Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

The cable would cross the mains water supply and drains at right angles
- any suggestions that my get me off the hook would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent
my having to turn the request down flat.

The cable would cross the mains water supply and drains at right
angles - any suggestions that my get me off the hook would be greatly
appreciated.

Just tell them that you mentioned it to your solicitor when discussing
something else and that he advised against it.

Peter Crosland

wrote in message
ups.com...
Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

The cable would cross the mains water supply and drains at right angles
- any suggestions that my get me off the hook would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks


====================
Make it too much trouble for THEM.

Look he http://www.wayleave.co.uk/wayleave-advice.htm

Cic.

On 19 Jun 2006 00:54:36 -0700, had this to
say:

Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

The cable would cross the mains water supply and drains at right angles
- any suggestions that my get me off the hook would be greatly
appreciated.

Remind then that it'll cost them a fortune to replace your drive
if/when their cable has to be replaced.

--
Frank Erskine

wrote:
Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

The cable would cross the mains water supply and drains at right angles
- any suggestions that my get me off the hook would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks


The answer, in a nutshell, is that no matter how well you get on with
them, they or you might wish to sell their/your house, and the resultant
legal confusion would be in neither of your best interests. The legal
fees to actually ratify such an arrangement to the point where it was
easy to make the sale, would exceed the cost of routing the cable
entirely through their property.

Cicero wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

The cable would cross the mains water supply and drains at right angles
- any suggestions that my get me off the hook would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks


====================
Make it too much trouble for THEM.

Look he http://www.wayleave.co.uk/wayleave-advice.htm

Cic.

Gulp!

After reading that I wouldn't let my own mother put a cable across my
proerty.

Thanks a lot.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
wrote:
Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

The cable would cross the mains water supply and drains at right angles
- any suggestions that my get me off the hook would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks


The answer, in a nutshell, is that no matter how well you get on with
them, they or you might wish to sell their/your house, and the resultant
legal confusion would be in neither of your best interests. The legal
fees to actually ratify such an arrangement to the point where it was
easy to make the sale, would exceed the cost of routing the cable
entirely through their property.

Excellent points - thanks

On 19 Jun 2006 00:54:36 -0700, wrote:

Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

Don't let them! You'll be storing up trouble for yourself!

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

Err, not really any regs you can quote that would stop it outright, but
some things you can bring up with them which should dissuade them.

1) You require them to enter into an agreement, to be drawn up by your
solicitor, which will fully indemnify you, and which will also compensate
you on an ongoing basis for allowing them to have the cable on your
property.

2) You require them to have an adequate insurance against any possible
damage arising to your property as a result of a fault on their cable.

3) They would be responsible for any making good in the event that they
need at any time in the future acees onto your land for maintenance
purposes.

4) The electrical installation must be carried fully in accordance with the
current edition of BS7671 (The IEE Wiring Regs).

5) You require at their expense a check by an appropriate person (a
competent electrical contractor) every 5 years to ensure the installation
that crosses your property is in a safe condition.

6) Everything to be at their expense!

You need to play things nice and friendly, like 'Well, yes, I suppose we
could, but have you thought about the legal implications?'

--
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

On 19 Jun 2006 03:25:44 -0700, wrote:

Cicero wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

The cable would cross the mains water supply and drains at right angles
- any suggestions that my get me off the hook would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks


====================
Make it too much trouble for THEM.

Look he http://www.wayleave.co.uk/wayleave-advice.htm

Cic.

Gulp!

After reading that I wouldn't let my own mother put a cable across my
proerty.

Thanks a lot.

Who there, wayleave.co.uk have to say is irrelevant insofar as any
arrangement between two individuals. Their business is built on the
Electricity Act, 1989.

As a more general note, it's also worth mentioning that wayleave.co.uk is
just a tad sparing with the facts. Naturally they have a vested interest to
attract business their way, but The Electricity Act 1989 contains one very
important proviso, necessary wayleaves won't be entertained where domestic
dwellings are concerned!

--
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

In article , The Wanderer
writes
On 19 Jun 2006 00:54:36 -0700, wrote:

Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

Don't let them! You'll be storing up trouble for yourself!

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

Err, not really any regs you can quote that would stop it outright, but
some things you can bring up with them which should dissuade them.

