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Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on your
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Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on your meter back? I new a bloke who once tried to make one of those,he got the biggest transform he could find,took the windings of one side of the transformer, rewound it with a couple of winds of earthing wire and blew the **** out of the 60Amp fuse and burned his hands in the process. -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
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![]() "The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message .uk... p.mc wrote: Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on your meter back? Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite replied: I new a bloke who once tried to make one of those,he got the biggest transform he could find,took the windings of one side of the transformer, rewound it with a couple of winds of earthing wire and blew the **** out of the 60Amp fuse and burned his hands in the process. -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite He must have wired it up wrong, or put the leads in the wrong terminal on the meter. I've just tried an old one, but instead of the wheel rotating back, it just turns back a bit then stops, as if this meter has some kind of anti rewind thingy. Is this possible? |
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 03:16:46 +0100, p.mc wrote:
From: "p.mc" nothanks.ok Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y References: k Subject: leccy on de fiddle....Teehee!! Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 03:16:46 +0100 Lines: 30 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Message-ID: X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.106.248.109 NNTP-Posting-Host: mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com X-Trace: 30 Sep 2006 03:17:12 +0100, mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!tiscali!newsfee d2.ip.tiscali.net!212.74.112.120.MISMATCH!mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com!mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com Xref: uni-berlin.de uk.d-i-y:648194 snip He must have wired it up wrong, or put the leads in the wrong terminal on the meter. I've just tried an old one, but instead of the wheel rotating back, it just turns back a bit then stops, as if this meter has some kind of anti rewind thingy. Is this possible? So here you are, telling everyone you've actually committed an offence, and with all the necessary info to trace you as well. The various companies have fraud teams dedicated to tracking down people who dishonestly abstract electricity. I reckon there'll be an application for disclosure before too long. Enjoy your weekend. -- the dot wanderer at tesco dot net |
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Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on your meter back? I know microwave transformers were used but have no idea how to. i'm sure there must be wiring diagrams on the net somewhere. The modified microwave transformer was called an 'autotransformer' if thats any help I trust this is for educational purposes only ;-) Chris -- http://tinyurl.com/hhlr |
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![]() chris 159 wrote: p.mc wrote: Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on your meter back? I know microwave transformers were used but have no idea how to. i'm sure there must be wiring diagrams on the net somewhere. The modified microwave transformer was called an 'autotransformer' if thats any help I trust this is for educational purposes only ;-) Chris -- http://tinyurl.com/hhlr On the educational note, sureley you would just connect from the main cutout direct to the CU, leaving the meter in place, path of least resistance and all that, current would flow down the inserted cable. but why you would go to such lengths to save £10 - £15 a week is beyond me. |
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![]() "Staffbull" wrote in message oups.com... chris 159 wrote: p.mc wrote: Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on your meter back? I know microwave transformers were used but have no idea how to. i'm sure there must be wiring diagrams on the net somewhere. The modified microwave transformer was called an 'autotransformer' if thats any help I trust this is for educational purposes only ;-) Chris -- http://tinyurl.com/hhlr On the educational note, sureley you would just connect from the main cutout direct to the CU, leaving the meter in place, path of least resistance and all that, current would flow down the inserted cable. but why you would go to such lengths to save £10 - £15 a week is beyond me. He'll save far more than that. In prison he'll get free meals and a bed for the night and may even blag some free vocational training. AWEM |
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In article .com, Staffbull
wrote: but why you would go to such lengths to save £10 - £15 a week is beyond me. Save? I think you mean STEAL? -- AJL |
