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indian sandstone
I am wanting to put a natural floor down over wet underfloor heating, I
originaly want york flagstone, but this is out of the budget, I have seen advertised on the net indian sandstone which they say looks like york. What I woul like to know, has anybody seen these and are they like york?, is it suitable for indoor use over underfloor heating?, basicaly is it worth going for or should I go for something else? any suggestions around £15 per sqM, need approx. 46 sqM Thanks |
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What I woul like to know, has anybody seen these and are they like york? Post the link - I bought a slate alternative for outdoors recently - really pleased wiith it but I'm sure the seller told me THAT was Indian sandstone. Well my stuff looked just like slate, not York flags. Cheers KB, Oxford |
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Yekal wrote:
I am wanting to put a natural floor down over wet underfloor heating, I originaly want york flagstone, but this is out of the budget, I have seen advertised on the net indian sandstone which they say looks like york. What I woul like to know, has anybody seen these and are they like york?, is it suitable for indoor use over underfloor heating?, basicaly is it worth going for or should I go for something else? any suggestions around £15 per sqM, need approx. 46 sqM Thanks Yes, yes, yes, But 15 a square is optimistic. I reckon £50-100 a square, laid, sealed, grouted etc. I paid about 23 a meter for raw mixed size flags, on a 50 sq meter puyrcahse. Ive used it outside, and teh stuff I used was possibly too thuick and too uneven to yuse inside...YMMV. The material itself is very useable, but think about stain stopping as well in a kitchen. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Yekal wrote: I am wanting to put a natural floor down over wet underfloor heating, I originaly want york flagstone, but this is out of the budget, I have seen advertised on the net indian sandstone which they say looks like york. What I woul like to know, has anybody seen these and are they like york?, is it suitable for indoor use over underfloor heating?, basicaly is it worth going for or should I go for something else? any suggestions around £15 per sqM, need approx. 46 sqM Thanks Yes, yes, yes, But 15 a square is optimistic. I reckon £50-100 a square, laid, sealed, grouted etc. I paid about 23 a meter for raw mixed size flags, on a 50 sq meter puyrcahse. Ive used it outside, and teh stuff I used was possibly too thuick and too uneven to yuse inside...YMMV. The material itself is very useable, but think about stain stopping as well in a kitchen. I have used inside and outside, and for copings too! It's great stuff, last lot I got (last month) was £16+vat per m2 locally in cheshire (15m2 purchase), its available a bit cheaper if you shop around, but then the delivery may be more. You really need to get the best stones for indoors and it will raise the level of floor by min of 60mm so you're into new skirts and arcs etc. It's difficult to get a straight edge at the wall so you may have to live with gaps under the skirts or take the time to scribe them to the floor. For under floor heaitng I guess that you will need a full mortar bed which means you'll be mixing a lot of mortar to lay them on. They look good indoors, York-ish effect, we get positive comments from visitors often. But seal well, esp in kitchen as TNP suggested - its worth the effort. We missed a trick in one room and will be doing the whole thing again! HTH, Alex |
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AlexW wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: Yekal wrote: I am wanting to put a natural floor down over wet underfloor heating, I originaly want york flagstone, but this is out of the budget, I have seen advertised on the net indian sandstone which they say looks like york. What I woul like to know, has anybody seen these and are they like york?, is it suitable for indoor use over underfloor heating?, basicaly is it worth going for or should I go for something else? any suggestions around £15 per sqM, need approx. 