I've redecorated a room and thrown out an old electric fire that was
against the wall. The base of the fire was thick wood and the skirting
board had been removed so the fire could press flush to the wall. So I'm
left with about a metre of missing skirting board with a zig-zag cutout
at each end where the fire used to be.

I walked around B&Q and had a look at their skirting but none were the
same. I've had a look on the web and I think what I have is "Chamfered
Bullnosed Skirting" according to
http://www.haymanlimited.co.uk/joine...ducts.cfm?id=2

It is 15-17mm thick (hard to tell exactly because of the paint) 95mm
high. The chamfer starts 70mm from the bottom, and the horizontal bit at
the top is 5-6mm.

Looking around the house I see there are other places where there are
bits of missing skirting board and I'm considering whether it's worth
the time and effort doing the job myself. Especially if it's going to
involve fiddly sizes and if the skirting is not available off the shelf.

However woodwork is not something I've done much off and I'm not sure
where to start. Leafing through my DIY books I see mentions of mitres
and tenon saws and such. Although my books mention skirting boards, they
only mention it from the point of view of replacement, whereas I'm
wondering how I'd cut a bit of wood to create the replacement in the
first place. Is that what a router does? Since there are no complicated
curvy bits to the chamfer (I even thought of using my jigsaw at an angle
and putting a block of wood in the workbench) I'm thinking I might give
it a go.

On the other hand, if I could find a local timber merchant (just moved
into the area so still finding the local outlets) and told them the
dimensions would they be likely to cut a piece to size?

Still not sure how I'm going to proceed with this. Any thoughts/advice
welcome.

Dougie

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from Dougie Nisbet contains these words:

On the other hand, if I could find a local timber merchant (just moved
into the area so still finding the local outlets) and told them the
dimensions would they be likely to cut a piece to size?

Take them a section, or cut a cardboard template and take them that. A
good woodyard should be able to match it easily.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

In article ,
Dougie Nisbet wrote:
However woodwork is not something I've done much off and I'm not sure
where to start. Leafing through my DIY books I see mentions of mitres
and tenon saws and such. Although my books mention skirting boards, they
only mention it from the point of view of replacement, whereas I'm
wondering how I'd cut a bit of wood to create the replacement in the
first place. Is that what a router does? Since there are no complicated
curvy bits to the chamfer (I even thought of using my jigsaw at an angle
and putting a block of wood in the workbench) I'm thinking I might give
it a go.

With a bit of skill you can create bull nose skirting with just a plane.
It would be easiest to replace the entire piece rather than patch the
existing. Being across a fireplace, it will be mitred at each end.
Try and find a piece of timber with exactly the same thickness as the
original - perhaps from a reclaim yard if it's old. The height doesn't
matter so much as it can be cut down.

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"Dougie Nisbet" wrote in message
...
I've redecorated a room and thrown out an old electric fire that was
against the wall. The base of the fire was thick wood and the skirting
board had been removed so the fire could press flush to the wall. So I'm
left with about a metre of missing skirting board with a zig-zag cutout at
each end where the fire used to be.

I walked around B&Q and had a look at their skirting but none were the
same. I've had a look on the web and I think what I have is "Chamfered
Bullnosed Skirting" according to
http://www.haymanlimited.co.uk/joine...ducts.cfm?id=2

It is 15-17mm thick (hard to tell exactly because of the paint) 95mm high.
The chamfer starts 70mm from the bottom, and the horizontal bit at the top
is 5-6mm.

Looking around the house I see there are other places where there are bits
of missing skirting board and I'm considering whether it's worth the time
and effort doing the job myself. Especially if it's going to involve
fiddly sizes and if the skirting is not available off the shelf.

However woodwork is not something I've done much off and I'm not sure
where to start. Leafing through my DIY books I see mentions of mitres and
tenon saws and such. Although my books mention skirting boards, they only
mention it from the point of view of replacement, whereas I'm wondering
how I'd cut a bit of wood to create the replacement in the first place. Is
that what a router does? Since there are no complicated curvy bits to the
chamfer (I even thought of using my jigsaw at an angle and putting a block
of wood in the workbench) I'm thinking I might give it a go.

On the other hand, if I could find a local timber merchant (just moved
into the area so still finding the local outlets) and told them the
dimensions would they be likely to cut a piece to size?

Still not sure how I'm going to proceed with this. Any thoughts/advice
welcome.

