Hi all,

I no longer have my 12" table saw, which is what I'd normally use for
ripping 18mm softwood. I have a small project which requires a fair bit
of ripping. I'm looking at the various options available to me.

1. Get a cheap table saw for this project. Not keen on this, because
I've had cheap table saws and I'm really not a fan.

2. Use a hand held circular saw. This is probably what I'll end up
doing, but I really don't enjoy it, especially when trimming (cutting
off say a 20mm wide strip).

3. Buy a small router table (I'd need a router too, because my decent
router is also gone).

4. Jigsaw and fence.


Which would you do in the circumstances? Any other ideas?


--
Grunff

Grunff wrote:
I no longer have my 12" table saw, which is what I'd normally use for
ripping 18mm softwood. I have a small project which requires a fair bit
of ripping. I'm looking at the various options available to me.

1. Get a cheap table saw for this project. Not keen on this, because
I've had cheap table saws and I'm really not a fan.

2. Use a hand held circular saw. This is probably what I'll end up
doing, but I really don't enjoy it, especially when trimming (cutting
off say a 20mm wide strip).

3. Buy a small router table (I'd need a router too, because my decent
router is also gone).

4. Jigsaw and fence.

Out of those options, certainly (2), with (1) (4) (3) after, in that
order. Waht are you ripping down, what's it for? I take it that you've
already got the timber?

Chris Bacon wrote:

Out of those options, certainly (2), with (1) (4) (3) after, in that
order. Waht are you ripping down, what's it for? I take it that you've
already got the timber?

We're replacing a bunch of woodwork at a friend's house; skirting,
architraves, t&g panelling etc. We haven't got the timber yet, but for
various reasons much of it will need to be ripped (the off the shelf
sizes aren't right).

--
Grunff

Grunff wrote:
Hi all,

I no longer have my 12" table saw, which is what I'd normally use for
ripping 18mm softwood. I have a small project which requires a fair bit
of ripping. I'm looking at the various options available to me.

1. Get a cheap table saw for this project. Not keen on this, because
I've had cheap table saws and I'm really not a fan.

2. Use a hand held circular saw. This is probably what I'll end up
doing, but I really don't enjoy it, especially when trimming (cutting
off say a 20mm wide strip).

3. Buy a small router table (I'd need a router too, because my decent
router is also gone).

4. Jigsaw and fence.


Which would you do in the circumstances? Any other ideas?



If you need reasonable accuracy and speed, I think you're stuck with
option 1.
2&4 probably involve the fence following the offcut, which is never
satisfactory IME.
3 is overkill

Grunff wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:

Out of those options, certainly (2), with (1) (4) (3) after, in that
order. Waht are you ripping down, what's it for? I take it that
you've already got the timber?

We're replacing a bunch of woodwork at a friend's house; skirting,
architraves, t&g panelling etc. We haven't got the timber yet, but for
various reasons much of it will need to be ripped (the off the shelf
sizes aren't right).

use travis perkins. get a trade card, get them to cut it and stick it on
the van (they do free delivery) or hire a decent table saw for a week ?

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:56:47 +0000, Grunff wrote:

Hi all,

I no longer have my 12" table saw, which is what I'd normally use for
ripping 18mm softwood. I have a small project which requires a fair bit
of ripping. I'm looking at the various options available to me.

1. Get a cheap table saw for this project. Not keen on this, because
I've had cheap table saws and I'm really not a fan.

2. Use a hand held circular saw. This is probably what I'll end up
doing, but I really don't enjoy it, especially when trimming (cutting
off say a 20mm wide strip).

3. Buy a small router table (I'd need a router too, because my decent
router is also gone).

4. Jigsaw and fence.


Which would you do in the circumstances? Any other ideas?


Where's the friend?

I would be pleased to machine the timber for you, if you know the
sizes ahead of time and the transport option is economically
realistic.

Jewsons and the Travis Perkins timber places will machine timber to
size. Frankly, it's expensive for what it is as a service, but may be
the most cost effective.

Next option would be to rent a portable table saw, but that's likely
to be as expensive as having it machined by the supplier.

I wouldn't consider a router/table or jigsaw - not really appropriate
and very slow.

Circular saw might be OK if you buy wide boards and clamp a fence to
the piece when cutting, but it will need finishing since the wanted
pieces would be cut away waste, in effect.


--

..andy

Andy Hall wrote:

Where's the friend?

Devon.


I would be pleased to machine the timber for you, if you know the
sizes ahead of time and the transport option is economically
realistic.

Thanks very much for the offer Andy, that's very kind. However, I
suspect the time/transport considerations would make it unfeasible.


Jewsons and the Travis Perkins timber places will machine timber to
size. Frankly, it's expensive for what it is as a service, but may be
the most cost effective.

I didn't know that - this may well be the best option. I'll call
tomorrow to get an idea of prices.


Next option would be to rent a portable table saw, but that's likely
to be as expensive as having it machined by the supplier.

