http://www.priups.com/

"Richard Factor created a deep HOWTO on using a Toyota Prius hybrid
automobile as an emergency Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) for your
house. According to his estimates, it can be cheaper than buying a
generator, as long as you already own the car."

(from http://www.boingboing.net/ )

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
http://www.priups.com/

"Richard Factor created a deep HOWTO
on using a Toyota Prius hybrid
automobile as an emergency Uninterruptible
Power Supply (UPS) for your
house. According to his estimates, it can
be cheaper than buying a
generator, as long as you already
own the car."

(from http://www.boingboing.net/ )

Yep. There was talk of fuel cell cars being linked up to a house/grid
powered by compressed natural gas or LPG, and all these cars would mean less
power stations.

http://www.calcars.org/ Calcars put larger Lith-Ion batteries into a Prius
and a mains charging point giving over 100 miles range on batteries. As
long as the cars is below 41mph the engine never cuts in. So on a commute
over a week no petrol need be burnt at all. The cost of re-charging from the
grid is pennies - if yiou plug it in at work even better. Initially Toyota
scorned adaptations of the Prius, but now encourage it.

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
http://www.priups.com/

"Richard Factor created a deep HOWTO
on using a Toyota Prius hybrid
automobile as an emergency
Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) for your
house. According to his estimates, it can
be cheaper than buying a generator, as
long as you already own the car."

(from http://www.boingboing.net/ )

"If the grid goes down - by dint of natural disaster, terrorist strike or a
spike in demand - Richard Factor has a Prius that can supply power to his
home. Factor, an electronics buff who lives in New Jersey, spliced a
heavy-duty outlet right into the car's electrical system and wired his home's
appliances to the Prius via a standard computer-backup system. When the car's
own potent battery loses too much energy, running the engine recharges it.
"If you are frugal, one tank of gas can power the house for a couple of
weeks," he says."

....much better idea than driving the thing about with all those heavy
batteries!

"Phil" wrote in message
oups.com...

...much better idea than driving the
thing about with all those heavy
batteries!

The Prius battery is very light in fact.
"It has a curb weight of 1254 kg. The Prius ... weight of the complete
battery pack is 53.3 kg."
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:c0cnio7AHR0J:www.nrel.gov/vehiclesandfuels/energystorage/pdfs/2a_2002_01_1962.pdf+Prius+battery+%22weight%22&hl= en

Amazing. They all guess and always get it wrong.

On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:50:51 UTC, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

The Prius battery is very light in fact.
"It has a curb weight of 1254 kg. The Prius ... weight of the complete
battery pack is 53.3 kg."

I thought curbs were only used on horses? Speak English...

As for the weight, you're saying it weighs rather more than a
hundredweight...

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"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:50:51 UTC, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

The Prius battery is very light in fact.
"It has a curb weight of 1254 kg. The Prius ... weight of the complete
battery pack is 53.3 kg."

I thought curbs were only used on horses? Speak English...

Note the quotes. This is how in works in computers and the likes.


As for the weight, you're saying it weighs rather more than a
hundredweight...

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In article ,
Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:50:51 UTC, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

The Prius battery is very light in fact.
"It has a curb weight of 1254 kg. The Prius ... weight of the complete
battery pack is 53.3 kg."

Now imagine the fuel consumption you'd get from a comparable performance
diesel of the same weight saving build instead of the poor 24 mpg of a
hard driven Prius?

I thought curbs were only used on horses? Speak English...

Dribble doesn't speak but quotes...

As for the weight, you're saying it weighs rather more than a
hundredweight...

And the tiny range on battery only could be replaced by a few pints of
diesel.

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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Phil" wrote in message
oups.com...

...much better idea than driving the
thing about with all those heavy
batteries!

The Prius battery is very light in fact.
"It has a curb weight of 1254 kg. The Prius ... weight of the complete
battery pack is 53.3 kg."

That was the weight of the Mk 1 Prius. The Mk 2 battery has a weight of 45
kilograms of total battery mass. The more recent version were about 33 kg.
New Lithium batteries much, much lighter still. The large battery pack
installed to give 130mpg and charged from the grid are 81 kg above.

And what do the useable battery packs weigh?
And the motors/generator/other associated control gear (inverters etc.)
Much better to ditch the lot & make it lighter & more economical to
run. After all, electricity to recharge isn't e-friendly either.


Phil.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Phil" wrote in message
oups.com...

...much better idea than driving the
thing about with all those heavy
batteries!

The Prius battery is very light in fact.
"It has a curb weight of 1254 kg. The Prius ... weight of the complete
battery pack is 53.3 kg."
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:c0cnio7AHR0J:www.nrel.gov/vehiclesandfuels/energystorage/pdfs/2a_2002_01_1962.pdf+Prius+battery+%22weight%22&hl= en

Amazing. They all guess and always get it wrong.

In message , Andy Dingley
writes
http://www.priups.com/

"Richard Factor created a deep HOWTO on using a Toyota Prius hybrid
automobile as an emergency Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) for your
house. According to his estimates, it can be cheaper than buying a
generator, as long as you already own the car."

And the batteries aren't knackered ....


(from http://www.boingboing.net/ )

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"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Andy Dingley
writes
http://www.priups.com/

"Richard Factor created a deep HOWTO on using a Toyota Prius hybrid
automobile as an emergency Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) for your
house. According to his estimates, it can be cheaper than buying a
generator, as long as you already own the car."

And the batteries aren't knackered ....

Maxie, why should they be?

(from http://www.boingboing.net/ )

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Andy Dingley wrote:

http://www.priups.com/

interesting, but site seems down at the moment

I was reading up on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Synergy_Drive at
the weekend, the planetary gear/engine/motor/generator arrangement seems
quite clever

nice simulator at
http://www.wind.sannet.ne.jp/m_matsu...=en?Country=GB

Andy Burns wrote:

http://www.wind.sannet.ne.jp/m_matsu...=en?Country=GB

I can figure out what the "petrol pump" and "light bulb" icons mean, but
what is the "galloping tortoise" icon all about?

Does it mean something along the lines of "I can't go any faster at the
moment because I'm having to divert some engine power into the battery
because you just drained half the battery charge by accelerating like a
boy racer"?

In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:
I was reading up on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Synergy_Drive at
the weekend, the planetary gear/engine/motor/generator arrangement seems
quite clever

Yes - but don't mention its CVT here. ;-)

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:
I was reading up on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Synergy_Drive at
the weekend, the planetary gear/engine/motor/generator arrangement seems
quite clever

Yes - but don't mention its CVT here. ;-)

He never because it is not.