1) You require them to enter into an agreement, to be drawn up by your
solicitor, which will fully indemnify you, and which will also compensate
you on an ongoing basis for allowing them to have the cable on your
property.

2) You require them to have an adequate insurance against any possible
damage arising to your property as a result of a fault on their cable.

3) They would be responsible for any making good in the event that they
need at any time in the future acees onto your land for maintenance
purposes.

4) The electrical installation must be carried fully in accordance with the
current edition of BS7671 (The IEE Wiring Regs).

5) You require at their expense a check by an appropriate person (a
competent electrical contractor) every 5 years to ensure the installation
that crosses your property is in a safe condition.

6) Everything to be at their expense!

You need to play things nice and friendly, like 'Well, yes, I suppose we
could, but have you thought about the legal implications?'


Humm... Out of inane curiosity.. just how far down would you have to go i.e.
in a tunnel say before the wayleave regs no longer applied???......
--
Tony Sayer

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:12:34 +0100, The Wanderer wrote:

On 19 Jun 2006 03:25:44 -0700, wrote:

Cicero wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

The cable would cross the mains water supply and drains at right angles
- any suggestions that my get me off the hook would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks


====================
Make it too much trouble for THEM.

Look he http://www.wayleave.co.uk/wayleave-advice.htm

Cic.

Gulp!

After reading that I wouldn't let my own mother put a cable across my
proerty.

Thanks a lot.

Who there, wayleave.co.uk have to say is irrelevant insofar as any
arrangement between two individuals. Their business is built on the
Electricity Act, 1989.

Hmm, brain fart there.....

Should have read:

Whoa there, whatever wayleave.co.uk have to say.....


--
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:14:52 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , The Wanderer
writes
On 19 Jun 2006 00:54:36 -0700, wrote:

Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

Don't let them! You'll be storing up trouble for yourself!

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

Err, not really any regs you can quote that would stop it outright, but
some things you can bring up with them which should dissuade them.

1) You require them to enter into an agreement, to be drawn up by your
solicitor, which will fully indemnify you, and which will also compensate
you on an ongoing basis for allowing them to have the cable on your
property.

2) You require them to have an adequate insurance against any possible
damage arising to your property as a result of a fault on their cable.

3) They would be responsible for any making good in the event that they
need at any time in the future acees onto your land for maintenance
purposes.

4) The electrical installation must be carried fully in accordance with the
current edition of BS7671 (The IEE Wiring Regs).

5) You require at their expense a check by an appropriate person (a
competent electrical contractor) every 5 years to ensure the installation
that crosses your property is in a safe condition.

6) Everything to be at their expense!

You need to play things nice and friendly, like 'Well, yes, I suppose we
could, but have you thought about the legal implications?'


Humm... Out of inane curiosity.. just how far down would you have to go i.e.
in a tunnel say before the wayleave regs no longer applied???......

See my comments elsewhere in this thread.

--
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

The Wanderer wrote:
On 19 Jun 2006 00:54:36 -0700, wrote:

Good morning,

I'm looking for a way out on this one.

We have recently acquired what seem to be very nice new neighbours and
they have asked if they can take a power cable beneath our drive to a
part of their garden.

Don't let them! You'll be storing up trouble for yourself!

I have no intention of allowing them to do so (for a variety of
reasons) but would like to quote some regulation which would prevent my
having to turn the request down flat.

Err, not really any regs you can quote that would stop it outright, but
some things you can bring up with them which should dissuade them.

1) You require them to enter into an agreement, to be drawn up by your
solicitor, which will fully indemnify you, and which will also compensate
you on an ongoing basis for allowing them to have the cable on your
property.

2) You require them to have an adequate insurance against any possible
damage arising to your property as a result of a fault on their cable.

3) They would be responsible for any making good in the event that they
need at any time in the future acees onto your land for maintenance
purposes.

4) The electrical installation must be carried fully in accordance with the
current edition of BS7671 (The IEE Wiring Regs).

5) You require at their expense a check by an appropriate person (a
competent electrical contractor) every 5 years to ensure the installation
that crosses your property is in a safe condition.

6) Everything to be at their expense!

You need to play things nice and friendly, like 'Well, yes, I suppose we
could, but have you thought about the legal implications?'

--
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net