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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
I'm planning to put a log cabin at the bottom of my gardern for use as
an office. Makes sense to provide it with all the services. I would like to have a proper soil pipe. Think the fall has to be at least 1 in 60. The problem is the nearest drain is only 400mm below the surface and the cabin would be 27m away. How do I get around this? And before it gets suggested I hate those maserator things. |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
garym999 wrote: I'm planning to put a log cabin at the bottom of my gardern for use as an office. Makes sense to provide it with all the services. I would like to have a proper soil pipe. Think the fall has to be at least 1 in 60. The problem is the nearest drain is only 400mm below the surface and the cabin would be 27m away. How do I get around this? And before it gets suggested I hate those maserator things. Build the cabin higher off the ground ? Build some type of ramp to get in that hides/protects the sewer pipe until it goes under the true ground level. No real other option without some type of pump, but when you say the drain is 400mm below surface, do you mean the invert of the drain, or some kind of grating ? Sorry if this insults you intelligence ! Simon. |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
garym999 wrote: I'm planning to put a log cabin at the bottom of my gardern for use as an office. Makes sense to provide it with all the services. I would like to have a proper soil pipe. Think the fall has to be at least 1 in 60. The problem is the nearest drain is only 400mm below the surface and the cabin would be 27m away. How do I get around this? And before it gets suggested I hate those maserator things. Dunster on the roof? ;-) |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
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from "garym999" contains these words: How do I get around this? Put the bog high up. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
I would like to have a proper soil pipe. Think the fall has to be at
least 1 in 60. The problem is the nearest drain is only 400mm below the surface and the cabin would be 27m away. How do I get around this? And before it gets suggested I hate those maserator things. Either: 1. increase the height 2. connect to the drain deeper (if it actually runs deeper) 3. connect to the drain closer (if it actually runs closer) 4. install a pump 5. install a klargester Whether you like macerators or not, the laws of gravity still apply! Christian. |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "garym999" saying something like: I would like to have a proper soil pipe. Think the fall has to be at least 1 in 60. The problem is the nearest drain is only 400mm below the surface and the cabin would be 27m away. How do I get around this? And before it gets suggested I hate those maserator things. Put your ****ter on a pedestal. -- Dave |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
"garym999" wrote in message oups.com... I'm planning to put a log cabin at the bottom of my gardern for use as an office. Makes sense to provide it with all the services. I would like to have a proper soil pipe. Think the fall has to be at least 1 in 60. The problem is the nearest drain is only 400mm below the surface and the cabin would be 27m away. How do I get around this? And before it gets suggested I hate those maserator things. Not sure what current regs say but ISTR that 1:80 is possible with a high standard of workmanship and a WC. My (old) Hunter guide says so. Might just work for you at 27m. Jim A |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
garym999 wrote:
I'm planning to put a log cabin at the bottom of my gardern for use as an office. Makes sense to provide it with all the services. I would like to have a proper soil pipe. Think the fall has to be at least 1 in 60. The problem is the nearest drain is only 400mm below the surface and the cabin would be 27m away. That's good enough probably. I think you can go to 1:100..consults building regs 2000.. Almost. for 100mm pipe as long as peak flow is 1 liter per second 1 in 80 is allowed. otherwise 1:40 is minimum for lower flow. I am sure a flushing toilet is more than 1 liter per second. |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
garym999 wrote:
I'm planning to put a log cabin at the bottom of my gardern for use as an office. Makes sense to provide it with all the services. I would like to have a proper soil pipe. Think the fall has to be at least 1 in 60. The problem is the nearest drain is only 400mm below the surface and the cabin would be 27m away. How do I get around this? And before it gets suggested I hate those maserator things. That's enough fall, turds are never going to climb uphill even if it is only 1:70, failing that, have you not thought about moving the 'log' cabin closer to the house? - it saves on plumbing, electrics and walking 27m in the ****ing down rain. |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:11:34 +0100, Owain
wrote: Christian McArdle wrote: 1. increase the height 2. connect to the drain deeper (if it actually runs deeper) 3. connect to the drain closer (if it actually runs closer) 4. install a pump 5. install a klargester 6. install a composting toilet I would suggest that most potential buyers of the house would sooner have their ears cut off. OTOH if the building is a "Temporary Building" a Porta Potti might be your salvation. DG |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
Owain wrote:
Christian McArdle wrote: 1. increase the height 2. connect to the drain deeper (if it actually runs deeper) 3. connect to the drain closer (if it actually runs closer) 4. install a pump 5. install a klargester 6. install a composting toilet 7. just go back to the house on the odd occasion -- http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK. http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL! http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers. http://Water-Rower.co.uk - Worlds best prices on the Worlds best Rower. |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
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from Grimly Curmudgeon contains these words: Put your ****ter on a pedestal. Vote him in /again/? -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
Chees for all the comments ;-)
Just wondered how the problem is normally overcome. I'm seem to recall that the builder commented that there was not much scope for decent fall into the main sewer and hence the knockon effect now that I'm looking at the cabin further from the house and the sewer. The cabin will be off the gound but I'd prefer the pipe to be burried. |
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Soil pipe, not enough fall?
garym999 wrote:
Chees for all the comments ;-) Just wondered how the problem is normally overcome. I'm seem to recall that the builder commented that there was not much scope for decent fall into the main sewer and hence the knockon effect now that I'm looking at the cabin further from the house and the sewer. The cabin will be off the gound but I'd prefer the pipe to be burried. We told you. 1 in 80 is acceptable and to regulations. According to your dimensions you will have one in 67 or so.. As long as the pipe is laid accurately you won;t have large turds stuck in your bog.Make sure you have a proper rodding point thats all. And if the pipe is near the surface I recommend a path laid over the gravel you bury it in. |
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