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My conservatory build starts today, and as we live in a boggy area, I
am having a "raft" built. I know NOTHING about this kind of construction, so wonder if anyone can tell me the key points of what I should be looking for, to be sure that its done properly. The builder mentioned something about the fact that it should be 750mm deep, but as its only to support a dwarf wall and conservatory, he only goes down to 500mm. I have always been nervious about this, as, when I was house hunting, I looked at another house on my estate where the conservatory was clearly sinking (There was a 2" gap at the top of the dwarf wall). It turns out that it was only built on standard 'footings' which wern't up to the job considering the type of land we live on. After seeing this, I am paranoid that the same thing could happen to me. What should I be inspecting, just to make sure that its up to the job? Any info would be apprecaited Jon |
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a raft is generally a concrete slab of say 150mm thick maybe more maybe
less with thickened edges where the wall goes of say an extra 300 - 500mm. It is all cast as one and could have some reinforcing in it. It is the foundations and oversite all cast at the same time. |
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Give you local BCO a call, cost pratically nothing to speak to him, local
call, and could save a packet if you have to underpin further down the line. Cheers Jonathan |
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a raft is generally a concrete slab of say 150mm thick maybe more maybe
less with thickened edges where the wall goes of say an extra 300 - 500mm. It is all cast as one and could have some reinforcing in it. It is the foundations and oversite all cast at the same time. That certainly fits the description of what he is doing. He said that he is doing 500mm at the edges (under the brickwork) and a thinner slab (Almost certainly more than 150mm) all over. Also, he is putting in 4 layers of steel re-enforcement too, so it certainly seems that he is doing roughly the right thing. Thanks for that. Jon |
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Give you local BCO a call, cost pratically nothing to speak to him, local
call, and could save a packet if you have to underpin further down the line. Cheers Jonathan Excuse my ignorance, but whats a BCO? My best guess is "Buildings Control Officer". If I am right, where would I find a BCO? Are they linked to the council? |
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Jon Weaver wrote:
Give you local BCO a call, cost pratically nothing to speak to him, local call, and could save a packet if you have to underpin further down the line. Cheers Jonathan Excuse my ignorance, but whats a BCO? My best guess is "Buildings Control Officer". If I am right, where would I find a BCO? Are they linked to the council? Yep, when you build a house or an exstension he is the bloke that comes and make everyone nervouse. He will usaully visit first to check the foundations, then to check the damp course and he will also check that the drains are set right and don't leak. It is his job to make sure that Building Regulations are adhered to. He works for the council, mine is actually quite a nice bloke and responds to my emails when I send them. Cheers Jonathan |
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A true raft foundation will look something like:
| | | | | | | |-------------Cavity wall | | | | | | |__|______________ ___|__|_| --Raft | ___________ | / |_____________/ -with the toe and the slab linked together by substantial amounts of reinforcement (I would expect at least two layers of mesh of about 8-10mm diameter bars at 200mm centres, linked to additional mesh in the toe), designed by a structural engineer. This is designed to spread the load of the outer walls across the whole area. The normal depth of a raft would be about 300mm deep at the toe and 150mm in the centre, with at least a 150mm thick base of well compacted hardcore below. Check with the builders that they have these details on site, and be very suspicious if they don't. A false raft is simply the footings and the slab poured in one go. It's no better than normal strip footings, and in all likelihood worse, as the foundation depth is usually not enough, and there is not usually the opportunity to properly compact the edges of the hardcore under the slab. Don't accept this if the ground is anything less than a firm clay, sand, gravel, etc., and even if it is, get the builders to construct separate foundations and slab. Can I just ask about the 'hardcore'.. Would I expect hardcore under the toe as well as the slab? Currently the trech has been dug out and they have started constructing the metal work in the toe. The dimensions of the metal work is 400mm(h)x400mm(d) and the current trench approx 450mm deep. However, the metal work is placed right on the soil below as no hardcore has been put in. | _______ _______ | || | __________________________ | || || Steel | / \ | Steel || || Cage | / \ | Cage || ||_______|/ \|_______|| I spoke to a friend who is a "quantity surveyer" (And therefore not really qualified) and he didn't really feel that this was a problem, as he believed that the hardcore would normally go in under the slab rather than the toe There are 5 tonnes of hardcore on my drive and 6 sheets of steel-grid, so its clear that they have plenty more to do and there is no evidence that they are doing this wrong... Should I be insisting that they pack put hardcore under the toe or will hard-core under the slab be good enough? Also, does 450mm seem deep enough for this kind of application? |
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BigWallop wrote:
"John Armstrong" wrote in message ... On 10 Jul 2003 15:09:22 -0700, (Jon Weaver) wrote: Currently the trech has been dug out and they have started constructing the metal work in the toe. The dimensions of the metal work is 400mm(h)x400mm(d) and the current trench approx 450mm deep. However, the metal work is placed right on the soil below as no hardcore has been put in. When you say right on the soil, do you mean that, or are there spacers? There should be spacers so when the concrete is poured there is 50mm of concrete under the reinforcement. Have never seen hardcore under the foundations. (An a QS though, so not really qualified :-) ) -- John Hard core will be used if the ground under the raft is boggy or susceptible to flooding, and allows water to wash through under the unit without washing away any of the soil. The raft will then sit on top of the hard core and not be bonded to it and this will allow the raft to drain surface water through to the hard core and back in to surrounding ground. A sort of sub-terrainian colonial drainage system you might say. --- BigWallop http://basecuritysystems.no-ip.com Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.498 / Virus Database: 297 - Release Date: 08/07/03 Yes. Hardcore isn't just any old muck. It has a definite mechanical property - two in fact - derving from the trapped air - ability to drain, and ability to crush ligthly under stress. Limestone is better here. This menas it bothg stops ptential subsidence from water, and allows a certain amount of heave to take place... The oher property is of load spreading. Here the deeper the better. |
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![]() "Jon Weaver" wrote in message om... John Armstrong wrote in message . .. On 10 Jul 2003 15:09:22 -0700, (Jon Weaver) wrote: Currently the trech has been dug out and they have started constructing the metal work in the toe. The dimensions of the metal work is 400mm(h)x400mm(d) and the current trench approx 450mm deep. However, the metal work is placed right on the soil below as no hardcore has been put in. When you say right on the soil, do you mean that, or are there spacers? There should be spacers so when the concrete is poured there is 50mm of concrete under the reinforcement. Have never seen hardcore under the foundations. (An a QS though, so not really qualified :-) ) THe other thing that I ment to say is that no 'hardcore' as such has been delivered.. What i have is 4 bags (tons) of a material which ranges from 'dust' to approx 1" stones.. If this is what is going to be 'packed' into the base, is it the right stuff? I'd say your builder knows what he's doing. The hard-core is there to stop water building up against the underside of the raft, that's all, and allow any water from surrounding areas to flush under the new raft. If you used larger stones, then the raft would move about on the top of them. If you used dust, then it would wash away with the rest of the soil. So you have to use small stones to keep them from away, but to allow the soil to vent water through them and down and away from the raft. It works like a sand filter (do a web search to find one). --- BigWallop http://basecuritysystems.no-ip.com Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.500 / Virus Database: 298 - Release Date: 10/07/03 |
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me. What should I be inspecting, just to make sure that its up
to the job? Nothing. A badly DESIGNED but wonderfully constructed raft will slowly sink or drift off down the garden. A well designed one, which will incorporate a certain margin of error in the calcs, will probably stand some slightly off construction under a conservatory which is a lightweight thing. You aren't in a position to check the cals, so... Close the curtains. Pour yourself a drink. Relax. Stay away until it is done. W. |
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