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I want to put an ensuite in my bedroom and have it as a wet room rather than put a shower tray in.
Trouble is I haven't got a clue where to start. Can't afford to get someone else in to do it, and have got enough time on my hands to do it myself.
Ive got a few questions..1/ What do I lay as a base? How do I get the waste out under the floor boards with out going through the joists. How do I connect the waste.?
3/ Also I need a masorater. Can I take the waste from this into the loft and back down.? The masorater is higher than the waste for the wet room. how does this work?
Any way that should be enough for you for now. If you want any more questions please feel free to ask, Ive got loads for you.
Hope you can help me!

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stationarybox wrote:
I want to put an ensuite in my bedroom and have it as a wet room rather
than put a shower tray in.
Trouble is I haven't got a clue where to start. Can't afford to get
someone else in to do it, and have got enough time on my hands to do it
myself.
Ive got a few questions..1/ What do a lay as a base? How do I get the
waste out under the floor boards with out going through the joists. How
do I connect the waste.?


try looking at
http://www.wedi.co.uk/fundo.htm

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stationarybox wrote:
I want to put an ensuite in my bedroom and have it as a wet room rather
than put a shower tray in.
Trouble is I haven't got a clue where to start. Can't afford to get
someone else in to do it, and have got enough time on my hands to do it
myself.
Ive got a few questions..1/ What do a lay as a base?


I have just completed my wet room project, well all but the shower!
and its fantastic. You will get a few people on the forum who are very
anti wetrooms but I beleive this is because they have not experienced a
correctly designed one. I won't go into detail about this but instead
will answer the questions I can.

1. You can buy complete wetroom systems which contain a shower deck
with the correct falls built in to make sure the water flows into the
drain. This saves messing aroun with getting the floor levels correct.
The kit I used contains a bitumen based membrane which enables you to
water proof everything. Basically these are the high level steps if you
have floorboards.

1. Mark out the shower tray base on the floor
2. Cut away the floorboards
3. Fit shower tray flush with flooring
4. apply primer
5. apply membrane
6. apply jointing compound along joints
7. Lay UFH
6. Tile over

How do I get the
waste out under the floor boards with out going through the joists.


With great difficulty, this was the hardest part. You will likely have
to go through the joists. You may be able to minimise this though
depending on which direction your joists run and where your soil pipe
will be located.

Always try and minimse the area you remove from the joists as this will
weaken them. There are some regulations around this that I did my best
to stick too but I dont recall them at this moment in time. I also had
some problems getting the correct fall for the waste but everything is
working fine at the moment and waste is running away freely.


How
do I connect the waste.?


What waste are you talking about, the shower waste? If so the waste
pipe attaches to the shower trap which is also included with some kits
together with drain grate which is installed flush to the tiles.
The waste pipe should run to the soil stack. In my setup I have the
shower waste pipe running into the soil stack and I have Teed into this
for the sink waste. The toilet waste is seperate of course.

3/ Also I need a masorater. Can I take the waste from this into the
loft and back down.? The masorater is higher than the waste for the wet
room. how does this work?


Sorry cant help you here.

If you want the name of the company I got my kit from let me know. I
cant recall that either at this moment! memory is shot.........

HTH

Cheers

Richard

Any way that should be enough for you for now. If you want any more
questions please feel free to ask, Ive got loads for you.
Hope you can help me!


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stationarybox wrote:
I want to put an ensuite in my bedroom and have it as a wet room rather
than put a shower tray in.
Trouble is I haven't got a clue where to start. Can't afford to get
someone else in to do it, and have got enough time on my hands to do it
myself.
Ive got a few questions..1/ What do a lay as a base?


I have just completed my wet room project, well all but the shower!
and its fantastic. You will get a few people on the forum who are very
anti wetrooms but I beleive this is because they have not experienced a
correctly designed one. I won't go into detail about this but instead
will answer the questions I can.

1. You can buy complete wetroom systems which contain a shower deck
with the correct falls built in to make sure the water flows into the
drain. This saves messing aroun with getting the floor levels correct.
The kit I used contains a bitumen based membrane which enables you to
water proof everything. Basically these are the high level steps if you
have floorboards.

1. Mark out the shower tray base on the floor
2. Cut away the floorboards
3. Fit shower tray flush with flooring
4. apply primer
5. apply membrane
6. apply jointing compound along joints
7. Lay UFH
6. Tile over

How do I get the
waste out under the floor boards with out going through the joists.


