In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed, no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash regardless speed
of the bicycle and weather conditions (unlike normal dynamos!). Very
bright.

It can be used as a stand-alone light system (as a normal dynamo) on
your bike, or used as a back-up for your existed battery-powered
lights.

There are DIY kits of this dynamo.

All details and buy on-line: http://www.freelights.co.uk

In article . com,
says...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed, no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash regardless speed
of the bicycle and weather conditions (unlike normal dynamos!). Very
bright.

It can be used as a stand-alone light system (as a normal dynamo) on
your bike, or used as a back-up for your existed battery-powered
lights.

There are DIY kits of this dynamo.

Is this spam? Seems to be cropping up all over the place at the moment.

--

Hywel
http://kibo.org.uk/

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:41:46 -0000, Hywel Jenkins
wrote:

In article . com,
says...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed, no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash regardless speed
of the bicycle and weather conditions (unlike normal dynamos!). Very
bright.

It can be used as a stand-alone light system (as a normal dynamo) on
your bike, or used as a back-up for your existed battery-powered
lights.

There are DIY kits of this dynamo.

Is this spam? Seems to be cropping up all over the place at the moment.

Is it remotely legal as well?

EricP wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:41:46 -0000, Hywel Jenkins
wrote:

In article . com,
says...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed,
no friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash
regardless speed of the bicycle and weather conditions (unlike
normal dynamos!). Very bright.

It can be used as a stand-alone light system (as a normal dynamo) on
your bike, or used as a back-up for your existed battery-powered
lights.

There are DIY kits of this dynamo.

Is this spam? Seems to be cropping up all over the place at the
moment.

Is it remotely legal as well?

Did you recieve your order?
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:44:57 GMT, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
wrote:

EricP wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:41:46 -0000, Hywel Jenkins
wrote:

In article . com,
says...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed,
no friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash
regardless speed of the bicycle and weather conditions (unlike
normal dynamos!). Very bright.

It can be used as a stand-alone light system (as a normal dynamo) on
your bike, or used as a back-up for your existed battery-powered
lights.

There are DIY kits of this dynamo.

Is this spam? Seems to be cropping up all over the place at the
moment.

Is it remotely legal as well?

Did you recieve your order?

NO! Seriously ****ed off about it too!

Express Next Day. Lying crappers.

In message , EricP
writes
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:41:46 -0000, Hywel Jenkins
wrote:

In article . com,
says...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed, no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash regardless speed
of the bicycle and weather conditions (unlike normal dynamos!).

Is this spam? Seems to be cropping up all over the place at the moment.

Is it remotely legal as well?


Probably yes, if you referto the flashing ness of the lights, there has
been a recent change in the law that allows cyclists to have flashing
lights on their bike
--
Chris French

In message , Hywel
Jenkins writes
In article . com,
says...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed, no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash regardless speed
of the bicycle and weather conditions (unlike normal dynamos!). Very
bright.

It can be used as a stand-alone light system (as a normal dynamo) on
your bike, or used as a back-up for your existed battery-powered
lights.

There are DIY kits of this dynamo.

Is this spam? Seems to be cropping up all over the place at the moment.

Well, it's a commercial posting whatever

Remember kiddies, these people will steal your pocket money

--
geoff

wrote in message
ups.com...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed,
no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash regardless
speed
snip

So it totally illegal to use on the highway then...

In message ews.net,
":::Jerry::::" writes

wrote in message
oups.com...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed,
no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash regardless
speed
snip

So it totally illegal to use on the highway then...


As long as the lights put out at least 4 candela it's legal

--
Chris French

chris French wrote:

In message ews.net,
":::Jerry::::" writes

wrote in message
roups.com...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed,
no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash regardless
speed
snip

So it totally illegal to use on the highway then...

As long as the lights put out at least 4 candela it's legal

Looks to me as if there could be a significant pause between
flashes at low speeds, and even with the battery option, I think
the front light goes out when stationary.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

"chris French" wrote in message
...
In message
ews.net,
":::Jerry::::" writes

wrote in message
oups.com...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is
needed,
no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash
regardless
speed
snip

So it totally illegal to use on the highway then...


As long as the lights put out at least 4 candela it's legal


Wrong. Try reading the relevant law relating to this, (RVLR regs 18 £
24), rather than what the ignoranus fascist cyclists try and suggest.

Flashing lights may be used, but they *MUST NOT* be used on their
own, a normal *constant* output light source must be used as well.

:::Jerry:::: wrote:

Wrong. Try reading the relevant law relating to this, (RVLR regs 18 £
24), rather than what the ignoranus fascist cyclists try and suggest.

Right, actually. Try reading the The Road Vehicles Lighting (Amendment)
Regulations 2005, which came into force on 21st October:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2005/20052559.htm

Also http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=4071

Flashing lights may be used, but they *MUST NOT* be used on their
own, a normal *constant* output light source must be used as well.

That is no longer the case.

--
Andy

In message ews.net,
":::Jerry::::" writes

"chris French" wrote in message
...
In message
news.net,
":::Jerry::::" writes

wrote in message
oups.com...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is
needed,
no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash
regardless
speed
snip

So it totally illegal to use on the highway then...


