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I can get a bottle of 50% isopropyl alcohol here in the UK from a
dicount store for about 0.70 UK Pounds (approx 1 US dollar). I use it for general household cleaning. The bottle is 473 ml (1 US pint). The 50% is by volume. Alcohol is so heavily taxed in the UK and this is particularly cheap. I suspect that the price of 0.70 UKP many not cover the cost of the UK tax due on it. Does anyone know how much UK tax should be paid on 230 ml of isopropyl alcohol? |
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VAT only on retail sales at 17.5%. Consumer prices are usually quoted
VAT inclusive, whist trade prices are ex-vat (and will usually be labelled as such). If you are exporting it from the EU there is no vat to pay. Heavy alcohol taxation is on alcoholic beverages - I don't recommend drinking isopropanol. |
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Don W wrote: Alcohol is so heavily taxed in the UK and this is particularly cheap. No - spirits are subject to excise duty. Isopropyl alcohol isn't a spirit... Does anyone know how much UK tax should be paid on 230 ml of isopropyl alcohol? Customs and Excise probably do... You could visit their web site. This link may help - http://tinyurl.com/k8ur4 |
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Guy King wrote: The message .com from contains these words: I don't recommend drinking isopropanol. Now you tell me... Does your breath now smell of acetone? It might if I didn't mix it with Super Tennants. |
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Don W wrote:
I can get a bottle of 50% isopropyl alcohol here in the UK from a dicount store for about 0.70 UK Pounds (approx 1 US dollar). I use it for general household cleaning. The bottle is 473 ml (1 US pint). The 50% is by volume. Alcohol is so heavily taxed in the UK and this is particularly cheap. I suspect that the price of 0.70 UKP many not cover the cost of the UK tax due on it. Does anyone know how much UK tax should be paid on 230 ml of isopropyl alcohol? Only the dreaded VAT. No duty on IPA - 'cos no one drinks it. Had it been ethanol..... -- Ron Jones Process Safety & Development Specialist Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near missesa at http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert Einstein |
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Ron Jones wrote:
Only the dreaded VAT. No duty on IPA - 'cos no one drinks it. Had it been ethanol..... There is duty on Industrial Methylated Sprit though, and that is not exactly drinkable. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 11 Jul 2006, Ron wrote:
Don W wrote: I can get a bottle of 50% isopropyl alcohol here in the UK from a dicount store for about 0.70 UK Pounds (approx 1 US dollar). I use it for general household cleaning. The bottle is 473 ml (1 US pint). The 50% is by volume. Alcohol is so heavily taxed in the UK and this is particularly cheap. I suspect that the price of 0.70 UKP many not cover the cost of the UK tax due on it. Does anyone know how much UK tax should be paid on 230 ml of isopropyl alcohol? Only the dreaded VAT. No duty on IPA - 'cos no one drinks it. Had it been ethanol..... No duty? U pay about £4.50 for 500ml of isopropyl at my local chemist. I thought the high-ish price was mainly for duty. Am I being way over-charged? |
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Don W wrote:
On 11 Jul 2006, Ron wrote: Don W wrote: I can get a bottle of 50% isopropyl alcohol here in the UK from a dicount store for about 0.70 UK Pounds (approx 1 US dollar). I use it for general household cleaning. The bottle is 473 ml (1 US pint). The 50% is by volume. Alcohol is so heavily taxed in the UK and this is particularly cheap. I suspect that the price of 0.70 UKP many not cover the cost of the UK tax due on it. Does anyone know how much UK tax should be paid on 230 ml of isopropyl alcohol? Only the dreaded VAT. No duty on IPA - 'cos no one drinks it. Had it been ethanol..... No duty? U pay about £4.50 for 500ml of isopropyl at my local chemist. I thought the high-ish price was mainly for duty. Am I being way over-charged? Bulk cost per tonne is £380 ie 38p per litre http://ed.icheme.org/costchem.html Which does look very attractive compared to petrol prices... Still, methanol is 13p per litre. Dirk |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 01:13:12 +0100,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote in : Don W wrote: On 11 Jul 2006, Ron wrote: Don W wrote: I can get a bottle of 50% isopropyl alcohol here in the UK from a dicount store for about 0.70 UK Pounds (approx 1 US dollar). I use it for general household cleaning. The bottle is 473 ml (1 US pint). The 50% is by volume. Alcohol is so heavily taxed in the UK and this is particularly cheap. I suspect that the price of 0.70 UKP many not cover the cost of the UK tax due on it. Does anyone know how much UK tax should be paid on 230 ml of isopropyl alcohol? Only the dreaded VAT. No duty on IPA - 'cos no one drinks it. Had it been ethanol..... No duty? U pay about £4.50 for 500ml of isopropyl at my local chemist. I thought the high-ish price was mainly for duty. Am I being way over-charged? Bulk cost per tonne is £380 ie 38p per litre http://ed.icheme.org/costchem.html Actually, since its specific density is ~0.79, that's more like 30p/litre. http://www.chemicalland21.com/petroc...SOPROPANOL.htm Which does look very attractive compared to petrol prices... Still, methanol is 13p per litre. Similar density, so closer to 10p. Admittedly, those prices are from a 2002 survey, so probably a bit out of date now, especially where oil-derived chemicals are concerned. -- Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration, Brunel University. ] Room 40-1-B12, CERN KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty". |