46 sqM Thanks Yes, yes, yes, But 15 a square is optimistic. I reckon £50-100 a square, laid, sealed, grouted etc. I paid about 23 a meter for raw mixed size flags, on a 50 sq meter puyrcahse. Ive used it outside, and teh stuff I used was possibly too thuick and too uneven to yuse inside...YMMV. The material itself is very useable, but think about stain stopping as well in a kitchen. I have used inside and outside, and for copings too! It's great stuff, last lot I got (last month) was £16+vat per m2 locally in cheshire (15m2 purchase), its available a bit cheaper if you shop around, but then the delivery may be more. You really need to get the best stones for indoors and it will raise the level of floor by min of 60mm so you're into new skirts and arcs etc. It's difficult to get a straight edge at the wall so you may have to live with gaps under the skirts or take the time to scribe them to the floor. For under floor heaitng I guess that you will need a full mortar bed which means you'll be mixing a lot of mortar to lay them on. No,m use tile cement designed for stone - ardurit is the best. Full bed definitely recommended tho - no dot and dab or you will have loose flags. They look good indoors, York-ish effect, we get positive comments from visitors often. But seal well, esp in kitchen as TNP suggested - its worth the effort. We missed a trick in one room and will be doing the whole thing again! HTH, Alex |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
AlexW wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: Yekal wrote: I am wanting to put a natural floor down over wet underfloor heating, I originaly want york flagstone, but this is out of the budget, I have seen advertised on the net indian sandstone which they say looks like york. What I woul like to know, has anybody seen these and are they like york?, is it suitable for indoor use over underfloor heating?, basicaly is it worth going for or should I go for something else? any suggestions around £15 per sqM, need approx. 46 sqM Thanks snip For under floor heaitng I guess that you will need a full mortar bed which means you'll be mixing a lot of mortar to lay them on. No,m use tile cement designed for stone - ardurit is the best. Full bed definitely recommended tho - no dot and dab or you will have loose flags. Disagree... If you're talking indian sandstone flags dot and dab, on 5:1 sharp/gritsand to cement will work indoors once pointed they won't wobble ... mine have been down for over 2 years without single a problem. For underfloor heating, or outdoors a full bed of whatever is required (I have some dabbed flags and full beds outdoors and one or two have had wobbles and/or sound hollow). I recon that for for 46 m2 of flags your into around 1.5m3 of bedding .... how pricey is ardurit? snip HTH, Alex |
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AlexW wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: AlexW wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: Yekal wrote: I am wanting to put a natural floor down over wet underfloor heating, I originaly want york flagstone, but this is out of the budget, I have seen advertised on the net indian sandstone which they say looks like york. What I woul like to know, has anybody seen these and are they like york?, is it suitable for indoor use over underfloor heating?, basicaly is it worth going for or should I go for something else? any suggestions around £15 per sqM, need approx. 46 sqM Thanks snip For under floor heaitng I guess that you will need a full mortar bed which means you'll be mixing a lot of mortar to lay them on. No,m use tile cement designed for stone - ardurit is the best. Full bed definitely recommended tho - no dot and dab or you will have loose flags. Disagree... If you're talking indian sandstone flags dot and dab, on 5:1 sharp/gritsand to cement will work indoors once pointed they won't wobble ... mine have been down for over 2 years without single a problem. For underfloor heating, or outdoors a full bed of whatever is required (I have some dabbed flags and full beds outdoors and one or two have had wobbles and/or sound hollow). I recon that for for 46 m2 of flags your into around 1.5m3 of bedding ... how pricey is ardurit? Not a lot more than sand/cement. snip HTH, Alex |
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AlexW wrote:
I recon that for for 46 m2 of flags your into around 1.5m3 of bedding ... how pricey is ardurit? not a lot more Oh, and that's because you can use it in THINNER layers than cement - down to about 5mm, which mortar is not too good at. I'd use sand/cement on thick beds 20-25mm, but if you have a height problem, you don't want to do that. |
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I bought around 15m2 of mixed Indian brown sandstone cobbles from Rock
Unique, who also supplies flags in many sizes: http://www.rock-unique.com/htmls/raj...mixedBrownCobs Gorgeous stuff, excellent prices, and great company to deal with. Ordered on Thursday July 28, and delivered from London to Edinburgh on Monday Aug 1. The delivery set me back £135 in addition to the cost of the cobbles, however it still was far cheaper than anything I found locally. Local suppliers said 2-4 weeks delivery for similar stuff, nevermind having to buy "full packs" from for example Keyline!!! I'll be happy to drop you a picture of my project if you like (still have a bit to go though :-) . |
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Thanks all that has given me some good guidence, height at the moment is no
problem, as this is a convertion of an old stone building. |
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