I am taking down a garden wall which is about 21ft long and 5ft high.

What size skip will I need?


2, 3, 4, 5 Tonne ?

jawa wrote:
I am taking down a garden wall which is about 21ft long and 5ft high.

What size skip will I need?


2, 3, 4, 5 Tonne ?



Its the volume that's important...

Work out the volume 6.3m * 1.5m * (say) 0.1m = 1 cubic meter approx.

Allow for the fact that it won't be as compact as where it is now. Say
double that to 2m3.

Ask skip co. for 2 cubic meter capacity.

Or get a HI-AB to pick it up (which will take a lot more and can be
cheaper for rubble).

HTH,

Alex.

"jawa" wrote in message
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I am taking down a garden wall which is about 21ft long and 5ft high.

What size skip will I need?


2, 3, 4, 5 Tonne ?

A single brick wall that size with no piers would be about 2 tonnes. Add
piers and other crap and 3-4 tonnes would be safe, I guess. If it's double
brick with piers then 5 tonnes might be too small. Unfortunately brick
doesn't pack well in skips if you just chuck it in and it will be the volume
when skipped that will be the determining factor I suspect.

Bob Mannix

Ask skip co. for 2 cubic meter capacity.

And tell them it is pure hardcore, too, for the best price. If you have a
suitable tow vehicle, you may find it cheaper to hire/borrow a trailer and
take a trip or two to your local tip. Mine (Reading) even lets you jump the
queue if you've only got hardcore.

Christian.

jawa wrote:
I am taking down a garden wall which is about 21ft long and 5ft high.

What size skip will I need?


2, 3, 4, 5 Tonne ?

Go for a 3 ton, you can get rid of some crap you have lying around the
house as well. :-)

Hmmm.. local skip companies here do 2,4,6,8,10,12 yard skips. The
'normal' builder's skip you see about is the 6 yard version. My 24m x 5
block high block wall plus foundations just took most of an 8 yard
skip....

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:40:26 +0100, "Christian McArdle"
wrote:

| Ask skip co. for 2 cubic meter capacity.
|
| And tell them it is pure hardcore, too, for the best price. If you have a
| suitable tow vehicle, you may find it cheaper to hire/borrow a trailer and
| take a trip or two to your local tip. Mine (Reading) even lets you jump the
| queue if you've only got hardcore.

Moving a ton of hardcore from a trailer to the huge container at the
council tip is *very* hard work. I have done it :-(

--
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Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:40:26 +0100, "Christian McArdle"
wrote:

| Ask skip co. for 2 cubic meter capacity.
|
| And tell them it is pure hardcore, too, for the best price. If you have a
| suitable tow vehicle, you may find it cheaper to hire/borrow a trailer and
| take a trip or two to your local tip. Mine (Reading) even lets you jump the
| queue if you've only got hardcore.

Moving a ton of hardcore from a trailer to the huge container at the
council tip is *very* hard work. I have done it :-(


So have I/we...

Unless you do it a bit at a time, all the plaster was removed from my
house by hand in rubbles sacks and hanballed into the back of the
missuses Ford KA and disposed of at the local tip.

She could run boot loads to the tip faster than I could get it off the
wall you see!

A HI-AB is easiest as you don't even need to lift it into a skip, 3
weeks ago I had 9 tons of earth, concrete and stone removed that way for
less than a midi-skip! Need an accessible spot to plonk it all though
until load up.

Alex.

AlexW wrote:
snip

A HI-AB is easiest as you don't even need to lift it into a skip, 3
weeks ago I had 9 tons of earth, concrete and stone removed that way for
less than a midi-skip! Need an accessible spot to plonk it all though
until load up.


Still lost about 9lbs weight just doing the digging for this though.
Soul destroying ... but not as much as the treadmill/stepper at the Gym ;-)

Alex.

Moving a ton of hardcore from a trailer to the huge container at the
council tip is *very* hard work. I have done it :-(

Well, I've just shifted 5 tonnes from my back garden to the tip. No rear
access, so I had to carry it through the house in buckets (convoluted route,
no chance of a wheelbarrow).

Luckily, the hardcore section at the tip is separate from the main part. No
queue. No lifting into the containers, just chuck it on the ground. Once or
twice a day, a bulldozer comes along and shifts it into a big tidy pile. It
did take 12 trips, though, including several loads of non-hardcore, garden
waste and general. My trailer's big, but unbraked, so you can't exactly fill
it with rubble before taking it away, although some of the cleaner stuff
went in the back of the van.

Unloading the rubble at the tip was light relief, compared to getting it
from the garden. (About a tonne of it was an old garden path that needed
smashing up with Mr Sledge as well).

Christian.

Christian McArdle wrote:
Moving a ton of hardcore from a trailer to the huge container at the
council tip is *very* hard work. I have done it :-(


Well, I've just shifted 5 tonnes from my back garden to the tip. No rear
access, so I had to carry it through the house in buckets (convoluted route,
no chance of a wheelbarrow).

Luckily, the hardcore section at the tip is separate from the main part. No
queue. No lifting into the containers, just chuck it on the ground. Once or
twice a day, a bulldozer comes along and shifts it into a big tidy pile. It
did take 12 trips, though, including several loads of non-hardcore, garden
waste and general. My trailer's big, but unbraked, so you can't exactly fill
it with rubble before taking it away, although some of the cleaner stuff
went in the back of the van.

