Hi All

I am trying to dismantle a child's climbing frame. It is contructed from
metal tubes. It has six legs which are formed by inserting short tubes into
each other. It has been standing for 7 years, and I cannot pull these pieces
apart (well, I have managed two). Any advice?
Ta.

Grumps wrote:
Hi All

I am trying to dismantle a child's climbing frame. It is contructed from
metal tubes. It has six legs which are formed by inserting short tubes into
each other. It has been standing for 7 years, and I cannot pull these pieces
apart (well, I have managed two). Any advice?
Ta.

Plusgas ( similar to WD40) seems to be the best for any penatrating
required, if its not painted or you dont care blowtorch and a few slaps
with a hammer, but be careful not to bend the pipes or theyll be harder
to come out.

Heat

wd40 and two pairs of stilsons - rotate to break join then pull apart, if
its from tp toys and its rusted together phone them - they have a 10years
rustproof guarantee - may get some new ones if thats what you want

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Hi All

I am trying to dismantle a child's climbing frame. It is contructed from
metal tubes. It has six legs which are formed by inserting short tubes
into each other. It has been standing for 7 years, and I cannot pull these
pieces apart (well, I have managed two). Any advice?
Ta.

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:03:57 UTC, "Staffbull"
wrote:


Grumps wrote:
Hi All

I am trying to dismantle a child's climbing frame. It is contructed from
metal tubes. It has six legs which are formed by inserting short tubes into
each other. It has been standing for 7 years, and I cannot pull these pieces
apart (well, I have managed two). Any advice?
Ta.

Plusgas ( similar to WD40) seems to be the best for any penatrating
required, if its not painted or you dont care blowtorch and a few slaps
with a hammer, but be careful not to bend the pipes or theyll be harder
to come out.

Plusgas, as stated. But not WD40 - not really designed for that. WD40 is
a water displacer, and Plusgas is a 'dismantling agent' or some such.

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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:15:44 UTC, "NikV" wrote:

wd40 and two pairs of stilsons - rotate to break join then pull apart, if
its from tp toys and its rusted together phone them - they have a 10years
rustproof guarantee - may get some new ones if thats what you want

Not WD40 - it's not designed for it. Plusgas.

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from "Grumps" contains these words:

I am trying to dismantle a child's climbing frame. It is contructed from
metal tubes. It has six legs which are formed by inserting short tubes into
each other. It has been standing for 7 years, and I cannot pull these
pieces
apart (well, I have managed two). Any advice?

Graphited penetrating and easing oil. WD40 claims it's good, but it's
not a patch on the proper stuff.

Dribble it round the joint (invert the frame if needed so the oil can
trickle down into the crevices) and leave it a day.

Warming it will help, too. With concentric rings, the outer one will
always expand more than the inner as they're heated.

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NikV wrote:
Hi All

I am trying to dismantle a child's climbing frame. It is contructed
from metal tubes. It has six legs which are formed by inserting
short tubes into each other. It has been standing for 7 years, and I
cannot pull these pieces apart (well, I have managed two). Any
advice? Ta.
wd40 and two pairs of stilsons - rotate to break join then pull
apart, if its from tp toys and its rusted together phone them - they
have a 10years rustproof guarantee - may get some new ones if thats
what you want

Thanks. I've only got WD40 so I'll have to try that.
It is from tp toys, but the lifetime guarantee seems to cover 'failure' due
to rust. This isn't strictly failure. Anyway, I've sold the frame and the
buyer is hoping to collect tomorrow.

Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:03:57 UTC, "Staffbull"
wrote:


Grumps wrote:
Hi All

I am trying to dismantle a child's climbing frame. It is contructed
from metal tubes. It has six legs which are formed by inserting
short tubes into each other. It has been standing for 7 years, and
I cannot pull these pieces apart (well, I have managed two). Any
advice?
Ta.

Plusgas ( similar to WD40) seems to be the best for any penatrating
required, if its not painted or you dont care blowtorch and a few
slaps with a hammer, but be careful not to bend the pipes or theyll
be harder to come out.

Plusgas, as stated. But not WD40 - not really designed for that. WD40
is a water displacer, and Plusgas is a 'dismantling agent' or some
such.

Never heard of Plusgas, but it seems to be what I need. But I'm sure I can't
get any by 10:00 tomorrow!

Guy King wrote:
The message
from "Grumps" contains these words:

I am trying to dismantle a child's climbing frame. It is contructed
from metal tubes. It has six legs which are formed by inserting
short tubes into each other. It has been standing for 7 years, and I
cannot pull these pieces
apart (well, I have managed two). Any advice?

Graphited penetrating and easing oil. WD40 claims it's good, but it's
not a patch on the proper stuff.

Dribble it round the joint (invert the frame if needed so the oil can
trickle down into the crevices) and leave it a day.

Warming it will help, too. With concentric rings, the outer one will
always expand more than the inner as they're heated.

Question is, can I heat it without causing any discolouration? I've tried
boiling water, but not reached for the blowtorch yet. Actually, there are
plastic inserts in the end of the tubes, so a blowtorch may not be such a
good idea (although spare inserts would be supplied free).

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:32:38 UTC, "Grumps"
wrote:

Never heard of Plusgas, but it seems to be what I need. But I'm sure I can't
get any by 10:00 tomorrow!

Garages and car accessory shops...but you're supposed to leave it to
soak in for a bit, so I think you're out of time!

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Grumps wrote:
Guy King wrote:
The message
from "Grumps" contains these words:

I am trying to dismantle a child's climbing frame. It is contructed
from metal tubes. It has six legs which are formed by inserting
short tubes into each other. It has been standing for 7 years, and I
cannot pull these pieces
apart (well, I have managed two). Any advice?