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Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 01:13:12 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote in : Don W wrote: On 11 Jul 2006, Ron wrote: Don W wrote: I can get a bottle of 50% isopropyl alcohol here in the UK from a dicount store for about 0.70 UK Pounds (approx 1 US dollar). I use it for general household cleaning. The bottle is 473 ml (1 US pint). The 50% is by volume. Alcohol is so heavily taxed in the UK and this is particularly cheap. I suspect that the price of 0.70 UKP many not cover the cost of the UK tax due on it. Does anyone know how much UK tax should be paid on 230 ml of isopropyl alcohol? Only the dreaded VAT. No duty on IPA - 'cos no one drinks it. Had it been ethanol..... No duty? U pay about £4.50 for 500ml of isopropyl at my local chemist. I thought the high-ish price was mainly for duty. Am I being way over-charged? Bulk cost per tonne is £380 ie 38p per litre http://ed.icheme.org/costchem.html Actually, since its specific density is ~0.79, that's more like 30p/litre. http://www.chemicalland21.com/petroc...SOPROPANOL.htm Which does look very attractive compared to petrol prices... Still, methanol is 13p per litre. Similar density, so closer to 10p. Admittedly, those prices are from a 2002 survey, so probably a bit out of date now, especially where oil-derived chemicals are concerned. Double it and it still looks good. Dirk |
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On 11 Jul 2006 09:12:46 -0700, " wrote:
VAT only on retail sales at 17.5%. GASP that's a STEEP sales tax... do you pay income tax also? what about a regional/provisional sales or income taxes? |
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beav wrote:
On 11 Jul 2006 09:12:46 -0700, " wrote: VAT only on retail sales at 17.5%. GASP that's a STEEP sales tax... do you pay income tax also? Yes, and National Insurance, which is another type of income tax. what about a regional/provisional sales or income taxes? No. Health care costs are a lot cheaper than in America though. |
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Don W wrote:
On 11 Jul 2006, Ron wrote: Don W wrote: I can get a bottle of 50% isopropyl alcohol here in the UK from a dicount store for about 0.70 UK Pounds (approx 1 US dollar). I use it for general household cleaning. The bottle is 473 ml (1 US pint). The 50% is by volume. Alcohol is so heavily taxed in the UK and this is particularly cheap. I suspect that the price of 0.70 UKP many not cover the cost of the UK tax due on it. Does anyone know how much UK tax should be paid on 230 ml of isopropyl alcohol? Only the dreaded VAT. No duty on IPA - 'cos no one drinks it. Had it been ethanol..... No duty? U pay about £4.50 for 500ml of isopropyl at my local chemist. I thought the high-ish price was mainly for duty. Am I being way over-charged? You are paying for someone(s) to bottle it, store it in bottles, pack it, distribute it, allow for breakage and clean up - now you know how the farmers feel with their milk prices... Off hand, I would estimate that the buying price is around 150-200GBP for a 200 litre drum - but you would not be able (as a private person) to buy a drum in the UK. -- Ron Jones Process Safety & Development Specialist Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near misses at http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert Einstein |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:59:38 +0100, Jonathan Bryce jonathan@localhost
wrote: |beav wrote: | | On 11 Jul 2006 09:12:46 -0700, " wrote: | |VAT only on retail sales at 17.5%. | | GASP that's a STEEP sales tax... do you pay income tax also? | |Yes, and National Insurance, which is another type of income tax. | | what about a regional/provisional sales or income taxes? | |No. | | |Health care costs are a lot cheaper than in America though. Free at the point of need. Good old NHS :-) -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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Dave Fawthrop wrote:
|Health care costs are a lot cheaper than in America though. Free at the point of need. Good old NHS :-) I wouldn't use the word free when there are prescription charges, optician charges and dentist charges, but certainly a lot cheaper. |
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Jonathan Bryce wrote:
Dave Fawthrop wrote: Health care costs are a lot cheaper than in America though. Free at the point of need. Good old NHS :-) I wouldn't use the word free when there are prescription charges, optician charges and dentist charges, but certainly a lot cheaper. Only if you can find a dentist that's not private... -- Ron Jones Process Safety & Development Specialist Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near missesa at http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert Einstein |
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Dave Fawthrop wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:59:38 +0100, Jonathan Bryce jonathan@localhost wrote: | | |Health care costs are a lot cheaper than in America though. Free at the point of need. only after you've spent 45mins waiting for a place in the hospital car park for a parking spot & then forked out a tenner or more for the parking fee. Not to mention the instant clampers at the surgery who'll get you even if its a dire emergency. nasty stealth tax Good old NHS :-) & economics of a mad house. Means hospital medical staff (££££££ per hour) & everyone else waste time due to late arrival of patients, missed appontments, etc etc stupid old NHS :-(( |
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In message . com,
ironer writes Dave Fawthrop wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:59:38 +0100, Jonathan Bryce jonathan@localhost wrote: | | |Health care costs are a lot cheaper than in America though. Free at the point of need. only after you've spent 45mins waiting for a place in the hospital car park for a parking spot & then forked out a tenner or more for the parking fee. What annoys me is that here it's pay and display, where you pay in advance based on how long you're going to be, how the hell do I know how long the wait's going to be for A&E, and how long it's going to take after that? I just end up buying 24hrs each time. -- bof at bof dot me dot uk |
