Hi there,

I had a new kitched fitted last year and am very happy with it - the
only thing is that the Washing machine is not integrated and spoils the
look as it sits in the middle of the other fitted units. Please see the
rough sketch -

http://tinyurl.com/bjj5w

I'd like to swap the Washing Machine with the integrated Fridge - but
have been told I may have a problem with the waste from the W/M. The
sink in the diagram has one of those waste pipes that you can connect a
Washing Machine waste to... is it practical to move the washing machine
to where the fridge is now and run the waste pipe runs along at ground
level to the sink waste? I've put the rough mesaurements of the kitchen
- it's not a big one!

Cheers

Simon

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Simon wrote:

Hi there,

I had a new kitched fitted last year and am very happy with it - the
only thing is that the Washing machine is not integrated and spoils
the look as it sits in the middle of the other fitted units. Please
see the rough sketch -

http://tinyurl.com/bjj5w

I'd like to swap the Washing Machine with the integrated Fridge - but
have been told I may have a problem with the waste from the W/M. The
sink in the diagram has one of those waste pipes that you can connect
a Washing Machine waste to... is it practical to move the washing
machine to where the fridge is now and run the waste pipe runs along
at ground level to the sink waste? I've put the rough mesaurements of
the kitchen - it's not a big one!

Cheers

Simon

Not recommended! The water - having been dumped into a vertical standpipe by
the washing machine - will have to run round the room and then flow back
*up* to sink waste level. Chances are that it won't get away fast enough,
and will gush out of the top of the standpipe. Even if it does work, you'll
have a lot of pipe full of stagnant water - which is not a good idea.

Is the sink on an outside wall? If so, can't you take the pipe out through
the wall at low level, and straight into a drain, rather than connecting to
the sink waste?
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Cheers,
Set Square
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Simon wrote:

Hi there,

I had a new kitched fitted last year and am very happy with it - the
only thing is that the Washing machine is not integrated and spoils
the look as it sits in the middle of the other fitted units. Please
see the rough sketch -

http://tinyurl.com/bjj5w

I'd like to swap the Washing Machine with the integrated Fridge - but
have been told I may have a problem with the waste from the W/M. The
sink in the diagram has one of those waste pipes that you can connect
a Washing Machine waste to... is it practical to move the washing
machine to where the fridge is now and run the waste pipe runs along
at ground level to the sink waste? I've put the rough mesaurements of
the kitchen - it's not a big one!

Cheers

Simon

Not recommended! The water - having been dumped into a vertical standpipe
by
the washing machine - will have to run round the room and then flow back
*up* to sink waste level. Chances are that it won't get away fast enough,
and will gush out of the top of the standpipe. Even if it does work,
you'll
have a lot of pipe full of stagnant water - which is not a good idea.

Is the sink on an outside wall? If so, can't you take the pipe out through
the wall at low level, and straight into a drain, rather than connecting
to
the sink waste?
--
Cheers,
Set Square
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I dont think you are allowed to discharge waste water into a rain water
drain.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
powerstation wrote:

"Set Square" wrote in message
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Is the sink on an outside wall? If so, can't you take the pipe out
through the wall at low level, and straight into a drain, rather
than connecting to
the sink waste?
--
Cheers,
Set Square
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I dont think you are allowed to discharge waste water into a rain
water drain.

Who said anything about a rainwater drain? Perhaps I wasn't explicit
enough - but I meant the same foul water gulley as the sink discharges into.
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Set Square
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
powerstation wrote:

"Set Square" wrote in message
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Is the sink on an outside wall? If so, can't you take the pipe out
through the wall at low level, and straight into a drain, rather
than connecting to
the sink waste?
--
Cheers,
Set Square
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I dont think you are allowed to discharge waste water into a rain
water drain.

Who said anything about a rainwater drain? Perhaps I wasn't explicit
enough - but I meant the same foul water gulley as the sink discharges into.

Anyway, it depends on the house. Many older houses have combined foul
water and rainwater drains - our last house 1930's semi was like this,
as is our current Victorian house.

