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Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on your
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Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on
your meter back?


I new a bloke who once tried to make one of those,he got the biggest
transform he could find,took the windings of one side of the transformer,
rewound it with a couple of winds of earthing wire and blew the **** out of
the 60Amp fuse and burned his hands in the process.

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Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on
your meter back?


Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite replied:
I new a bloke who once tried to make one of those,he got the biggest
transform he could find,took the windings of one side of the transformer,
rewound it with a couple of winds of earthing wire and blew the **** out

of
the 60Amp fuse and burned his hands in the process.

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He must have wired it up wrong, or put the leads in the wrong terminal on
the meter.

I've just tried an old one, but instead of the wheel rotating back, it just
turns back a bit then stops, as if this meter has some kind of anti rewind
thingy.
Is this possible?


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He must have wired it up wrong, or put the leads in the wrong terminal on
the meter.

I've just tried an old one, but instead of the wheel rotating back, it just
turns back a bit then stops, as if this meter has some kind of anti rewind
thingy.
Is this possible?


So here you are, telling everyone you've actually committed an offence, and
with all the necessary info to trace you as well.

The various companies have fraud teams dedicated to tracking down people
who dishonestly abstract electricity. I reckon there'll be an application
for disclosure before too long.

Enjoy your weekend.

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Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on
your meter back?


I know microwave transformers were used but have no idea how to. i'm sure
there must be wiring diagrams on the net somewhere. The modified microwave
transformer was called an 'autotransformer' if thats any help
I trust this is for educational purposes only ;-)

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p.mc wrote:
Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on
your meter back?


I know microwave transformers were used but have no idea how to. i'm sure
there must be wiring diagrams on the net somewhere. The modified microwave
transformer was called an 'autotransformer' if thats any help
I trust this is for educational purposes only ;-)

Chris

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On the educational note, sureley you would just connect from the main
cutout direct to the CU, leaving the meter in place, path of least
resistance and all that, current would flow down the inserted cable.
but why you would go to such lengths to save 10 - 15 a week is
beyond me.

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p.mc wrote:
Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on
your meter back?


I know microwave transformers were used but have no idea how to. i'm

sure
there must be wiring diagrams on the net somewhere. The modified

microwave
transformer was called an 'autotransformer' if thats any help
I trust this is for educational purposes only ;-)

Chris

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On the educational note, sureley you would just connect from the main
cutout direct to the CU, leaving the meter in place, path of least
resistance and all that, current would flow down the inserted cable.
but why you would go to such lengths to save 10 - 15 a week is
beyond me.

He'll save far more than that. In prison he'll get free meals and a
bed for the night and may even blag some free vocational training.

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but why you would go to such lengths to save 10 - 15 a week is
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Save? I think you mean STEAL?

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He must have wired it up wrong, or put the leads in the wrong terminal

on
the meter.

I've just tried an old one, but instead of the wheel rotating back, it

just
turns back a bit then stops, as if this meter has some kind of anti

rewind
thingy.
Is this possible?


So here you are, telling everyone you've actually committed an offence,

and
with all the necessary info to trace you as well.

The various companies have fraud teams dedicated to tracking down people
who dishonestly abstract electricity.


No they dont, i have reported a case of the junky upstairs from me fiddling
the meter,(an incredibly simple operation requiring a piece of wire) even
offering photographic evidence and they refused to do anything about it.

I reckon there'll be an application
for disclosure before too long.

Enjoy your weekend.

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Staffbull
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but why you would go to such lengths to save 10 - 15 a week is
beyond me.


Save? I think you mean STEAL?


Well said.

It's not stealing from the company, it's stealing form other customers. That
might include some of us.

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The various companies have fraud teams dedicated to tracking down people
who dishonestly abstract electricity.

No they dont, i have reported a case of the junky upstairs from me fiddling
the meter


Some definitely do.
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No they dont, i have reported a case of the junky upstairs from me fiddling
the meter,(an incredibly simple operation requiring a piece of wire) even
offering photographic evidence and they refused to do anything about it.


"They" being ...? These days wouldn't you have to contact the MPAS[1]
to find out who is the supplier to the premises before you could report
it? Then the supplier contacts their meter operator. Or can you go
straight to the DNO[2] and report it as a dangerous situation? The
latter ought to get someone out pretty quickly.

[1] Meter point administration service
[2] Distribution network operator

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but why you would go to such lengths to save 10 - 15 a week is
beyond me.


It's a lot more than that if you're running grow-lamps in the attic. :-)

He'll save far more than that. In prison he'll get free meals and a
bed for the night and may even blag some free vocational training.


Like how to be an electrician, perhaps?

Owain


North Wales police do infra red passes over properties apparently to
see if they can find any "white roofs" there are rumours that the leccy
board alert them is copious amounts of power are suddenly consumend by
a property. There are a lot of polytunnels sprouting up around here now
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Owain wrote:

Andrew Mawson wrote:
but why you would go to such lengths to save 10 - 15 a week is
beyond me.


It's a lot more than that if you're running grow-lamps in the attic. :-)

He'll save far more than that. In prison he'll get free meals and a
bed for the night and may even blag some free vocational training.


Like how to be an electrician, perhaps?