As long as the lights put out at least 4 candela it's legal


Wrong.

Sorry, but you are the one who is wrong, though it is a recent change
in the law so I'll let you off....

Try reading the relevant law relating to this, (RVLR regs 18 £
24),

May I suggest you do the same.

I refer you to 'The Road Vehicles Lighting (Amendment) Regulations 2005'

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2005/20052559.htm

Which came into force 21/10/05.

rather than what the ignoranus fascist cyclists try and suggest.


This cyclist isn't ignorant or fascist, but he does know what the law is
regarding cycle lighting. If you are going to throw out stupid insults
it pays to be sure of your ground first.

Flashing lights may be used,

Actually it was illegal to fit flashing lights to cycles under the
previous regulations (though legal for the cyclist to wear them).

but they *MUST NOT* be used on their
own, a normal *constant* output light source must be used as well.


The above Amendment to the RVLR now makes flashing lights BY THEMSELVES
legal on cycles. At the moment the only requirements are that the
flashing lights have brightness of at least 4 candela and flash evenly
between 1 and 4 times second. This is probably an interim measure, and
presumably BS6102/3 will be amended in do course (there are oddities,
like if the light has steady mode it must meet the more stringent
requirements of BS6102/3)

http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=4071

Seems to give a good summary of the current law re cycle lighting
regulations

whether or not the light in question that started this thread meets the
requirements I've no idea, I can imagine it may well not.
--
Chris French

"chris French" wrote in message
...
In message
ews.net,
snip

This cyclist isn't ignorant or fascist, but he does know what the
law is
regarding cycle lighting. If you are going to throw out stupid
insults
it pays to be sure of your ground first.

Ok, you might not be a fascist but you are, IMO, ignorant and a
cretin.

As I said in another message, lunatics have been place in charge of
their asylum.

wrote in message
ups.com...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed, no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash regardless speed
of the bicycle and weather conditions (unlike normal dynamos!). Very
bright.

It can be used as a stand-alone light system (as a normal dynamo) on
your bike, or used as a back-up for your existed battery-powered
lights.

There are DIY kits of this dynamo.

All details and buy on-line: http://www.freelights.co.uk


This bits impressive! "No drag can be detected in this device; it is not a
traditional dynamo. With this innovative, electrical generating system you
will not feel any extra weight when you are cycling. "

No drag = no power transfer = no electrical power generated; QED

Perpetual motion? I recall hub dynamos which didn't rely on friction
drive.

In article ,
says...

wrote in message
ups.com...
In this new generation bicycle light system, no battery is needed, no
friction on any parts of the bicycle. The lights flash regardless speed
of the bicycle and weather conditions (unlike normal dynamos!). Very
bright.

It can be used as a stand-alone light system (as a normal dynamo) on
your bike, or used as a back-up for your existed battery-powered
lights.

There are DIY kits of this dynamo.

All details and buy on-line: http://www.freelights.co.uk


This bits impressive! "No drag can be detected in this device; it is not a
traditional dynamo. With this innovative, electrical generating system you
will not feel any extra weight when you are cycling. "

No drag = no power transfer = no electrical power generated; QED

Perpetual motion? I recall hub dynamos which didn't rely on friction
drive.

Unfortunately they didn't put out enough power, especially at low speed.
You could see the lamps flicker as they turned :-)
Bottom-bracket mounted dynamos are pretty good as they don't scrub like
the sidewall-driven ones can, but they can be prone to slipping and/or
rapid wear because the back tyre dumps loads of crap on them. You can
get toothed-belt drive dynamos that are driven by a pulley attached to
the side of the hub. A properly set up high-quality sidewall-driven
dynamo can still work pretty well anyway.

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:26:37 -0000, Rob Morley
wrote:

Perpetual motion? I recall hub dynamos which didn't rely on friction
drive.

Unfortunately they didn't put out enough power, especially at low speed.
You could see the lamps flicker as they turned :-)
Bottom-bracket mounted dynamos are pretty good as they don't scrub like
the sidewall-driven ones can, but they can be prone to slipping and/or
rapid wear because the back tyre dumps loads of crap on them. You can
get toothed-belt drive dynamos that are driven by a pulley attached to
the side of the hub. A properly set up high-quality sidewall-driven
dynamo can still work pretty well anyway.

Posted on another group:

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/Schmidt-Lumotec.asp

cheers,
Pete.

"Pete C" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:26:37 -0000, Rob Morley
wrote:

Perpetual motion? I recall hub dynamos which didn't rely on friction
drive.

Unfortunately they didn't put out enough power, especially at low speed.
You could see the lamps flicker as they turned :-)
Bottom-bracket mounted dynamos are pretty good as they don't scrub like
the sidewall-driven ones can, but they can be prone to slipping and/or
rapid wear because the back tyre dumps loads of crap on them. You can
get toothed-belt drive dynamos that are driven by a pulley attached to
the side of the hub. A properly set up high-quality sidewall-driven
dynamo can still work pretty well anyway.

Posted on another group:

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/Schmidt-Lumotec.asp

cheers,
Pete.

Just a tad expensive though!