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![]() "The Wanderer" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 03:16:46 +0100, p.mc wrote: From: "p.mc" nothanks.ok Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y References: k Subject: leccy on de fiddle....Teehee!! Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 03:16:46 +0100 Lines: 30 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Message-ID: X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.106.248.109 NNTP-Posting-Host: mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com X-Trace: 30 Sep 2006 03:17:12 +0100, mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-onlin e.de!t-online.de!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!tiscali!newsfee d2.ip.tiscali.net!2 12.74.112.120.MISMATCH!mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com!mk-nntp-2.news.uk.t iscali.com Xref: uni-berlin.de uk.d-i-y:648194 snip He must have wired it up wrong, or put the leads in the wrong terminal on the meter. I've just tried an old one, but instead of the wheel rotating back, it just turns back a bit then stops, as if this meter has some kind of anti rewind thingy. Is this possible? So here you are, telling everyone you've actually committed an offence, and with all the necessary info to trace you as well. The various companies have fraud teams dedicated to tracking down people who dishonestly abstract electricity. No they dont, i have reported a case of the junky upstairs from me fiddling the meter,(an incredibly simple operation requiring a piece of wire) even offering photographic evidence and they refused to do anything about it. I reckon there'll be an application for disclosure before too long. Enjoy your weekend. -- the dot wanderer at tesco dot net |
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![]() "Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" wrote in message . .. In article .com, Staffbull wrote: but why you would go to such lengths to save £10 - £15 a week is beyond me. Save? I think you mean STEAL? Well said. It's not stealing from the company, it's stealing form other customers. That might include some of us. Mary |
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The various companies have fraud teams dedicated to tracking down people
who dishonestly abstract electricity. No they dont, i have reported a case of the junky upstairs from me fiddling the meter Some definitely do. |
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No they dont, i have reported a case of the junky upstairs from me fiddling the meter,(an incredibly simple operation requiring a piece of wire) even offering photographic evidence and they refused to do anything about it. "They" being ...? These days wouldn't you have to contact the MPAS[1] to find out who is the supplier to the premises before you could report it? Then the supplier contacts their meter operator. Or can you go straight to the DNO[2] and report it as a dangerous situation? The latter ought to get someone out pretty quickly. [1] Meter point administration service [2] Distribution network operator -- Andy |
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![]() Owain wrote: Andrew Mawson wrote: but why you would go to such lengths to save £10 - £15 a week is beyond me. It's a lot more than that if you're running grow-lamps in the attic. :-) He'll save far more than that. In prison he'll get free meals and a bed for the night and may even blag some free vocational training. Like how to be an electrician, perhaps? Owain North Wales police do infra red passes over properties apparently to see if they can find any "white roofs" there are rumours that the leccy board alert them is copious amounts of power are suddenly consumend by a property. There are a lot of polytunnels sprouting up around here now !!! |
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![]() Owain wrote: Andrew Mawson wrote: but why you would go to such lengths to save £10 - £15 a week is beyond me. It's a lot more than that if you're running grow-lamps in the attic. :-) He'll save far more than that. In prison he'll get free meals and a bed for the night and may even blag some free vocational training. Like how to be an electrician, perhaps? Owain Think you may have somethinf there, or are the "stage lights" ;-) wiring stage lights All 2 messages in topic - view as tree From: p.mc - view profile Date: Sat, Sep 30 2006 4:14 am Email: "p.mc" nothanks.ok Groups: alt.engineering.electrical Not yet ratedRating: show options Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse | Find messages by this author Hi I want to light a stage up using (4 or 6) light fittings with either (300watt or 500watt) Par bulbs in each fitting, **let's assume it's a (6) fittings with 300watt par bulb scenario** I plan to feed the lights from a 13amp plugtop from a fixed RCD twin socket, the feed will be 1.75 flex into a double pole switch, then onto a junction box where I will then take (6) switched feeds to each individual light, each with an inline connector with butal on the secondary side of the connectors for heat reasons and also easy removal and replacement. *Questions* 1. Is this ok? 2. Is the 13amp fuse in the plugtop ok? 3. Also the light fittings can take 500watt Par bulbs. Would this be too much for the 13 amp plugtop, if so should I do 2 seperate runs with (2) 13amp plugtops and (2) double pole switches? 4. If you could provide a plan using the materials mentoined with a (6) 500watt lights scenario, and also (4) 500watt lights scenario. (6) 300watt lights scenario. (4) 300watt lights scenario. I'd be very gratefull. I know there's probably a better way to do this but I want to keep it simple and cost effective. T.I.A -- Regards |
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"chris 159" wrote in message
... p.mc wrote: Anyone know how to make one of those boxes that turns the wheel on your meter back? I know microwave transformers were used but have no idea how to. i'm sure there must be wiring diagrams on the net somewhere. The modified microwave transformer was called an 'autotransformer' if thats any help I trust this is for educational purposes only ;-) Chris -- http://tinyurl.com/hhlr Cheers Chris -- Regards p.mc |
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"Owain" wrote in message