With great difficulty, this was the hardest part. You will likely have
to go through the joists. You may be able to minimise this though
depending on which direction your joists run and where your soil pipe
will be located.

Always try and minimse the area you remove from the joists as this will
weaken them. There are some regulations around this that I did my best
to stick too but I dont recall them at this moment in time. I also had
some problems getting the correct fall for the waste but everything is
working fine at the moment and waste is running away freely.


How
do I connect the waste.?


What waste are you talking about, the shower waste? If so the waste
pipe attaches to the shower trap which is also included with some kits
together with drain grate which is installed flush to the tiles.
The waste pipe should run to the soil stack. In my setup I have the
shower waste pipe running into the soil stack and I have Teed into this
for the sink waste. The toilet waste is seperate of course.

3/ Also I need a masorater. Can I take the waste from this into the
loft and back down.? The masorater is higher than the waste for the wet
room. how does this work?


Sorry cant help you here.

If you want the name of the company I got my kit from let me know. I
cant recall that either at this moment! memory is shot.........

HTH

Cheers

Richard

Any way that should be enough for you for now. If you want any more
questions please feel free to ask, Ive got loads for you.
Hope you can help me!


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well I would be interested in recieving your suppliers details.
The shower waste is what I was enquiring about. I think you have answered my question actually. What I wondered is how you attach the outlet to the waste pipe when the wet room floor disallows access under the floor? But I think what you were saying is that you ensure that the waste pipe and the trap are placed directly under the hole in the floor and the when the floor is down simply screw in the outlet into the trap from above. Is this right?
Thanks for your advice so far.
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stationarybox wrote:-
I want to put an ensuite in my bedroom and have it as a wet room
rather
than put a shower tray in.
Trouble is I haven't got a clue where to start. Can't afford to get
someone else in to do it, and have got enough time on my hands to do
it
myself.
Ive got a few questions..1/ What do a lay as a base?-

I have just completed my wet room project, well all but the shower!
and its fantastic. You will get a few people on the forum who are very
anti wetrooms but I beleive this is because they have not experienced
a
correctly designed one. I won't go into detail about this but instead
will answer the questions I can.

1. You can buy complete wetroom systems which contain a shower deck
with the correct falls built in to make sure the water flows into the
drain. This saves messing aroun with getting the floor levels correct.
The kit I used contains a bitumen based membrane which enables you to
water proof everything. Basically these are the high level steps if
you
have floorboards.

1. Mark out the shower tray base on the floor
2. Cut away the floorboards
3. Fit shower tray flush with flooring
4. apply primer
5. apply membrane
6. apply jointing compound along joints
7. Lay UFH
6. Tile over

How do I get the-
waste out under the floor boards with out going through the joists.-

With great difficulty, this was the hardest part. You will likely have
to go through the joists. You may be able to minimise this though
depending on which direction your joists run and where your soil pipe
will be located.

Always try and minimse the area you remove from the joists as this
will
weaken them. There are some regulations around this that I did my best
to stick too but I dont recall them at this moment in time. I also had
some problems getting the correct fall for the waste but everything is
working fine at the moment and waste is running away freely.


How-
do I connect the waste.?-

What waste are you talking about, the shower waste? If so the waste
pipe attaches to the shower trap which is also included with some kits
together with drain grate which is installed flush to the tiles.
The waste pipe should run to the soil stack. In my setup I have the
shower waste pipe running into the soil stack and I have Teed into
this
for the sink waste. The toilet waste is seperate of course.
-
3/ Also I need a masorater. Can I take the waste from this into the
loft and back down.? The masorater is higher than the waste for the
wet
room. how does this work?-

Sorry cant help you here.

If you want the name of the company I got my kit from let me know. I
cant recall that either at this moment! memory is shot.........

HTH

Cheers

Richard
-
Any way that should be enough for you for now. If you want any more
questions please feel free to ask, Ive got loads for you.
Hope you can help me!


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stationarybox-


well I would be interested in recieving your suppliers details.


Suppliers details:

CCL Speacialist Supplies
01256 763100

Very nice people too.

The shower waste is what I was enquiring about. I think you have
answered my question actually. What I wondered is how you attach the
outlet to the waste pipe when the wet room floor disallows access under
the floor? But I think what you were saying is that you ensure that the
waste pipe and the trap are placed directly under the hole in the floor
and the when the floor is down simply screw in the outlet into the trap
from above. Is this right?


Correct, the kit comes supplied with a good DIY manual and I beleive
they have a DVD now too, which I just apparently missed.



Thanks for your advice so far.


No problem and good luck.

Cheers

Richard



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