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Hot water pump wont stop - any ideas
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I have had a problem with my hot water pump for the last few weeks - it just wont cut out when the hot water or central heating timer switches off. The motorised valve seems to be working OK switches between hot water and heating as normal and both the radiators and hot tank are being heated. A few times last week I was able to switch off the pump by manually moving the lever on the motorised valve and letting it spring back, but that action dosent work at all now and I cant get the pump to turn off, except at the mains. Some information about my system: it is a closed system in a 5 year old house, the heating and hot water can operate seperately or together and all the radiators are on the same zone. It looks to have two valves in the airing cupboard one a switched valve with a removable actuator and the other a (Honeywell) valve with a galvanised cover. My initial idea was that the actuator on the switched valva was faulty, but now I am not so sure. I can replace this fairly easily, and if it is this I dont want to call out a plumber and have to pay him for the privilage. any ideas on what might be wrong would be much appreciated Cheers Bole |
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Bole wrote: Hello I have had a problem with my hot water pump for the last few weeks - it just wont cut out when the hot water or central heating timer switches off. The motorised valve seems to be working OK switches between hot water and heating as normal and both the radiators and hot tank are being heated. A few times last week I was able to switch off the pump by manually moving the lever on the motorised valve and letting it spring back, but that action dosent work at all now and I cant get the pump to turn off, except at the mains. Some information about my system: it is a closed system in a 5 year old house, the heating and hot water can operate seperately or together and all the radiators are on the same zone. It looks to have two valves in the airing cupboard one a switched valve with a removable actuator and the other a (Honeywell) valve with a galvanised cover. My initial idea was that the actuator on the switched valva was faulty, but now I am not so sure. I can replace this fairly easily, and if it is this I dont want to call out a plumber and have to pay him for the privilage. any ideas on what might be wrong would be much appreciated Cheers Bole |
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:10:07 -0700, Bole wrote:
Hello I have had a problem with my hot water pump for the last few weeks - it just wont cut out when the hot water or central heating timer switches off. The motorised valve seems to be working OK switches between hot water and heating as normal and both the radiators and hot tank are being heated. A few times last week I was able to switch off the pump by manually moving the lever on the motorised valve and letting it spring back, but that action dosent work at all now and I cant get the pump to turn off, except at the mains. Some information about my system: it is a closed system in a 5 year old house, the heating and hot water can operate seperately or together and all the radiators are on the same zone. It looks to have two valves in the airing cupboard one a switched valve with a removable actuator and the other a (Honeywell) valve with a galvanised cover. My initial idea was that the actuator on the switched valva was faulty, but now I am not so sure. I can replace this fairly easily, and if it is this I dont want to call out a plumber and have to pay him for the privilage. any ideas on what might be wrong would be much appreciated Cheers Bole Sounds like the lever is bent (or some other trouble) so that after the valve has correctly opened it does not shut of it's own accord. The honeywell valves switch on at the end of the travel (beyond the manual latching position) other make(s) switch on before the manual latching position. You might have a sticking valve on the plumbing side. You might have a defective valve actuator. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards |
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writes Hello I have had a problem with my hot water pump for the last few weeks - it just wont cut out when the hot water or central heating timer switches off. Some information about my system: The make and model of boiler would be up there with the rest of useful things you could mention e.g. pump not switching off is a common failure mode of the Baxi Solo 2 or 3 pcb -- geoff |
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raden wrote: In message .com, Bole writes Hello I have had a problem with my hot water pump for the last few weeks - it just wont cut out when the hot water or central heating timer switches off. Some information about my system: The make and model of boiler would be up there with the rest of useful things you could mention e.g. pump not switching off is a common failure mode of the Baxi Solo 2 or 3 pcb -- geoff Thanks the boiler is an Ideal Classic (wall hung boiler) FF230 and the motorised valve is a Drayton ZA5/679-2 Zone Valve Bole |
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Ed Sirett wrote:
Sounds like the lever is bent (or some other trouble) so that after the valve has correctly opened it does not shut of it's own accord. The honeywell valves switch on at the end of the travel (beyond the manual latching position) other make(s) switch on before the manual latching position. You might have a sticking valve on the plumbing side. You might have a defective valve actuator. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards Thanks the motorised valve is a Drayton ZA5/679-2 Zone Valve do these valves/actuators often have problems? cheers Bole |
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writes raden wrote: In message .com, Bole writes Hello I have had a problem with my hot water pump for the last few weeks - it just wont cut out when the hot water or central heating timer switches off. Some information about my system: The make and model of boiler would be up there with the rest of useful things you could mention e.g. pump not switching off is a common failure mode of the Baxi Solo 2 or 3 pcb -- geoff Thanks the boiler is an Ideal Classic (wall hung boiler) FF230 and the motorised valve is a Drayton ZA5/679-2 Zone Valve Bole Then Ed's advice should be all you need, the pcb has no control over the pump -- geoff |
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Bole wrote:
Ed Sirett wrote: Sounds like the lever is bent (or some other trouble) so that after the valve has correctly opened it does not shut of it's own accord. The honeywell valves switch on at the end of the travel (beyond the manual latching position) other make(s) switch on before the manual latching position. You might have a sticking valve on the plumbing side. You might have a defective valve actuator. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards Thanks the motorised valve is a Drayton ZA5/679-2 Zone Valve do these valves/actuators often have problems? I had one (honeywell) stick on my UFH...boy did the house get hot..exactly same sypmtoms as yours..manual working sorted it a few times. then it didn't. Replaced the whole head..not expensive. cheers Bole |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: Bole wrote: Ed Sirett wrote: Sounds like the lever is bent (or some other trouble) so that after the valve has correctly opened it does not shut of it's own accord. The honeywell valves switch on at the end of the travel (beyond the manual latching position) other make(s) switch on before the manual latching position. You might have a sticking valve on the plumbing side. You might have a defective valve actuator. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards Thanks the motorised valve is a Drayton ZA5/679-2 Zone Valve do these valves/actuators often have problems? I had one (honeywell) stick on my UFH...boy did the house get hot..exactly same sypmtoms as yours..manual working sorted it a few times. then it didn't. Replaced the whole head..not expensive. cheers Bole Thanks to all for your help, the gneral consensus seem to be the motorised valve or the actuator. I will order both and replace the actuator first, if that dosent work I will change the valve as well, hopefully that will solve the problem. Cheers Bole |
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Just an update to close this thread. I have now replaced the detachable
actuator (£10 from e-bay!) and the problem has been solved. I didnt need to replace the 2-way valve. Thanks to all who gave their advice on this Cheers Bole Bole wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: Bole wrote: Ed Sirett wrote: Sounds like the lever is bent (or some other trouble) so that after the valve has correctly opened it does not shut of it's own accord. The honeywell valves switch on at the end of the travel (beyond the manual latching position) other make(s) switch on before the manual latching position. You might have a sticking valve on the plumbing side. You might have a defective valve actuator. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards Thanks the motorised valve is a Drayton ZA5/679-2 Zone Valve do these valves/actuators often have problems? I had one (honeywell) stick on my UFH...boy did the house get hot..exactly same sypmtoms as yours..manual working sorted it a few times. then it didn't. Replaced the whole head..not expensive. cheers Bole Thanks to all for your help, the gneral consensus seem to be the motorised valve or the actuator. I will order both and replace the actuator first, if that dosent work I will change the valve as well, hopefully that will solve the problem. Cheers Bole |
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