Back to the OP, I don't think their suggestion is practical either. If
you wanted to do it you'd have to work out a way of running a proper
waste pipe around the kitchen either behind (move the cupboards out....)
or inside the cupboards. You'd have to run the water supply around as
well.

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Chris French

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In message , Set Square
writes
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
powerstation wrote:

"Set Square" wrote in message
...

Is the sink on an outside wall? If so, can't you take the pipe out
through the wall at low level, and straight into a drain, rather
than connecting to
the sink waste?
--
Cheers,
Set Square
______

I dont think you are allowed to discharge waste water into a rain
water drain.

Who said anything about a rainwater drain? Perhaps I wasn't explicit
enough - but I meant the same foul water gulley as the sink discharges
into.

Anyway, it depends on the house. Many older houses have combined foul
water and rainwater drains - our last house 1930's semi was like this, as
is our current Victorian house.

Back to the OP, I don't think their suggestion is practical either. If you
wanted to do it you'd have to work out a way of running a proper waste
pipe around the kitchen either behind (move the cupboards out....) or
inside the cupboards. You'd have to run the water supply around as well.

--
Chris French

Our dishwasher is in the position the OP wants the washing machine. The
waste standpipe (with trap) is in the void behind the cupboard next to the
machine, it then runs behind this and the next cupboard into the corner
cupboard where it goes down into the void behind the plinth and runs through
this void (use a hole saw to cut holes in the cupboard sides at lower and
lower points) under the built in gas cooker until it exits the wall and
elbows into the foul water gulley. The water supply runs right behind the
kickboards in U shaped cutouts into the plinth. It involved pulling out the
two cupborads next to the dishwasher and doing the cutouts for the waste and
mounting the standpipe and trap, the rest was done in situ.



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NikV wrote:


Our dishwasher is in the position the OP wants the washing machine.
The waste standpipe (with trap) is in the void behind the cupboard
next to the machine, it then runs behind this and the next cupboard
into the corner cupboard where it goes down into the void behind the
plinth and runs through this void (use a hole saw to cut holes in the
cupboard sides at lower and lower points) under the built in gas
cooker until it exits the wall and elbows into the foul water gulley.
The water supply runs right behind the kickboards in U shaped cutouts
into the plinth. It involved pulling out the two cupborads next to
the dishwasher and doing the cutouts for the waste and mounting the
standpipe and trap, the rest was done in situ.

That's fine - and is basically what I was suggesting that the OP should do.
The basic difference between your setup and what the OP originally wanted to
do is that yours has a continuous fall on it, and exits the house at low
level rather than being brought back up to connect into the sink trap.
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Set Square
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
NikV wrote:


Our dishwasher is in the position the OP wants the washing machine.
The waste standpipe (with trap) is in the void behind the cupboard
next to the machine, it then runs behind this and the next cupboard
into the corner cupboard where it goes down into the void behind the
plinth and runs through this void (use a hole saw to cut holes in the
cupboard sides at lower and lower points) under the built in gas
cooker until it exits the wall and elbows into the foul water gulley.
The water supply runs right behind the kickboards in U shaped cutouts
into the plinth. It involved pulling out the two cupborads next to
the dishwasher and doing the cutouts for the waste and mounting the
standpipe and trap, the rest was done in situ.

That's fine - and is basically what I was suggesting that the OP should
do.
The basic difference between your setup and what the OP originally wanted
to
do is that yours has a continuous fall on it, and exits the house at low
level rather than being brought back up to connect into the sink trap.
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Cheers,
Set Square
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Yeah sorry I mean't it to illustrate your point and also to say, it took me
about 5 hours to do the day after we moved in 5 years ago and we've had no
problems since, my original post was cut short since it was my turn to
soothe #3 'screaming beetroot' who had his 30day birthday today and I was
getting sharp pointy comments from SWMBO.

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Thanks for the advice -but the water wouldn't be dumped into a vertical
standpipe - it would exit the washine machine, go around the room and
enter into the waste pipe underneath the sink. Apart from holding an
amount of water in the waste, what's the downside? What's wrong with
water staying in the waste pipe for a day? It'll be refreshed with new
waste water the next time the washing machine is used.
Thanks

Simon