Dougie

Are you sure B&Q "dual pattern skirt 15x96mm" (about a tenner for 4 x 2.4m)
won't suit? Looks exactly like some of mine for which the aforementioned
will do v well. Obviously the pattern differs on each side so the profile
isn't exactly like the one you linked to.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Dougie Nisbet wrote:

I've redecorated a room and thrown out an old electric fire that was
against the wall. The base of the fire was thick wood and the skirting
board had been removed so the fire could press flush to the wall. So
I'm left with about a metre of missing skirting board with a zig-zag
cutout at each end where the fire used to be.

I walked around B&Q and had a look at their skirting but none were the
same. I've had a look on the web and I think what I have is "Chamfered
Bullnosed Skirting" according to
http://www.haymanlimited.co.uk/joine...ducts.cfm?id=2

It is 15-17mm thick (hard to tell exactly because of the paint) 95mm
high. The chamfer starts 70mm from the bottom, and the horizontal bit
at the top is 5-6mm.

Looking around the house I see there are other places where there are
bits of missing skirting board and I'm considering whether it's worth
the time and effort doing the job myself. Especially if it's going to
involve fiddly sizes and if the skirting is not available off the
shelf.
However woodwork is not something I've done much off and I'm not sure
where to start. Leafing through my DIY books I see mentions of mitres
and tenon saws and such. Although my books mention skirting boards,
they only mention it from the point of view of replacement, whereas
I'm wondering how I'd cut a bit of wood to create the replacement in
the first place. Is that what a router does? Since there are no
complicated curvy bits to the chamfer (I even thought of using my
jigsaw at an angle and putting a block of wood in the workbench) I'm
thinking I might give it a go.

On the other hand, if I could find a local timber merchant (just moved
into the area so still finding the local outlets) and told them the
dimensions would they be likely to cut a piece to size?

Still not sure how I'm going to proceed with this. Any thoughts/advice
welcome.

Dougie


I would just get a length of 4"x1" planed timber - which will be almost the
right size, but rectangular in cross-section - and remove some material with
a plane in order to produce the required chamfer. A power plane would be
best - but you could do short lengths with a hand plane if necessary.
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Dougie Nisbet wrote:
I've redecorated a room and thrown out an old electric fire that was
against the wall. The base of the fire was thick wood and the skirting
board had been removed so the fire could press flush to the wall. So
I'm left with about a metre of missing skirting board with a zig-zag
cutout at each end where the fire used to be.

I walked around B&Q and had a look at their skirting but none were the
same. I've had a look on the web and I think what I have is "Chamfered
Bullnosed Skirting" according to
http://www.haymanlimited.co.uk/joine...ducts.cfm?id=2

It is 15-17mm thick (hard to tell exactly because of the paint) 95mm
high. The chamfer starts 70mm from the bottom, and the horizontal bit
at the top is 5-6mm.

Looking around the house I see there are other places where there are
bits of missing skirting board and I'm considering whether it's worth
the time and effort doing the job myself. Especially if it's going to
involve fiddly sizes and if the skirting is not available off the
shelf.

However woodwork is not something I've done much off and I'm not sure
where to start. Leafing through my DIY books I see mentions of mitres
and tenon saws and such. Although my books mention skirting boards,
they only mention it from the point of view of replacement, whereas
I'm wondering how I'd cut a bit of wood to create the replacement in
the first place. Is that what a router does? Since there are no
complicated curvy bits to the chamfer (I even thought of using my
jigsaw at an angle and putting a block of wood in the workbench) I'm
thinking I might give it a go.

On the other hand, if I could find a local timber merchant (just moved
into the area so still finding the local outlets) and told them the
dimensions would they be likely to cut a piece to size?

Still not sure how I'm going to proceed with this. Any thoughts/advice
welcome.

Dougie

This is summising the skirting is the same in all rooms?

Replace the skirting in the smallest room with todays type and use the old
skirting to replace the bits that are missing in other rooms. :-)

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:

This is summising the skirting is the same in all rooms?

Replace the skirting in the smallest room with todays type and use
the old skirting to replace the bits that are missing in other rooms.
:-)

What an outstandingly good idea! Lateral thinking at it's best!


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

The Medway Handyman wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:


This is summising the skirting is the same in all rooms?

Replace the skirting in the smallest room with todays type and use
the old skirting to replace the bits that are missing in other rooms.
:-)


What an outstandingly good idea! Lateral thinking at it's best!



That's if the plaster behind doesn't collapse and you can get the
fixings out etc.
Not a good idea to patch skirting IME. Replacing the whole section with
something close is less obvious than trying to insert a bit of the same
profile.
I would have thought a timber merchant will have at least 3 chamfered
skirtings to choose from

Stuart Noble wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:


This is summising the skirting is the same in all rooms?

