How did this happen, and what could have been done to prevent it.

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Jon

On Thu, 04 May 2006 11:27:32 GMT, "jon" wrote:

How did this happen, and what could have been done to prevent it.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/144/14.0.html

Jon

Lightning by proxy?
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jon wrote:
How did this happen, and what could have been done to prevent it.

Don't go in for total immersion baptism?

Somehow the microphone or stand had become live.

That requires at least a double fault - no effective earth and
live-to-earth fault (and no RCD - Residual Current Device - see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual-current_device).

Or somebody really didn't want to hear his sermons drone on and on
again.

Earth faults may be more common on audio equipment as the incompetant
randomly cut earth wires whilst attempting to cure earth-loops causing
humming noises.

Immediate recourse to prayer is possibly not the best course of action
in an emergency. Disconnecting the power and CPR is.

jon wrote:
How did this happen, and what could have been done to prevent it.

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Jon



The life insurance co. will claim it was an act of God.

john2

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jon wrote:
How did this happen, and what could have been done to prevent it.

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First, it's a most unlikely thing to happen in the UK these days due to
higher standards in both wiring and amplifier safety. Of course this
doesn't include old wiring or gear.

Trouble with churches is many totally unskilled amateurs in the
congregation think they have to help out with this sort of thing, and cut
corners as long as it works. Sort of.

The microphone casing is usually grounded to the amplifier chassis at some
point. That is usually connected to earth - although not necessarily if
the amp is double insulated.

So it could be any number of things - faulty safety earth and then a fault
in the amp, or a fault in any equipment connected to it.

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How did this happen, and what could have been done to prevent it.

Obeying the word of God, probably.

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Earth faults may be more common on audio equipment as the incompetant
randomly cut earth wires whilst attempting to cure earth-loops causing
humming noises.

Get round the immediate problem by using a radio-mike, I s'pose.

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Shame they didn't use a radio microphone.

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Guy King typed

Get round the immediate problem by using a radio-mike, I s'pose.

You beat me to it by 11 seconds, buggrit!

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Guy King typed

Get round the immediate problem by using a radio-mike, I s'pose.

You beat me to it by 11 seconds, buggrit!

Or don't use a mike at all.

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How did this happen, and what could have been done to prevent it.

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RCD's are not that common in US. Hopefully in UK with modern'ish electrics
an RCD would trip preventing this type of thing.

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from Helen Deborah Vecht contains these words:

Get round the immediate problem by using a radio-mike, I s'pose.

You beat me to it by 11 seconds, buggrit!

Radio-rays, innit.

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Ian_m wrote:
RCD's are not that common in US. Hopefully in UK with modern'ish electrics
an RCD would trip preventing this type of thing.

AIUI more commonly termed Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter (GFCI) in
the US.

Quoting indirectly from National Electrical Code (US)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Electrical_Code)

"A ground fault circuit interrupter (GFCI) is required on all outlets
in bathrooms, outdoors and kitchens, and, in addition, for dwelling
units: crawl-spaces, garages, boathouses, unfinished basements, and
within 6 feet (1.8 m) of a wet-bar sink, with limited exceptions."

But maybe they forgot to specify baptismal fonts!!!

But then does the UK for that matter? Is a font considered Zone 0, the
same as a bath or washbasin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_wiring_%28UK%29

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John Cartmell wrote:
Or don't use a mike at all.

Yes - shouldn't be needed in a proper church. With a proper minister.

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Divine intervention

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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jon wrote:
How did this happen, and what could have been done to prevent it.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/144/14.0.html

First, it's a most unlikely thing to happen in the UK these days due to
higher standards in both wiring and amplifier safety. Of course this
doesn't include old wiring or gear.

Trouble with churches is many totally unskilled amateurs in the
congregation think they have to help out with this sort of thing, and cut
corners as long as it works. Sort of.

The microphone casing is usually grounded to the amplifier chassis at some
point. That is usually connected to earth - although not necessarily if
the amp is double insulated.


Lots of older equipment in the USA has its exposed metalwork "grounded"
through the neutral, which is bonded to a ground rod at the main service
inlet. But when someone is standing up to his thighs in a tank of water,
he could get a generous share of the equipment's neutral return current.

There may also be an electric water heater involved. Even if it wasn't
faulty, it very likely *would* have had its own protective ground
conductor... making the situation even worse.

So it could be any number of things - faulty safety earth and then a fault
in the amp, or a fault in any equipment connected to it.

Definitely something must have been "not to code". The US National
Electrical Code must cover such situations, as ours does, or else we'd
be losing Baptist ministers at an unholy rate.



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Ian White

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How did this happen, and what could have been done to prevent it.

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Jon

To prevent it :-)

don't believe in gods, hence no christianity(or is it insanity?), hence no
baptisms, hence no heaven - hence only Earth.


Keith G. Powell