher"
wrote this:- This is topical because we've just taken down the light fitting in our sitting room, which we're painting and I wanted the ceiling to be done properly. It hasn't been moved since it was put there, at least thirty years ago, and I'm glad I insisted on taking it down. The flex is fabric covered, the connections to the bulb holders (four) were crumbling. Wire was twisted for joining, with those porcelain caps. Ceiling lights, unless they go wrong or are replaced fairly frequently, tend to be ignored. I think we'll be looking at the rest of the house after this. Hopefully it is just the lighting circuit(s) that are wired in this sort of rubber insulation, or even better just the drops. It should be replaced as a priority, though if left undisturbed it may last for a while longer. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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"David Hansen" wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:47:00 -0000 someone who may be "Mary Fisher" wrote this:- This is topical because we've just taken down the light fitting in our sitting room, which we're painting and I wanted the ceiling to be done properly. It hasn't been moved since it was put there, at least thirty years ago, and I'm glad I insisted on taking it down. The flex is fabric covered, the connections to the bulb holders (four) were crumbling. Wire was twisted for joining, with those porcelain caps. Ceiling lights, unless they go wrong or are replaced fairly frequently, tend to be ignored. I think we'll be looking at the rest of the house after this. Hopefully it is just the lighting circuit(s) that are wired in this sort of rubber insulation, or even better just the drops. It's not rubber, the wires are insulated with plastic but the flex is covered with fabric. It should be replaced as a priority, though if left undisturbed it may last for a while longer. It IS being re-wired. The supply to it was replaced, along with the the rest of the house rewiring, some years ago. That room is the only one which has been undisturbed in those years. My point was about fixed appliances with original wiring. how many of us check them? Mary |
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:53:37 -0000 someone who may be "Mary Fisher"
wrote this:- It's not rubber, the wires are insulated with plastic but the flex is covered with fabric. Strange, I can't recall coming across such flex. My point was about fixed appliances with original wiring. how many of us check them? Not enough. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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"David Hansen" wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:53:37 -0000 someone who may be "Mary Fisher" wrote this:- It's not rubber, the wires are insulated with plastic but the flex is covered with fabric. Strange, I can't recall coming across such flex. You're not old enough :-) My point was about fixed appliances with original wiring. how many of us check them? Not enough. I wonder how often we should check them? I suppose it would be different for different appliances or when the wiring was installed - it's a minefield! Mary |
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Mary Fisher wrote: It's not rubber, the wires are insulated with plastic but the flex is covered with fabric. Strange, I can't recall coming across such flex. You're not old enough :-) It's still available from the likes of Christopher Wray for period table lamps, etc. Usually with gold or purple fabric covering. Was commonly used for pendant cable 40years plus ago, so doesn't really owe you anything. However, if the permanent wiring has been changed it should have been also. -- *If you don't like the news, go out and make some. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:26:52 -0000 someone who may be "Mary Fisher"
wrote this:- My point was about fixed appliances with original wiring. how many of us check them? Not enough. I wonder how often we should check them? I suppose it would be different for different appliances or when the wiring was installed - it's a minefield! Every ten years is generally fine for fixed wiring. However, to make that sort of judgement people need the proper training. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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