Graphited penetrating and easing oil. WD40 claims it's good, but it's
not a patch on the proper stuff.

Dribble it round the joint (invert the frame if needed so the oil can
trickle down into the crevices) and leave it a day.

Warming it will help, too. With concentric rings, the outer one will
always expand more than the inner as they're heated.

Question is, can I heat it without causing any discolouration? I've tried
boiling water, but not reached for the blowtorch yet. Actually, there are
plastic inserts in the end of the tubes, so a blowtorch may not be such a
good idea (although spare inserts would be supplied free).

Then you dont want to be heating it, as you have to get things
seriously hot for that method to work. There would be no plastic or
paint remains bar charcoal. Best in this case would probably be to take
a lump of wood and go round the joint repeatedly, hammering it all
over, but not hard enough to dent it. This will slowly break up the
rust pieces and bonds.

I guess it cant be taken without this dismantling step.


NT

wrote:
Grumps wrote:
Guy King wrote:
The message
from "Grumps" contains these words:

I am trying to dismantle a child's climbing frame. It is contructed
from metal tubes. It has six legs which are formed by inserting
short tubes into each other. It has been standing for 7 years, and
I cannot pull these pieces
apart (well, I have managed two). Any advice?

Graphited penetrating and easing oil. WD40 claims it's good, but
it's not a patch on the proper stuff.

Dribble it round the joint (invert the frame if needed so the oil
can trickle down into the crevices) and leave it a day.

Warming it will help, too. With concentric rings, the outer one will
always expand more than the inner as they're heated.

Question is, can I heat it without causing any discolouration? I've
tried boiling water, but not reached for the blowtorch yet.
Actually, there are plastic inserts in the end of the tubes, so a
blowtorch may not be such a good idea (although spare inserts would
be supplied free).

Then you dont want to be heating it, as you have to get things
seriously hot for that method to work. There would be no plastic or
paint remains bar charcoal. Best in this case would probably be to
take a lump of wood and go round the joint repeatedly, hammering it
all over, but not hard enough to dent it. This will slowly break up
the rust pieces and bonds.

I guess it cant be taken without this dismantling step.

I avoided the heating method, but did try using my rubber mallet on it. It
didn't work.
But it didn't matter as the frame was taken away as it stood. Good old eBay!
Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

Bob Eager wrote:

Plusgas, as stated. But not WD40 - not really designed for that. WD40
is a water displacer, and Plusgas is a 'dismantling agent' or some
such.

WD40 is suitable, I've used it many a time for this application.

From their website;

"PENETRATES: WD-40 loosens rust-to-metal bonds and frees stuck, frozen or
rusted metal parts".

I seem to remember a Which test report that confirmed this

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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
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Bob Eager wrote:

Plusgas, as stated. But not WD40 - not really designed for that. WD40
is a water displacer, and Plusgas is a 'dismantling agent' or some
such.

WD40 is suitable, I've used it many a time for this application.

From their website;

"PENETRATES: WD-40 loosens rust-to-metal bonds and frees stuck, frozen or
rusted metal parts".

I seem to remember a Which test report that confirmed this

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I seem to recall hearing about a test in a car/motorcycle(?) magazine where
Plusgas won but WD40 was not far off, it has worked for me before.

I have been using recently the penetrating oil sold by Toolstation, cheap
and seems to work fine, though it hasn't had much of a challenge yet, just
some seized exhaust studs.

I have read some people saying diesel works as good as anything as a
penetrating agent. Dunno if it's true.

H

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from "The Medway Handyman" contains
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"PENETRATES: WD-40 loosens rust-to-metal bonds and frees stuck, frozen or
rusted metal parts".

Having used both for many years I'll stick with graphited penetrating
and easing oil.

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wrote in message ...

Whatever Which or the websites say, a proper penetrating oil such as Plus
Gas
is much more effective. However, often WD40 os nearer to hand, and does
work
after a fashion. For the difficult jobs, use the specialised product,
rather
than the general purpose 'does it all' spray.

Agreed, but I already carry upteen different chemicals, from silicone to
wood glue, so WD40 is a good all rounder for me.

I also recall that the Which report said Coca Cola actually worked and was
as good as the no name el cheapo brand.


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The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
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Agreed, but I already carry upteen different chemicals, from silicone to
wood glue, so WD40 is a good all rounder for me.

'Upteen' is of course a technical term used only in a small geographical
area around the Medway Towns.....................

Just in case anyone confused it with Umpteen..........
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:04:55 UTC, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

'Upteen' is of course a technical term used only in a small geographical
area around the Medway Towns.....................

Probably my wife's fault. She occasionally teaches English in a school
in Rochester (when she's not teaching computing).
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:54:16 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:


wrote in message ...

Whatever Which or the websites say, a proper penetrating oil such as Plus
Gas
is much more effective. However, often WD40 os nearer to hand, and does
work
after a fashion. For the difficult jobs, use the specialised product,
rather
than the general purpose 'does it all' spray.

Agreed, but I already carry upteen different chemicals, from silicone to
wood glue, so WD40 is a good all rounder for me.

I also recall that the Which report said Coca Cola actually worked and was
as good as the no name el cheapo brand.

WD40 is just a very expensive way of buying kerosine and a bit of
perfume.


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In message , The Medway
Handyman writes

wrote in message ...

Whatever Which or the websites say, a proper penetrating oil such as Plus
Gas
is much more effective. However, often WD40 os nearer to hand, and does
work
after a fashion. For the difficult jobs, use the specialised product,
rather
than the general purpose 'does it all' spray.

Agreed, but I already carry upteen different chemicals, from silicone to
wood glue, so WD40 is a good all rounder for me.

I also recall that the Which report said Coca Cola actually worked and was
as good as the no name el cheapo brand.

I presume that's because it contains weak phosphoric acid IIRC


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