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I'm trying to fix down a new WC pan to a wooden floor.

Normally, one would screw straight down (or at a slight angle with
long screws) into the floorboards to hold the thing steady.

However, the design of this one is such that I can only get a screw in
horzintally (ie parallel to the floor) since the holes are in the
sides of the pan.

It came with no special fixing kit and I've managed to get the bidet
fixed by making a wooden bracket but cannot do the same with the WC
pan due to the bend itself.

Is there a kit I can buy or any other tips you have for getting this
damn thing to fix. I'm at my wits end with it.

Natually, I have tried silicon round the base but this is not ideal.

Thanks.
Rob

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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:10:06 -0000, Rob Morley
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I'm trying to fix down a new WC pan to a wooden floor.

Normally, one would screw straight down (or at a slight angle with
long screws) into the floorboards to hold the thing steady.

However, the design of this one is such that I can only get a screw in
horzintally (ie parallel to the floor) since the holes are in the
sides of the pan.

Any chance of some pictures?


I don't have a camera handy, but if you go here
http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/1630-13305

You will see a standard toilet pan which can be screwed *down* the
floor. It is an Ideal but mine is Lecico (who have no suggestions,
nicely).

The one I have is like this
http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/1630-13292
which has holes which can only be screwed into horizontally.

Common sense would suggest a block of wood screwed to the floor then
screw into that, but for the WC pan the u-bend is in the way, so no
joy.

If I could, I would take the thing and sling it in a skip. Classic
form over function. Designed to look nice and yet rubbish to work
with. Like modern cars and god knows what else.

Hehe! Rant, Rant!

Any suggestions?
Rob

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In article ,
Kalico wrote:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:10:06 -0000, Rob Morley
wrote:

In article ,
says...
I'm trying to fix down a new WC pan to a wooden floor.

Normally, one would screw straight down (or at a slight angle with
long screws) into the floorboards to hold the thing steady.

However, the design of this one is such that I can only get a screw in
horzintally (ie parallel to the floor) since the holes are in the
sides of the pan.

Any chance of some pictures?


I don't have a camera handy, but if you go here
http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/1630-13305

You will see a standard toilet pan which can be screwed *down* the
floor. It is an Ideal but mine is Lecico (who have no suggestions,
nicely).


Mines like that. IT came with a pair of screws to screw vertically down
into the floor, then another couple of bolts to screw into the 2 in
the floor.

I haven't installed them... yet.

The cistern is supposed to be bolted to the wall too - it's a close
coupled thing. My fear is that if I bolt everythign together then the
bit the cistern sits on (and is bolted to) might just crack one day...

(At least thats what I'm telling swimbo!!!)

Gordon
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Kalico wrote:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:10:06 -0000, Rob Morley
wrote:

In article ,
says...
I'm trying to fix down a new WC pan to a wooden floor.

Normally, one would screw straight down (or at a slight angle with
long screws) into the floorboards to hold the thing steady.

However, the design of this one is such that I can only get a screw in
horzintally (ie parallel to the floor) since the holes are in the
sides of the pan.

Any chance of some pictures?


I don't have a camera handy, but if you go here
http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/1630-13305

You will see a standard toilet pan which can be screwed *down* the
floor. It is an Ideal but mine is Lecico (who have no suggestions,
nicely).

The one I have is like this
http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/1630-13292
which has holes which can only be screwed into horizontally.

Common sense would suggest a block of wood screwed to the floor then
screw into that, but for the WC pan the u-bend is in the way, so no
joy.

If I could, I would take the thing and sling it in a skip. Classic
form over function. Designed to look nice and yet rubbish to work
with. Like modern cars and god knows what else.

Hehe! Rant, Rant!

Any suggestions?
Rob


Almost certainly there should be a bracket(s) with it - you need to
phone your supplier...



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In article ,
says...
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The one I have is like this
http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/1630-13292
which has holes which can only be screwed into horizontally.

Common sense would suggest a block of wood screwed to the floor then
screw into that, but for the WC pan the u-bend is in the way, so no
joy.


I thought that was what you meant, but I wasn't sure.

Fix screw eyes into the floor, ram a bit of dowel through the eyes and
screw into that. If there isn't room for that you'll need a couple of
steel angle brackets with some sort of captive nut arrangement. In
either case silicone would be a worthwhile addition.
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Kalico wrote:

The one I have is like this
http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/1630-13292
which has holes which can only be screwed into horizontally.


It should have come with some plastic right angle brackets. You screw
these to the floor first, and then fix through the side of the pan into
the brackets.

Talk to the supplier if they are missing.


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"Kalico" wrote in message
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I'm trying to fix down a new WC pan to a wooden floor.

Normally, one would screw straight down (or at a slight angle with
long screws) into the floorboards to hold the thing steady.

However, the design of this one is such that I can only get a screw in
horzintally (ie parallel to the floor) since the holes are in the
sides of the pan.

It came with no special fixing kit and I've managed to get the bidet
fixed by making a wooden bracket but cannot do the same with the WC
pan due to the bend itself.