... Staffbull wrote: Owain wrote: but why you would go to such lengths to save £10 - £15 a week is beyond me. It's a lot more than that if you're running grow-lamps in the attic. :-) Think you may have somethinf there, or are the "stage lights" ;-) .... easy removal and replacement. Like when plod comes a-visiting? Owain Oh!! Owain, you have such a suspicious mind...I'll sing that on stage for you when I've done the lights. :-)) -- Regards p.mc |
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. net... "Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" wrote in message . .. In article .com, Staffbull wrote: but why you would go to such lengths to save £10 - £15 a week is beyond me. Save? I think you mean STEAL? Well said. It's not stealing from the company, it's stealing form other customers. That might include some of us. Mary "Come on lads...Let's get him"... :-))) -- Regards p.mc |
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In message , Owain
writes p.mc wrote: Think you may have somethinf there, or are the "stage lights" ;-) .... easy removal and replacement. Like when plod comes a-visiting? Oh!! Owain, you have such a suspicious mind...I'll sing that on stage for you when I've done the lights. :-)) Dribble will be along with some dubiously rhyming lyrics "real soon now"; it's Friday night so Nursey lets him have half an hour on the internet between bathtime and cocoa. Apparently not CRP night -- geoff |
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![]() "Andy Wade" wrote in message ... news wrote: No they dont, i have reported a case of the junky upstairs from me fiddling the meter,(an incredibly simple operation requiring a piece of wire) even offering photographic evidence and they refused to do anything about it. "They" being ...? They being- electricity supply company, city council (as landlord) and local police station the security of a standard electricity meter is sufficient evidence of the lack of interest by suppliers in the pursuit of such theft, check it out it only takes a piece of wire , and no tools These days wouldn't you have to contact the MPAS[1] to find out who is the supplier to the premises before you could report it? Then the supplier contacts their meter operator. Or can you go straight to the DNO[2] and report it as a dangerous situation? The latter ought to get someone out pretty quickly. [1] Meter point administration service [2] Distribution network operator -- Andy dont understand what youre saying above, but as i said it did not "get someone out pretty quickly." |
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They being- electricity supply company, Which one? If you correctly identified the one supplying the premises in question (not necessarily the same as yours, of course) they ought to have shown some concerned. city council (as landlord) and local police station No, I can't see either of those being interested enough to send someone out quickly. dont understand what youre saying above, but as i said it did not "get someone out pretty quickly." For a quick response try contacting the DNO on their emergency number and report it as a dangerous situation. The metering equipment is no longer their direct concern (it belongs to a meter operating company, e.g. (round here) Siemens Metering) but they do have the responsibility for safe operation of the supply network. At the very least they could pull the main fuse and refer the matter to the metering company. -- Andy |
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![]() "Andy Wade" wrote in message ... news wrote: They being- electricity supply company, Which one? If you correctly identified the one supplying the premises in question (not necessarily the same as yours, of course) they ought to have shown some concerned. city council (as landlord) and local police station No, I can't see either of those being interested enough to send someone out quickly. dont understand what youre saying above, but as i said it did not "get someone out pretty quickly." For a quick response try contacting the DNO on their emergency number and report it as a dangerous situation. The metering equipment is no longer their direct concern (it belongs to a meter operating company, e.g. (round here) Siemens Metering) but they do have the responsibility for safe operation of the supply network. At the very least they could pull the main fuse and refer the matter to the metering company. -- Andy I have never heard of this DNO or MPAS nor was I offered a contact number by any of the other organisations I contacted and assume they had never heard of it either.I did contact EMEB if thats what you mean.As far as I know Siemens is only involved as meter readers rather than in any other capacity. I would have thought a landlord would have been concerned by the possibility of their property being burned down, but apparently not, and as we all know the police have no interest in 'minor domestic matters' such as theft. As an aside the meter actually caught fire a year or so later and frankly the quality of the repair leaves something to be desired (exposed copper ends where the wire was cropped - dont know if its live but it certainly looks dodgy). As i said the real level of concern regarding this is shown by the total insecurity of the meter itself. |
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 03:16:46 +0100 someone who may be "p.mc"
nothanks.ok wrote this:- I've just tried an old one, but instead of the wheel rotating back, it just turns back a bit then stops, as if this meter has some kind of anti rewind thingy. It has a ratchet mechanism to stop the wheel going backwards. Many dial meters do. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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