Just a quick question, i'm intrested in installing LCD deck lights for
my decking and they come with a 12v pack transformer etc and Junction
box.

Now can this be wired into the lighting circuit i already have on my
deck or will it need to be plugged in as pretty sure the picture i seen
had a plug on the end.

this is some info they had on their website.

Each Pack contains the following:

2 x LED Fittings, each fitting is pre-wired with 5M Cable

1 x 12V Plug In Transformer prewired with 15M Cable

1 x 4 Way Junction Box - IP44


I know about Part P but just trying to work out options, as dont have
socket mains on the decking.

Thank You

Could i get around the plug in method by changing the transfromer etc,
any ideas be great

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htmark98 wrote:

Just a quick question, i'm intrested in installing LCD deck lights for
my decking and they come with a 12v pack transformer etc and Junction
box.

Now can this be wired into the lighting circuit i already have on my
deck or will it need to be plugged in as pretty sure the picture i
seen had a plug on the end.

this is some info they had on their website.

Each Pack contains the following:

2 x LED Fittings, each fitting is pre-wired with 5M Cable

1 x 12V Plug In Transformer prewired with 15M Cable

1 x 4 Way Junction Box - IP44


I know about Part P but just trying to work out options, as dont have
socket mains on the decking.

Thank You

Could i get around the plug in method by changing the transfromer etc,
any ideas be great

You can almost certainly connect it to a lighting circuit as long as the
circuit has some spare capacity. The one vital missing bit of information is
how much mains current does the transformer draw. [Or how many watts of
power does it use, if this is easier to find?]
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Roger
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On 23 May 2006 11:43:36 -0700 someone who may be "htmark98"
wrote this:-

Each Pack contains the following:

2 x LED Fittings, each fitting is pre-wired with 5M Cable

1 x 12V Plug In Transformer prewired with 15M Cable

If it is a transformer with a plug moulded onto the end then this
needs to be plugged in somewhere. You could always replace the
transformer with a suitable one you can wire in, though this will
make things more expensive.

If the transformer has a mains cable with a plug on the end then you
can cut this off (dispose of it properly to avoid children finding
it and sticking it in a socket) and wire it into a suitable circuit.


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David Hansen, Edinburgh
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Thanks for the help so far guys.

Here is a picture of it on the website

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3349/7011box6wg.jpg

have loads spare on the circuit as only 2 lights on a 6amp mcb.

All i can find is it's a 12v transformer. Like i said havent got access
to sockets outside and would like these to run with my decking post
lights if i can and control them from outside.

htmark98 wrote:
Just a quick question, i'm intrested in installing LCD deck lights for
my decking and they come with a 12v pack transformer etc and Junction
box.

Now can this be wired into the lighting circuit i already have on my
deck or will it need to be plugged in as pretty sure the picture i seen
had a plug on the end.

this is some info they had on their website.

Each Pack contains the following:

2 x LED Fittings, each fitting is pre-wired with 5M Cable

1 x 12V Plug In Transformer prewired with 15M Cable

1 x 4 Way Junction Box - IP44


I know about Part P but just trying to work out options, as dont have
socket mains on the decking.

Thank You

Could i get around the plug in method by changing the transfromer etc,
any ideas be great

Probabaly better off getting a new transformer and wiring it in, but in
principle of course you can hard wire it to the lighting circuit.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
htmark98 wrote:

Thanks for the help so far guys.

Here is a picture of it on the website

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3349/7011box6wg.jpg

have loads spare on the circuit as only 2 lights on a 6amp mcb.

All i can find is it's a 12v transformer. Like i said havent got
access to sockets outside and would like these to run with my decking
post lights if i can and control them from outside.

The transformer looks like the type designed to plug into a 13A socket. Does
it have 3 pins on the back like a 13A plug? If so, it should really be
plugged into a power outlet. You could, of course, wire a 13A trailing
socket into a lighting circuit, and plug it into that - but that would be
potentially unsafe, and probably illegal - because some fool might
subsequently plug an electric kettle into it. If you *really* want to do
that, tape it up so that it can't be unplugged, and hide it away in the
roofspace or somewhere.

The alternative is to buy a different transformer which has a mains lead
rather than a moulded plug on it.

Have you actually bought it? There is some inf on the transformer (which I
can't read from the image you posted) which almost certainly specifies the
input and output voltages and currents. What does it say?
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Roger
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Hi Roger no havent bought it yet.

Have asked them the voltages and getting back to me.

How much would a new transformer cost me?

Thanks for your help Mark

Hi
Here is the reply i got


Some kits have different transformers in.

All transformers are 230-240V Input
All are 12V Output some are 200mA and some are 1250mA, pretty much what
you
do with them is totally upto you, but, for warranty purposes we can
only say
4 per transformer.
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I was looking at adding 5 lights per run but cannot do that it seams
Thanks
Mark

In article .com,
htmark98 wrote:
Now can this be wired into the lighting circuit i already have on my
deck or will it need to be plugged in as pretty sure the picture i seen
had a plug on the end.

this is some info they had on their website.

Each Pack contains the following:

2 x LED Fittings, each fitting is pre-wired with 5M Cable

1 x 12V Plug In Transformer prewired with 15M Cable

1 x 4 Way Junction Box - IP44

Best to see if the kit can be swopped for one with a 'hard wired' rather
than plug in transformer.

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
htmark98 wrote:

Hi Roger no havent bought it yet.

Have asked them the voltages and getting back to me.

How much would a new transformer cost me?


Only a few quid from Maplins. But you'd need to know the spec, in order to
buy an appropriate one.
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Roger
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
htmark98 wrote:

Hi
Here is the reply i got


Some kits have different transformers in.

All transformers are 230-240V Input
All are 12V Output some are 200mA and some are 1250mA, pretty much
what you
do with them is totally upto you, but, for warranty purposes we can
only say
4 per transformer.
-----
I was looking at adding 5 lights per run but cannot do that it seams
Thanks
Mark


Assuming that the 200 and 1250mA are the currents at 12v, the mains current
required will be almost negligible.

How much current does each lamp require?

If you're going to buy a different transformer, getting one with an output
of 2A (2000mA) or more should enable you to run all five lamps off it.
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Roger
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"Roger Mills" wrote:

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
htmark98 wrote:

Thanks for the help so far guys.

Here is a picture of it on the website

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3349/7011box6wg.jpg

have loads spare on the circuit as only 2 lights on a 6amp mcb.

All i can find is it's a 12v transformer. Like i said havent got
access to sockets outside and would like these to run with my decking
post lights if i can and control them from outside.

The transformer looks like the type designed to plug into a 13A socket. Does
it have 3 pins on the back like a 13A plug? If so, it should really be
plugged into a power outlet. You could, of course, wire a 13A trailing
socket into a lighting circuit, and plug it into that - but that would be
potentially unsafe, and probably illegal - because some fool might
subsequently plug an electric kettle into it. If you *really* want to do
that, tape it up so that it can't be unplugged, and hide it away in the
roofspace or somewhere.

The alternative is to buy a different transformer which has a mains lead
rather than a moulded plug on it.

Don't forget that if you are planning to have the transformer outdoor
it must be waterproof to an appropriate degree. The same applies to
any sockets you install outside - assuming you don't want to be
resetting the RCD every time there's a light shower.

An alternative is to plug the transformer into a trailing cable socket
and then enclose both of them in a suitable box.

John
--
John White,
Electrical Contractor