Is there a kit I can buy or any other tips you have for getting this
damn thing to fix. I'm at my wits end with it.

Natually, I have tried silicon round the base but this is not ideal.

Thanks.
Rob


Mine came with a steel bracket (U shaped) the legs of the U being approx 2
ins high having loose captive nuts towards the top to take special machine
screws which are screwed in through the horisontal holes in the toilet pan.
The bottom of the U was the same width as the internal dimenson between the
horisontal holes in the pan.
The steel bracket is screwed down to the wooden floor according to the
instuctions and template that came with it. I can copy the instuctions which
has a picture of bracket and email it to you if it helps.
Regards
Don


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Kalico wrote:
I'm trying to fix down a new WC pan to a wooden floor.

Normally, one would screw straight down (or at a slight angle with
long screws) into the floorboards to hold the thing steady.

However, the design of this one is such that I can only get a screw in
horzintally (ie parallel to the floor) since the holes are in the
sides of the pan.

It came with no special fixing kit and I've managed to get the bidet
fixed by making a wooden bracket but cannot do the same with the WC
pan due to the bend itself.

Is there a kit I can buy or any other tips you have for getting this
damn thing to fix. I'm at my wits end with it.

Natually, I have tried silicon round the base but this is not ideal.

Thanks.
Rob


Howzabout a couple of blocks of wood screwed to the floor so that you
can then screw horizontally into them?

Dave
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:40:30 +0000, Kalico wrote:

I'm trying to fix down a new WC pan to a wooden floor.

Normally, one would screw straight down (or at a slight angle with
long screws) into the floorboards to hold the thing steady.

However, the design of this one is such that I can only get a screw in
horzintally (ie parallel to the floor) since the holes are in the
sides of the pan.

It came with no special fixing kit and I've managed to get the bidet
fixed by making a wooden bracket but cannot do the same with the WC
pan due to the bend itself.

Is there a kit I can buy or any other tips you have for getting this
damn thing to fix. I'm at my wits end with it.

Natually, I have tried silicon round the base but this is not ideal.

Is the base hollow? If so, you could fit a block of wood to the floor
then secure the pan to the wood with the "horizontal" screws.

Just a thought.

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Frank Erskine


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Frank Erskine wrote:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:40:30 +0000, Kalico wrote:

I'm trying to fix down a new WC pan to a wooden floor.

Normally, one would screw straight down (or at a slight angle with
long screws) into the floorboards to hold the thing steady.

However, the design of this one is such that I can only get a screw in
horzintally (ie parallel to the floor) since the holes are in the
sides of the pan.

It came with no special fixing kit and I've managed to get the bidet
fixed by making a wooden bracket but cannot do the same with the WC
pan due to the bend itself.

Is there a kit I can buy or any other tips you have for getting this
damn thing to fix. I'm at my wits end with it.

Natually, I have tried silicon round the base but this is not ideal.

Is the base hollow? If so, you could fit a block of wood to the floor
then secure the pan to the wood with the "horizontal" screws.

Just a thought.


He did only say it twice so I suppose we can forgive you. There's no
room for the wood.

MBQ

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However, the design of this one is such that I can only get a screw in
horzintally (ie parallel to the floor) since the holes are in the
sides of the pan.


Mine came with floor mounted brackets for the horizontal screws to go into.
Sounds like you are missing them.

Christian.



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Kalico Wrote:
I'm trying to fix down a new WC pan to a wooden floor.

Normally, one would screw straight down (or at a slight angle with
long screws) into the floorboards to hold the thing steady.

However, the design of this one is such that I can only get a screw in
horzintally (ie parallel to the floor) since the holes are in the
sides of the pan.

It came with no special fixing kit and I've managed to get the bidet
fixed by making a wooden bracket but cannot do the same with the WC
pan due to the bend itself.

Is there a kit I can buy or any other tips you have for getting this
damn thing to fix. I'm at my wits end with it.

Natually, I have tried silicon round the base but this is not ideal.

Thanks.
Rob


Your definately missing a few bits, and I mean that in the nicest way.


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"Nick H" wrote in
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Kalico Wrote:
I'm trying to fix down a new WC pan to a wooden floor.

Normally, one would screw straight down (or at a slight angle with
long screws) into the floorboards to hold the thing steady.

However, the design of this one is such that I can only get a

screw in
horzintally (ie parallel to the floor) since the holes are in the
sides of the pan.

It came with no special fixing kit and I've managed to get the

bidet
fixed by making a wooden bracket but cannot do the same with the

WC
pan due to the bend itself.

Is there a kit I can buy or any other tips you have for getting

this
damn thing to fix. I'm at my wits end with it.

Natually, I have tried silicon round the base but this is not

ideal.

Thanks.
Rob


Your definately missing a few bits, and I mean that in the nicest

way.


--
Nick H


Cut a piece of wood to fit inside the plinth of the loo, fix it to the
floor and screw into that.

AWEM


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