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R.P.McMurphy September 30th 06 08:50 PM

Which is cheaper to run?
 
Bulk LPG 80thou BTU boiler or economy 7 using a 3 KW immersion for hot water
only?

I am currently using the economy 7, but was wondering if im doing the right
thing?

Cheers

Steve



The Natural Philosopher September 30th 06 11:22 PM

Which is cheaper to run?
 
R.P.McMurphy wrote:
Bulk LPG 80thou BTU boiler or economy 7 using a 3 KW immersion for hot water
only?

I am currently using the economy 7, but was wondering if im doing the right
thing?

Cheers

Steve


Not much in it really.

Christian McArdle October 2nd 06 11:40 AM

Which is cheaper to run?
 
Bulk LPG 80thou BTU boiler or economy 7 using a 3 KW immersion for hot
water only?


I presume oil is out of the question?

Perhaps mains gas is now available for the cost of installation?

Christian.



Dave Liquorice October 2nd 06 01:28 PM

Which is cheaper to run?
 
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:40:30 +0100, Christian McArdle wrote:

I presume oil is out of the question?


Oil was expensive, hopefully it's dropped a bit now. 5 years ago 17p/l
was the price a year ago it was 35p/l. Donno what it is now I'd hope less
than 30p/l given the amount crude prices have fallen recently.

Perhaps mains gas is now available for the cost of installation?


But what Cost? If there is a suitable main passing the property or within
a hundred yards or so it might be economic to have mains gas installed.

It's 2 1/2 miles to the nearest gas main from here, lets call it 4,000
yds at £10/yd = £40,000. I wouldn't be surpised if the cost/yd is nearer
£100 than £10...

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Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail




Christian McArdle October 2nd 06 02:20 PM

Which is cheaper to run?
 
I presume oil is out of the question?

Oil was expensive, hopefully it's dropped a bit now. 5 years ago 17p/l
was the price a year ago it was 35p/l. Donno what it is now I'd hope less
than 30p/l given the amount crude prices have fallen recently.


Gas prices go up too. Oil is still much cheaper than LPG or Economy 7. The
only reason not to have oil is that you can't install it, or you have mains
gas available instead.

Christian.



Andrew Sinclair October 3rd 06 08:13 PM

Which is cheaper to run?
 
In message , Christian
McArdle writes
Gas prices go up too

Gas prices track oil prices pretty closely long term although you will
get high spot prices on gas in winter when the Transco pipeline network
is struggling to move gas from importation points to the demand points
(generally the large industrial users and gas fired power stations).

Then again, because the new pipeline to Norway is being commissioned at
the moment there is an excess of gas in the system so the traders are
frantically dumping (ie giving the stuff away) to avoid system imbalance
charges.

However, normal service will resume when the cold weather sets in...
--
Andrew Sinclair http://www.smellycat.org

Guy King October 3rd 06 08:23 PM

Which is cheaper to run?
 
The message
from Andrew Sinclair contains these words:

Then again, because the new pipeline to Norway is being commissioned at
the moment there is an excess of gas in the system so the traders are
frantically dumping (ie giving the stuff away) to avoid system imbalance
charges.


Worse than giving it away - the price went negative for a while today.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

raden October 3rd 06 10:41 PM

Which is cheaper to run?
 
In message , Andrew Sinclair
writes
In message , Christian
McArdle writes
Gas prices go up too

Gas prices track oil prices pretty closely long term although you will
get high spot prices on gas in winter when the Transco pipeline network
is struggling to move gas from importation points to the demand points
(generally the large industrial users and gas fired power stations).

Then again, because the new pipeline to Norway is being commissioned at
the moment there is an excess of gas in the system so the traders are
frantically dumping (ie giving the stuff away) to avoid system
imbalance charges.

I heard on t'radio today that it's so cheap you can't give it away today

I'm going to stock up on balloons for the winter


--
geoff

raden October 3rd 06 10:41 PM

Which is cheaper to run?
 
In message , Guy King
writes
The message
from Andrew Sinclair contains these words:

Then again, because the new pipeline to Norway is being commissioned at
the moment there is an excess of gas in the system so the traders are
frantically dumping (ie giving the stuff away) to avoid system imbalance
charges.


Worse than giving it away - the price went negative for a while today.

Hands up who struck a fixed price deal a while back then ...

--
geoff

The Natural Philosopher October 4th 06 01:44 AM

Which is cheaper to run?
 
raden wrote:
In message , Andrew Sinclair
writes
In message , Christian
McArdle writes
Gas prices go up too

Gas prices track oil prices pretty closely long term although you will
get high spot prices on gas in winter when the Transco pipeline
network is struggling to move gas from importation points to the
demand points (generally the large industrial users and gas fired
power stations).

Then again, because the new pipeline to Norway is being commissioned
at the moment there is an excess of gas in the system so the traders
are frantically dumping (ie giving the stuff away) to avoid system
imbalance charges.

I heard on t'radio today that it's so cheap you can't give it away today

I'm going to stock up on balloons for the winter


Watch out. The word on the Street has it that the Saudis are pumping
lots of oil, so that now their chum Dubya has filled his warchest with
oil dollars, the gasoline price will go low until after the mid term
elections in November.

After that, watch out for supply restrictions and another great gouge by
Dubya and his Arab and Texan chums.



Derek Geldard October 10th 06 09:42 PM

Which is cheaper to run?
 
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:33:33 +0100, Owain
wrote:

The problem with economy 7 is that your *daytime* units are charged at
more than the ordinary (non-economy all-day) rate, and there's a rather
limited selection of suppliers offering e7 tariffs.

Unless you have a heavy storage heater load and little daytime/evening
electricity consumption, you may well be better ditching the e7 and
getting a more competitive all-day rate (and improving controls and
insulation).


We've dispensed with the couple of storage radiators we had, but we
find that the regular overnight load (fridges, freezer etc) was enough
to nullify the daytime surcharge. If we CBA we could run the
dishwasher, washing machine etc overnight and make a further saving.

[,,,]

DG


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