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Ron Jones wrote:
Only if you can find a dentist that's not private... Shop around. There's bound to be an NHS practice not too far away. -- http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK. http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL! http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers. http://Water-Rower.co.uk - Worlds best prices on the Worlds best Rower. |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:23:36 +0100, bof
wrote: In message . com, ironer writes Dave Fawthrop wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:59:38 +0100, Jonathan Bryce jonathan@localhost wrote: | | |Health care costs are a lot cheaper than in America though. Free at the point of need. only after you've spent 45mins waiting for a place in the hospital car park for a parking spot & then forked out a tenner or more for the parking fee. What annoys me is that here it's pay and display, where you pay in advance based on how long you're going to be, how the hell do I know how long the wait's going to be for A&E, and how long it's going to take after that? I just end up buying 24hrs each time. wow! i had no idea... |
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from Derek ^ contains these words: There's bound to be an NHS practice not too far away. Better to fly to Poland or Hungary. The patients don't queue round the block in their thousands (overnight even) for nothing you know. Though round here in Telford there were places at NHS dentists going begging a couple of months ago. We had no trouble when we moved here, and spaces are still available. Despite this, people in Telford were complaining to the papers about the lack of NHS dentists - apparently they were only ringing the first few on the list and stopping before getting to those with spaces, claming they were all full. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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"Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ;¬)" wrote:
Ron Jones wrote: Only if you can find a dentist that's not private... Shop around. There's bound to be an NHS practice not too far away. You don't live in North Lancs / South Cumbria. "Rare as hen's teeth", doesn't even start to describe it. -- Ron Jones Process Safety & Development Specialist Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near missesa at http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert Einstein |
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John Weston wrote:
Don W wrote: it been ethanol..... No duty? U pay about £4.50 for 500ml of isopropyl at my local chemist. I thought the high-ish price was mainly for duty. Am I being way over-charged? Under £1 a litre, inc VAT, for cleaning strength, in 5L amounts from: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp? SKU=SAIPA5L&N=411 http://makeashorterlink.com/?P21F3266D No other taxes on IPA (Unless that is India Pale Ale :-)) ????? 47.65GBP for 5L is not 1 pound/litre, or I am gong mad..... -- Ron Jones Process Safety & Development Specialist Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near missesa at http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert Einstein |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:59:03 +0100, Ron Jones wrote
(in article ): "Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ;¬)" wrote: Ron Jones wrote: Only if you can find a dentist that's not private... Shop around. There's bound to be an NHS practice not too far away. You don't live in North Lancs / South Cumbria. "Rare as hen's teeth", doesn't even start to describe it. Perfect. Now if only the GPs would follow the example of the dentists... |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:10:32 +0100, John Weston
wrote: Under £1 a litre, inc VAT, for cleaning strength, in 5L amounts from: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp? SKU=SAIPA5L&N=411 http://makeashorterlink.com/?P21F3266D Have you been sniffing somnething? £47.65 including VAT makes it a bit more than a quid a litre! -- |
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Matt wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:10:32 +0100, John Weston wrote: Under £1 a litre, inc VAT, for cleaning strength, in 5L amounts from: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp? SKU=SAIPA5L&N=411 http://makeashorterlink.com/?P21F3266D Have you been sniffing somnething? £47.65 including VAT makes it a bit more than a quid a litre! Obviously sniffing the isopropanol... ;-) -- Ron Jones Process Safety & Development Specialist Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near missesa at http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert Einstein |
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Derek ^ typed
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:31:18 GMT, beav wrote: What annoys me is that here it's pay and display, where you pay in advance based on how long you're going to be, how the hell do I know how long the wait's going to be for A&E, and how long it's going to take after that? I just end up buying 24hrs each time. wow! i had no idea... Just announced in Leeds last week £12 to park at the Leeds General Infirmary, or St James's. Most I've been charged was £18.00 at Southampton General. St Georges, Tooting wanted to charge me £8.00 for 2 mins over 4 hours. Customers queueing tp pay at the pay station in Russel's Hall (Wolverhampton) complaining like buggery, cos it's gone up 500% in one year, at having to pay £2.50 per half day to visit sick relatives in hospital. It's about half the Old Age Pension, just in hospital car parking. Free at the point of use Eh? DG Have you been following me round the country? I have worked in Russell's Hall, Dudley, LGI Leeds, St George's, Tooting and been to study sessions at Southampton General... -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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