I'll look into that too.


I wouldn't consider a router/table or jigsaw - not really appropriate
and very slow.

Ok.

It's very odd when you no longer have the tools you've come to rely on :-)

Thanks.


--
Grunff

Grunff wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
Out of those options, certainly (2), with (1) (4) (3) after, in that
order. Waht are you ripping down, what's it for? I take it that you've
already got the timber?

We're replacing a bunch of woodwork at a friend's house; skirting,
architraves, t&g panelling etc. We haven't got the timber yet, but for
various reasons much of it will need to be ripped (the off the shelf
sizes aren't right).

If you've got samples, or can make some up, I should certainly
consider going to Jewson's, or somewhere else with a mill, and
get them to run it off for you. You can have exactly what you
want (if you don't know, they will most likely be able to show
you a cupboard full of samples from previous jobs), the set-up
fee is only about £15 per moulding, and after that you will pay
for sawn timber (not planed, so it's cheaper!) that is simply
fed through their machine and comes out as you want it. Measure
up, tell them "I want X metres of that, Y of that, Z of that" &
the job's done. Get a bit extra just in case. I have done this
several times, for unobtainable lambstongue architrave, some
fancy picture rail, and a lot of sash window mouldings. Great!

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:02:28 +0000, Grunff wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:

Where's the friend?

Devon.


I would be pleased to machine the timber for you, if you know the
sizes ahead of time and the transport option is economically
realistic.

Thanks very much for the offer Andy, that's very kind. However, I
suspect the time/transport considerations would make it unfeasible.


Hmm... probably would.



Jewsons and the Travis Perkins timber places will machine timber to
size. Frankly, it's expensive for what it is as a service, but may be
the most cost effective.

I didn't know that - this may well be the best option. I'll call
tomorrow to get an idea of prices.

I bought some western red cedar from them before I had the Felder and
it wasn't too much over the odds compared with standard PAR sizes. I
did have to wait about ten days because the mill was busy, though.



Next option would be to rent a portable table saw, but that's likely
to be as expensive as having it machined by the supplier.

I'll look into that too.


I wouldn't consider a router/table or jigsaw - not really appropriate
and very slow.

Ok.

It's very odd when you no longer have the tools you've come to rely on :-)

Thanks.

--

..andy

.. wrote:
Grunff wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
Out of those options, certainly (2), with (1) (4) (3) after, in that
order. Waht are you ripping down, what's it for? I take it that
you've already got the timber?

We're replacing a bunch of woodwork at a friend's house; skirting,
architraves, t&g panelling etc. We haven't got the timber yet, but for
various reasons much of it will need to be ripped (the off the shelf
sizes aren't right).

use travis perkins.

@*#?!XX(O)ings, pish. Only if you *really* need to.


get a trade card, get them to cut it and stick it on
the van (they do free delivery)

Free delivery, right-ho, I can see how they do it.

Grunff wrote:
Andy Hall wrote:
Jewsons and the Travis Perkins timber places will machine timber to
size. Frankly, it's expensive for what it is as a service, but may be
the most cost effective.

I didn't know that - this may well be the best option. I'll call
tomorrow to get an idea of prices.

See other reply, it's not expensive at all.


It's very odd when you no longer have the tools you've come to rely on

Earthquake? Fire? Volcanic erruption? Hope you were insured, anyway.

Chris Bacon wrote:

If you've got samples, or can make some up, I should certainly
consider going to Jewson's, or somewhere else with a mill, and
get them to run it off for you. You can have exactly what you
want (if you don't know, they will most likely be able to show
you a cupboard full of samples from previous jobs), the set-up
fee is only about £15 per moulding, and after that you will pay
for sawn timber (not planed, so it's cheaper!) that is simply
fed through their machine and comes out as you want it. Measure
up, tell them "I want X metres of that, Y of that, Z of that" &
the job's done. Get a bit extra just in case. I have done this
several times, for unobtainable lambstongue architrave, some
fancy picture rail, and a lot of sash window mouldings. Great!


Thanks, I will definitely check this option out, it sounds like probably
the best solution.

--
Grunff

Chris Bacon wrote:
. wrote:
Grunff wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
Out of those options, certainly (2), with (1) (4) (3) after, in
that order. Waht are you ripping down, what's it for? I take it
that you've already got the timber?

We're replacing a bunch of woodwork at a friend's house; skirting,
architraves, t&g panelling etc. We haven't got the timber yet, but
for various reasons much of it will need to be ripped (the off the
shelf sizes aren't right).

use travis perkins.

@*#?!XX(O)ings, pish. Only if you *really* need to.

needs must. seems like the OP might *really* need to. (or hire a saw)

get a trade card, get them to cut it and stick it on
the van (they do free delivery)

Free delivery, right-ho, I can see how they do it.

no extra charge for delivery. is that easier for you to understand ?
i.e timed delivery, don't have to hire a van, pay extra, or blag a mate.

how convenient is that ! and, get this, if you don't like what turns
up on the van you can reject it and keep doing so until they give
you what you want.