Unloading the rubble at the tip was light relief, compared to getting it
from the garden. (About a tonne of it was an old garden path that needed
smashing up with Mr Sledge as well).

Christian.



Ouch bucketing hurts dunnit!

My approx 3-4 tons of earth 2 years ago wen't through the house to the
front 2 buckets at a time to "the pile". I bottled out of tipping it
myself and called called the HI-AB man for the n'th time.

Luckily carpets (and doors had not gone in yet!). Also the five or six
buckets destroyed were only 99p each.

If its any consolation the earth was full of stones and huge tree roots
and was a sod (pun not intended) to dig out in the first place. Mr Axe
and Mr Pick and Rusty the Saw needed on occasion!

Alex.

Luckily carpets (and doors had not gone in yet!). Also the five or six
buckets destroyed were only 99p each.

You should be more careful! I managed to only write off one B&Q "basket". I
wish I'd noticed that I'd done so before using it to collect the waste water
when fixing the sink U-bend, though.

If its any consolation the earth was full of stones and huge tree roots
and was a sod (pun not intended) to dig out in the first place. Mr Axe
and Mr Pick and Rusty the Saw needed on occasion!

Oh yes. The garden waste including a couple of tree stumps. Great fun
digging those out by hand. At least that was last year, though. (The piles
of rubble/waste had been getting larger over time...)

Christian.

Christian McArdle wrote:
Luckily carpets (and doors had not gone in yet!). Also the five or six
buckets destroyed were only 99p each.


You should be more careful! I managed to only write off one B&Q "basket". I
wish I'd noticed that I'd done so before using it to collect the waste water
when fixing the sink U-bend, though.


Yes mine were orange ones too, picked as the had had some prior abuse.


If its any consolation the earth was full of stones and huge tree roots
and was a sod (pun not intended) to dig out in the first place. Mr Axe
and Mr Pick and Rusty the Saw needed on occasion!


Oh yes. The garden waste including a couple of tree stumps. Great fun
digging those out by hand. At least that was last year, though. (The piles
of rubble/waste had been getting larger over time...)

Christian.


I hate that kind of digging!

Alex.

Christian McArdle wrote:
Luckily carpets (and doors had not gone in yet!). Also the five or
six buckets destroyed were only 99p each.

You should be more careful! I managed to only write off one B&Q
"basket". I wish I'd noticed that I'd done so before using it to
collect the waste water when fixing the sink U-bend, though.

If its any consolation the earth was full of stones and huge tree
roots and was a sod (pun not intended) to dig out in the first
place. Mr Axe and Mr Pick and Rusty the Saw needed on occasion!

Oh yes. The garden waste including a couple of tree stumps. Great fun
digging those out by hand. At least that was last year, though. (The
piles of rubble/waste had been getting larger over time...)

Christian.

Hehe! them supermarket trollys come in handy when you cant use a
wheelbarrow.

Hehe! them supermarket trollys come in handy when you cant use a
wheelbarrow.

No chance of getting a trolley through the house. Believe me. It was touch
and go getting a person carrying two buckets!

Christian.

Bob Mannix wrote:

A single brick wall that size with no piers would be about 2 tonnes. Add
piers and other crap and 3-4 tonnes would be safe, I guess. If it's double
brick with piers then 5 tonnes might be too small. Unfortunately brick
doesn't pack well in skips if you just chuck it in and it will be the volume
when skipped that will be the determining factor I suspect.

Reminds me of when I once worked temporarily as a mini-skip truck
driver, many moons ago... once I had to collect a skip, apparently
loaded with rubble, but when I connected the chains and tried to lift
the thing it wouldn't even budge. It was only the fact that the van
stilts were dissapearing into the ground under the strain that I knew
the lifting gear definitely hadn't failed on me. "What exactly have you
got in here?" "Oh, just rubble and bricks" Anyway the punter was very
unhappy that he had to remove a fairly large amount of his crud, but was
a bit sheepish once the top layer of loose rubble had been removed, to
reveal that almost the entire skip was neatly packed with bricks, almost
like a solid block of dry-stone wall! God knows what it must have weighed!

David

Lobster wrote:

a bit sheepish once the top layer of loose rubble had been removed, to
reveal that almost the entire skip was neatly packed with bricks, almost
like a solid block of dry-stone wall! God knows what it must have weighed!

One of our skip drivers recounted a tale of collecting a very heavy
skip. He managed to get it up on the wagon, and took it to empty. What
he did not know was that the top stuff was loose rubble etc, but the
bottom 2/3rds had been filled with spare redimix which had then set!

As he tipped it, the loose stuff all fell out, but the concrete stayed
put. This caused the balance of the skip to change and it tipped back
toward the lorry again. The jib kept lifting however and got it to a
point well past the vertical when it again reached the balance point and
flipped back over. However it did so with such force that it actually
yanked the whole lorry straight over the edge and into the pit.

Fortunately he had the presence of mind to duck as the saw the cab door
he had left open approaching him at high speed!


--
Cheers,

John.

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