Owain


Think you may have somethinf there, or are the "stage lights" ;-)

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Hi

I want to light a stage up using (4 or 6) light fittings with either
(300watt or 500watt) Par bulbs in each fitting,


**let's assume it's a (6) fittings with 300watt par bulb scenario**


I plan to feed the lights from a 13amp plugtop from a fixed RCD twin
socket, the feed will be 1.75 flex into a double pole switch, then onto
a
junction box where I will then take (6) switched feeds to each
individual
light, each with an inline connector with butal on the secondary side
of the
connectors for heat reasons and also easy removal and replacement.


*Questions*


1. Is this ok?
2. Is the 13amp fuse in the plugtop ok?
3. Also the light fittings can take 500watt Par bulbs. Would this be
too
much for the 13 amp plugtop, if so should I do 2 seperate runs with (2)

13amp plugtops and (2) double pole switches?
4. If you could provide a plan using the materials mentoined with a
(6) 500watt lights scenario, and also
(4) 500watt lights scenario.
(6) 300watt lights scenario.
(4) 300watt lights scenario. I'd be very gratefull.


I know there's probably a better way to do this but I want to keep it
simple
and cost effective.


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p.mc wrote:
Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on
your meter back?


I know microwave transformers were used but have no idea how to. i'm sure
there must be wiring diagrams on the net somewhere. The modified microwave
transformer was called an 'autotransformer' if thats any help
I trust this is for educational purposes only ;-)

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but why you would go to such lengths to save 10 - 15 a week is
beyond me.
It's a lot more than that if you're running grow-lamps in the attic. :-)

Think you may have somethinf there, or are the "stage lights" ;-)
.... easy removal and replacement.


Like when plod comes a-visiting?

Owain


Oh!! Owain, you have such a suspicious mind...I'll sing that on stage for
you when I've done the lights. :-))

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Staffbull
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but why you would go to such lengths to save 10 - 15 a week is
beyond me.


Save? I think you mean STEAL?


Well said.

It's not stealing from the company, it's stealing form other customers.

That
might include some of us.

Mary



"Come on lads...Let's get him"... :-)))

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Think you may have somethinf there, or are the "stage lights" ;-)
.... easy removal and replacement.
Like when plod comes a-visiting?

Oh!! Owain, you have such a suspicious mind...I'll sing that on stage for
you when I've done the lights. :-))


Dribble will be along with some dubiously rhyming lyrics "real soon
now"; it's Friday night so Nursey lets him have half an hour on the
internet between bathtime and cocoa.



Apparently not

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No they dont, i have reported a case of the junky upstairs from me

fiddling
the meter,(an incredibly simple operation requiring a piece of wire)

even
offering photographic evidence and they refused to do anything about it.


"They" being ...?


They being- electricity supply company, city council (as landlord) and local
police station
the security of a standard electricity meter is sufficient evidence of the
lack of interest by suppliers in the pursuit of such theft, check it out it
only takes a piece of wire , and no tools


These days wouldn't you have to contact the MPAS[1]
to find out who is the supplier to the premises before you could report
it? Then the supplier contacts their meter operator. Or can you go
straight to the DNO[2] and report it as a dangerous situation? The
latter ought to get someone out pretty quickly.

[1] Meter point administration service
[2] Distribution network operator

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dont understand what youre saying above, but as i said it did not "get
someone out pretty quickly."


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They being- electricity supply company,


Which one? If you correctly identified the one supplying the premises
in question (not necessarily the same as yours, of course) they ought to
have shown some concerned.

city council (as landlord) and local police station


No, I can't see either of those being interested enough to send someone
out quickly.

dont understand what youre saying above, but as i said it did not "get
someone out pretty quickly."


For a quick response try contacting the DNO on their emergency number
and report it as a dangerous situation. The metering equipment is no
longer their direct concern (it belongs to a meter operating company,
e.g. (round here) Siemens Metering) but they do have the responsibility
for safe operation of the supply network. At the very least they could
pull the main fuse and refer the matter to the metering company.

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They being- electricity supply company,


Which one? If you correctly identified the one supplying the premises
in question (not necessarily the same as yours, of course) they ought to
have shown some concerned.

city council (as landlord) and local police station


No, I can't see either of those being interested enough to send someone
out quickly.

dont understand what youre saying above, but as i said it did not "get
someone out pretty quickly."


For a quick response try contacting the DNO on their emergency number
and report it as a dangerous situation. The metering equipment is no
longer their direct concern (it belongs to a meter operating company,
e.g. (round here) Siemens Metering) but they do have the responsibility
for safe operation of the supply network. At the very least they could
pull the main fuse and refer the matter to the metering company.

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I have never heard of this DNO or MPAS nor was I offered a contact number by
any of the other organisations I contacted and assume they had never heard
of it either.I did contact EMEB if thats what you mean.As far as I know
Siemens is only involved as meter readers rather than in any other capacity.
I would have thought a landlord would have been concerned by the possibility
of their property being burned down, but apparently not, and as we all know
the police have no interest in 'minor domestic matters' such as theft.
As an aside the meter actually caught fire a year or so later and frankly
the quality of the repair leaves something to be desired (exposed copper
ends where the wire was cropped - dont know if its live but it certainly
looks dodgy).
As i said the real level of concern regarding this is shown by the total
insecurity of the meter itself.


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I've just tried an old one, but instead of the wheel rotating back, it just
turns back a bit then stops, as if this meter has some kind of anti rewind
thingy.


It has a ratchet mechanism to stop the wheel going backwards. Many
dial meters do.



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