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Bulk LPG 80thou BTU boiler or economy 7 using a 3 KW immersion for hot water
only? I am currently using the economy 7, but was wondering if im doing the right thing? Cheers Steve |
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R.P.McMurphy wrote:
Bulk LPG 80thou BTU boiler or economy 7 using a 3 KW immersion for hot water only? I am currently using the economy 7, but was wondering if im doing the right thing? Cheers Steve Not much in it really. |
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Bulk LPG 80thou BTU boiler or economy 7 using a 3 KW immersion for hot
water only? I presume oil is out of the question? Perhaps mains gas is now available for the cost of installation? Christian. |
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On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:40:30 +0100, Christian McArdle wrote:
I presume oil is out of the question? Oil was expensive, hopefully it's dropped a bit now. 5 years ago 17p/l was the price a year ago it was 35p/l. Donno what it is now I'd hope less than 30p/l given the amount crude prices have fallen recently. Perhaps mains gas is now available for the cost of installation? But what Cost? If there is a suitable main passing the property or within a hundred yards or so it might be economic to have mains gas installed. It's 2 1/2 miles to the nearest gas main from here, lets call it 4,000 yds at £10/yd = £40,000. I wouldn't be surpised if the cost/yd is nearer £100 than £10... -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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I presume oil is out of the question?
Oil was expensive, hopefully it's dropped a bit now. 5 years ago 17p/l was the price a year ago it was 35p/l. Donno what it is now I'd hope less than 30p/l given the amount crude prices have fallen recently. Gas prices go up too. Oil is still much cheaper than LPG or Economy 7. The only reason not to have oil is that you can't install it, or you have mains gas available instead. Christian. |
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In message , Christian
McArdle writes Gas prices go up too Gas prices track oil prices pretty closely long term although you will get high spot prices on gas in winter when the Transco pipeline network is struggling to move gas from importation points to the demand points (generally the large industrial users and gas fired power stations). Then again, because the new pipeline to Norway is being commissioned at the moment there is an excess of gas in the system so the traders are frantically dumping (ie giving the stuff away) to avoid system imbalance charges. However, normal service will resume when the cold weather sets in... -- Andrew Sinclair http://www.smellycat.org |
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from Andrew Sinclair contains these words: Then again, because the new pipeline to Norway is being commissioned at the moment there is an excess of gas in the system so the traders are frantically dumping (ie giving the stuff away) to avoid system imbalance charges. Worse than giving it away - the price went negative for a while today. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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In message , Andrew Sinclair
writes In message , Christian McArdle writes Gas prices go up too Gas prices track oil prices pretty closely long term although you will get high spot prices on gas in winter when the Transco pipeline network is struggling to move gas from importation points to the demand points (generally the large industrial users and gas fired power stations). Then again, because the new pipeline to Norway is being commissioned at the moment there is an excess of gas in the system so the traders are frantically dumping (ie giving the stuff away) to avoid system imbalance charges. I heard on t'radio today that it's so cheap you can't give it away today I'm going to stock up on balloons for the winter -- geoff |
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In message , Guy King
writes The message from Andrew Sinclair contains these words: Then again, because the new pipeline to Norway is being commissioned at the moment there is an excess of gas in the system so the traders are frantically dumping (ie giving the stuff away) to avoid system imbalance charges. Worse than giving it away - the price went negative for a while today. Hands up who struck a fixed price deal a while back then ... -- geoff |
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raden wrote:
In message , Andrew Sinclair writes In message , Christian McArdle writes Gas prices go up too Gas prices track oil prices pretty closely long term although you will get high spot prices on gas in winter when the Transco pipeline network is struggling to move gas from importation points to the demand points (generally the large industrial users and gas fired power stations). Then again, because the new pipeline to Norway is being commissioned at the moment there is an excess of gas in the system so the traders are frantically dumping (ie giving the stuff away) to avoid system imbalance charges. I heard on t'radio today that it's so cheap you can't give it away today I'm going to stock up on balloons for the winter Watch out. The word on the Street has it that the Saudis are pumping lots of oil, so that now their chum Dubya has filled his warchest with oil dollars, the gasoline price will go low until after the mid term elections in November. After that, watch out for supply restrictions and another great gouge by Dubya and his Arab and Texan chums. |
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:33:33 +0100, Owain
wrote: The problem with economy 7 is that your *daytime* units are charged at more than the ordinary (non-economy all-day) rate, and there's a rather limited selection of suppliers offering e7 tariffs. Unless you have a heavy storage heater load and little daytime/evening electricity consumption, you may well be better ditching the e7 and getting a more competitive all-day rate (and improving controls and insulation). We've dispensed with the couple of storage radiators we had, but we find that the regular overnight load (fridges, freezer etc) was enough to nullify the daytime surcharge. If we CBA we could run the dishwasher, washing machine etc overnight and make a further saving. [,,,] DG |
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