Chris Bacon wrote:

Earthquake? Fire? Volcanic erruption? Hope you were insured, anyway.

Not quite - selling up and going off travelling round the world for a
couple of years. So many of the big tools have now been rehomed :-(

--
Grunff

.. wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
. wrote:
use travis perkins.

@*#?!XX(O)ings, pish. Only if you *really* need to.

needs must. seems like the OP might *really* need to. (or hire a saw)


get a trade card, get them to cut it and stick it on
the van (they do free delivery)

Free delivery, right-ho, I can see how they do it.

no extra charge for delivery. is that easier for you to understand ?

That's what I said. Obviously you didn't get it. Never mind.

Grunff wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
[ loss of tools ]
Earthquake? Fire? Volcanic erruption? Hope you were insured, anyway.

Not quite - selling up and going off travelling round the world for a
couple of years

Lucky you. If you go anywhere a bit basic, and have the chance to "mix
in", keep an eye on how people make things - they can be *marvellous*!

Grunff wrote:

It's very odd when you no longer have the tools you've come to rely on :-)

Almost disorientating. I would stay well away from the jigsaw option
btw, I did it once and never again. That was the job that really put me
off jigsaws.


NT

Chris Bacon wrote:
. wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
. wrote:
use travis perkins.

@*#?!XX(O)ings, pish. Only if you *really* need to.

needs must. seems like the OP might *really* need to. (or hire a saw)


get a trade card, get them to cut it and stick it on
the van (they do free delivery)

Free delivery, right-ho, I can see how they do it.

no extra charge for delivery. is that easier for you to understand ?

That's what I said. Obviously you didn't get it. Never mind.

but what was the point of 'splitting the hair' to such an extent ?

do you point out to other shoppers that the 'free' carrier bags in shops
are really subsidised and everyone but you is being conned ?

.. wrote:
do you point out to other shoppers that the 'free' carrier bags in shops
are really subsidised

Oh, God. We're back to an Aldi/Lidl thread. Please stand by.


and everyone but you is being conned ?

Hey, hang on, I'm conned with everyone else! Erm... free carrier
bags. "Free estimates". Free delivery. Free lunches. All the same!

Chris Bacon wrote:
. wrote:
do you point out to other shoppers that the 'free' carrier bags in
shops are really subsidised

Oh, God. We're back to an Aldi/Lidl thread. Please stand by.


and everyone but you is being conned ?

Hey, hang on, I'm conned with everyone else! Erm... free carrier
bags. "Free estimates". Free delivery. Free lunches. All the same!

hmm. ok. it's probably simpler to killfile you.

bye.

.. wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
. wrote:
do you point out to other shoppers that the 'free' carrier bags in
shops are really subsidised

Oh, God. We're back to an Aldi/Lidl thread. Please stand by.

and everyone but you is being conned ?

Hey, hang on, I'm conned with everyone else! Erm... free carrier
bags. "Free estimates". Free delivery. Free lunches. All the same!

hmm. ok. it's probably simpler to killfile you.

What a dope - if you can't understand the language then no wonder
you're so sensitive to *imagined slights*. Not *my* loss, matey.
Still, you won't see this, so you'll proceed in ignorance forever.
Good luck.

In article
Grunff wrote:
snip

2. Use a hand held circular saw. This is probably what I'll end up
doing, but I really don't enjoy it, especially when trimming (cutting
off say a 20mm wide strip).

Use a saw board :-)

in 502962 20060223 110334 Rob Morley wrote:
In article
Grunff wrote:
snip

2. Use a hand held circular saw. This is probably what I'll end up
doing, but I really don't enjoy it, especially when trimming (cutting
off say a 20mm wide strip).

Use a saw board :-)

Yep, I cut up all my 8x4 sheets using a saw-board and a circular saw.
Can't think how I used to manage without one (actually I have several).

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:03:34 -0000, Rob Morley
wrote:

In article
Grunff wrote:
snip

2. Use a hand held circular saw. This is probably what I'll end up
doing, but I really don't enjoy it, especially when trimming (cutting
off say a 20mm wide strip).

Use a saw board :-)

True, but what if the wood being ripped is fairly narrow? I've got
some 3x1 to rip to 2x1 and am thinking about the best way to do it.

cheers,
Pete.

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:35:20 +0000, Pete C
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:03:34 -0000, Rob Morley
wrote:

In article
Grunff wrote:
snip

2. Use a hand held circular saw. This is probably what I'll end up
doing, but I really don't enjoy it, especially when trimming (cutting
off say a 20mm wide strip).

Use a saw board :-)

True, but what if the wood being ripped is fairly narrow? I've got
some 3x1 to rip to 2x1 and am thinking about the best way to do it.

cheers,
Pete.

In the absence of a table saw or thicknesser, one option is to clamp a
wider board of the same tickness behind the one in question and use
that to support the circular saw.


--

..andy