Replace the skirting in the smallest room with todays type and use
the old skirting to replace the bits that are missing in other
rooms. :-)


What an outstandingly good idea! Lateral thinking at it's best!



That's if the plaster behind doesn't collapse and you can get the
fixings out etc.

You must be going about it the wrong way then?

The secret is to find the nails and using a nail punch&hammer,hammer the
nails right through the skirting, with a stanley knife score the wall at
the top of the skirting all the way along and the skirting should then fall
away from wall.

Not a good idea to patch skirting IME. Replacing the whole section
with something close is less obvious than trying to insert a bit of
the same profile.

Your not very good at this are you.

I would have thought a timber merchant will have at least 3 chamfered
skirtings to choose from

They might but the thickness and height are not always the same as a period
house. :-)

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

I would have thought a timber merchant will have at least 3 chamfered
skirtings to choose from


They might but the thickness and height are not always the same as a period
house. :-)


They tend to stock mouldings to suit the local housing stock. How many
variations can there be on a chamfered skirting?

The secret is to find the nails and using a nail punch&hammer,hammer the
nails right through the skirting, with a stanley knife score the wall at
the top of the skirting all the way along and the skirting should then fall
away from wall.

Secret my arse. Quicker to re-plaster behind the skirting than bugger
about trying to punch 4" cut nails

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
[removing old skirting]
The secret is to find the nails and using a nail punch&hammer,hammer the
nails right through the skirting

Sometimes this would take a major effort... you can usually
pull the stuff so that the heads pull through if you can't
punch them.

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:


Replace the skirting in the smallest room with todays type and use the old
skirting to replace the bits that are missing in other rooms. :-)


What a splendid idea! Infact, thanks to everyone for all the useful
responses. I've got a few ideas now and feel quite encouraged.

First I'll rip up the skirting board that's around the bath and use that
to patch the bit I want to do in the short term (carpet is being fitted
next week and so time is short). Then I'll see what's left in the
bathroom (which is getting redone at some point anyway) and see if I can
salvage what's there to repair the other bits that are missing in the
bedroom. Or I might just scrap the bedroom skirting and start again. But
your idea, so blindingly obvious that I'm going to pretend to people I
thought of it :-) solves my short term problem.

cheers,

Dougie

In message , Guy King
writes
The message
from Dougie Nisbet contains these words:

On the other hand, if I could find a local timber merchant (just moved
into the area so still finding the local outlets) and told them the
dimensions would they be likely to cut a piece to size?

Take them a section, or cut a cardboard template and take them that. A
good woodyard should be able to match it easily.

But probably not very cheaply - tooling costs money nowadays

--
geoff

raden wrote:
Guy King writes
The message from Dougie Nisbet contains these words:
On the other hand, if I could find a local timber merchant (just moved
into the area so still finding the local outlets) and told them the
dimensions would they be likely to cut a piece to size?

Take them a section, or cut a cardboard template and take them that. A
good woodyard should be able to match it easily.

But probably not very cheaply - tooling costs money nowadays

"They" (Jewson's, and similar) charge about £20 as a setting-up
fee. Sawn timber is then fed through and you get the moulding.
Until new H&S regulations, the result of European machinations,
that was that. Now they are reluctant to make any old moulding,
and need the cutters "available". Big step forward; *not*.

The message
from raden contains these words:

Take them a section, or cut a cardboard template and take them that. A
good woodyard should be able to match it easily.

But probably not very cheaply - tooling costs money nowadays

I'd bet they have the cutter heads they need already.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

The message
from Chris Bacon contains these words:

"They" (Jewson's, and similar) charge about £20 as a setting-up
fee. Sawn timber is then fed through and you get the moulding.
Until new H&S regulations, the result of European machinations,
that was that. Now they are reluctant to make any old moulding,
and need the cutters "available". Big step forward; *not*.

Luckily my local place don't seem to have heard of this nonsense.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Guy King wrote:
The message from Chris Bacon contains these words:
"They" (Jewson's, and similar) charge about £20 as a setting-up
fee. Sawn timber is then fed through and you get the moulding.
Until new H&S regulations, the result of European machinations,
that was that. Now they are reluctant to make any old moulding,
and need the cutters "available". Big step forward; *not*.

Luckily my local place don't seem to have heard of this nonsense.

Good. I suspect it's just an issue at some mills, some of the
time. To get decent mouldings run off for £20 + the cost of
the sawn timber is good value.

Dougie Nisbet wrote:

But your idea, so blindingly obvious that I'm going
to pretend to people I thought of it :-) solves my short term problem.

My solicitor will be in touch. ;-)

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite