So unless there's another fool out there

I can confirm that dIMM is a late middle aged woman with glasses

What an ugly tank

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"raden" wrote in message
...

So unless there's another fool out there

I can confirm that dIMM is a late middle aged woman with glasses

What an ugly tank

Maxie, it is clear you have no taste at all. You think BMWs are cool, when
even pillocks like Clarkson would not allow in on the cool board at all, not
even to be hot.

In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
You think BMWs are cool, when even pillocks like Clarkson would not
allow in on the cool board at all, not even to be hot.

So you value the opinion of someone you consider a pillock?

Perhaps that's why you think people should take advice from you?

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:

You think BMWs are cool, when even pillocks like Clarkson would not
allow in on the cool board at all, not even to be hot.

So you value the opinion of someone you consider a pillock?

If a pillock say that what do normal peopel think!

snip senile babble

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 18:12:45 GMT, raden wrote:


So unless there's another fool out there

I can confirm that dIMM is a late middle aged woman with glasses

What an ugly tank


Which? dIMM, the woman or the "car"?



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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 18:12:45 GMT, raden wrote:


So unless there's another fool out there

I can confirm that dIMM is a late middle aged woman with glasses

What an ugly tank


Which? dIMM, the woman or the "car"?

The Oriental enchantress of course.




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In message , Andy Hall
writes
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 18:12:45 GMT, raden wrote:


So unless there's another fool out there

I can confirm that dIMM is a late middle aged woman with glasses

What an ugly tank


Which? dIMM, the woman or the "car"?

The ambiguity was intentional - I leave it up to you imagine

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Ok, what has a Prius got to do with DIY ?

Apart from the fact that cars/technology like it may actually help save
this world from it's current self destruction due to the current
occupant's obsession with 1mpg gas guzzling 4x4's just used to go down
to the shop round the corner ?

no flames, please - they create carbon dioxide.

raden wrote:

So unless there's another fool out there

I can confirm that dIMM is a late middle aged woman with glasses

What an ugly tank

"Ian Cornish" "icornish at talk21 dot com" wrote in message
...

Ok, what has a Prius got to do with DIY ?

They are jealous of people with a Prius.

Apart from the fact that cars/technology like it may actually help save
this world from it's current self destruction due to the current
occupant's obsession with 1mpg gas guzzling 4x4's just used to go down
to the shop round the corner ?

Lord Hall has one of those and shower which uses more water than what an
African village uses in a week.

In message , Ian Cornish
"icornish at talk21 dot writes
Ok, what has a Prius got to do with DIY ?

Nothing, why ?

Except that it accounts for a goodly proportion of posts here ATM



Apart from the fact that cars/technology like it may actually help save
this world from it's current self destruction due to the current
occupant's obsession with 1mpg gas guzzling 4x4's just used to go down
to the shop round the corner ?

no flames, please - they create carbon dioxide.

raden wrote:
So unless there's another fool out there
I can confirm that dIMM is a late middle aged woman with glasses
What an ugly tank


--
geoff

"Ian Cornish" "icornish at talk21 dot com" wrote in message
...
Ok, what has a Prius got to do with DIY ?

Apart from the fact that cars/technology like it may actually help save
this world from it's current self destruction due to the current
occupant's obsession with 1mpg gas guzzling 4x4's just used to go down
to the shop round the corner ?

no flames, please - they create carbon dioxide.

The Toyota Highlander Hybrid. 0-60 in 7.3 secs, if you are interested in
that sort of childishness.
http://www.dynamocomputers.com/~wing...chu/HyHigh.pdf

29mpg - who are they trying to fool that this is environmentally
friendly?

The idea with hybrid cars is supposed to be that they are more fuel
efficient. My car can manage 65mpg happily with a normal engine - and
still stays above 50mpg with 4 adults onboard and a shedload of stuff
in the back (it's an estate).

"Matt Beard" wrote in message
oups.com...

29mpg - who are they trying to fool that this is environmentally
friendly?

The senile one makes things up. It does over 50mpg.

If you follow the link that you supplied for the specs of the Toyota
Highlander Hybrid and look about half way down page 6 (just above where
it says "Note: Highlander Hybrid in 2WD or 4WD-i is not designed to be
driven off-road") you will see the official fuel consumtion figures:

2WD:
City 33mpg
Freeway 28mpg
Combined 30mpg

4WD-i
City 31mpg
Freeway 27mpg
Combined 29mpg

"Matt Beard" wrote in message
oups.com...

29mpg - who are they trying to fool that this is environmentally
friendly?

Compared to most US 4x4s the Highlander is. It also reduces emissions
drastically in built up areas which is one of the prime aims. Keeps the
filth away from the lungs of millions..

Matt Beard wrote:

29mpg - who are they trying to fool that this is environmentally
friendly?

The idea with hybrid cars is supposed to be that they are more fuel
efficient. My car can manage 65mpg happily with a normal engine - and
still stays above 50mpg with 4 adults onboard and a shedload of stuff
in the back (it's an estate).

Apparently there is a class action suit against Toyata in the US now on
the grounds that real users are finding the 60+ mpg advertising claims
unachievable in real world conditions.


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"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
Matt Beard wrote:

29mpg - who are they trying to fool that this is environmentally
friendly?

The idea with hybrid cars is supposed to be that they are more fuel
efficient. My car can manage 65mpg happily with a normal engine - and
still stays above 50mpg with 4 adults onboard and a shedload of stuff
in the back (it's an estate).

Apparently there is a class action suit against Toyata in the US now on
the grounds that real users are finding the 60+ mpg advertising claims
unachievable in real world conditions.

Auto Expresses long term Prius returned 65mpg. So that suit will fail.
Probably taken up by a competitor in false clothing. A common thing in the
USA.

In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Apparently there is a class action suit against Toyata in the US now on
the grounds that real users are finding the 60+ mpg advertising claims
unachievable in real world conditions.

Yup. Autocar managed 43 mpg in their touring test. A BMW 320d - much
faster in every way - 48.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article .com,
Matt Beard wrote:
29mpg - who are they trying to fool that this is environmentally
friendly?

The idea with hybrid cars is supposed to be that they are more fuel
efficient.

If that was the main reason, they'd use a diesel, not petrol engine.

But diesels ain't popular in the US - its main market. Its real purpose is
low emissions in towns with heavy traffic were it can run several miles on
batteries alone producing zero emissions at that point in time. Of course
those batteries then need to be recharged by the petrol engine producing
just as much emissions as any other similarly sized car, simply shifting
the place that those emissions occur. And with poorer than average CO
emissions when touring (its mpg then is poor) it does nothing to save the
planet. ;-)

The latest incarnation of this technology from Toyota is the Lexus RX400H
- a 'chelsea tractor' type vehicle. This certainly is a class leader in
fuel efficiency although it's gone back to a conventional V-6 petrol
engine. Not that it's difficult to be a class leader here as no vehicle of
this type is ever good due to heavy weight and lossy trasmissions for off
road use. Lexus have solved this at a stroke. It can't be used for off
load or heavy towing.

My car can manage 65mpg happily with a normal engine - and
still stays above 50mpg with 4 adults onboard and a shedload of stuff
in the back (it's an estate).

A quick glance at any road test summaries - not makers adverts - shows
any diesel of similar size and performance uses a deal less fuel than the
Prius in everyday use. Oh - and some petrol ones too. And they also cost
less. Much less, in fact.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
Matt Beard wrote:
29mpg - who are they trying to fool that this is environmentally
friendly?

The idea with hybrid cars is supposed to be that they are more fuel
efficient.

If that was the main reason,
they'd use a diesel, not petrol engine.

They are also to be clean on burning. Filthy diesels should be banned,

snip senile babble

In article ,
Ian Cornish icornish at talk21 dot com wrote:
Apart from the fact that cars/technology like it may actually help save
this world from it's current self destruction due to the current
occupant's obsession with 1mpg gas guzzling 4x4's just used to go down
to the shop round the corner ?

Autocar got an overall fuel consumption of 23 mpg with the Prius - far
worse than any similar performance diesel.

All the Prius is good for is as a town car used continually in very heavy
traffic. Where you'd be better off using PT.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Ian Cornish icornish at talk21 dot com wrote:
Apart from the fact that cars/technology like it may actually help save
this world from it's current self destruction due to the current
occupant's obsession with 1mpg gas guzzling 4x4's just used to go down
to the shop round the corner ?

Autocar got an overall fuel consumption of 23 mpg with the Prius - far
worse than any similar performance diesel.

Amazing!! And the senile one believes it. Someone sold him Tower bridge
too. Every other magazine gets over 50mpg and Auto Express got 65mpg.

snip idiotic babble

raden wrote:
So unless there's another fool out there
I can confirm that dIMM is a late middle aged woman with glasses
What an ugly tank

And for those of us who haven't seen one, what does the car look like?

Owain

"Owain" wrote in message
. ..
raden wrote:
So unless there's another fool out there
I can confirm that dIMM is a late middle aged woman with glasses
What an ugly tank

And for those of us who haven't seen one, what does the car look like?

Very nice.

http://www.toyota.co.uk Select Prius. More torque than a V6. and scoots to
62mpg is no time at all - that's if you are into boy racer starts. In mid
acceleration is ****es over most others.

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:57:49 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


http://www.toyota.co.uk Select Prius. More torque than a V6.

But less than my milk float.

and scoots to 62mpg is no time at all

12 seconds? Must be plumber time to be "no time at all".

- that's if you are into boy racer starts. In mid acceleration is ****es over most others.

From 50-70 it will outperform my milk float I admit. It is however
only 2/3 as fast as a Ford Focus, slower than a Rav4 and much slower
than Skoda Octavia. In fact not much else is slower on the flat and
nothing (other than my milk float) is slower on a hill.


--
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writes
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:57:49 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


http://www.toyota.co.uk Select Prius. More torque than a V6.

But less than my milk float.

and scoots to 62mpg is no time at all

12 seconds? Must be plumber time to be "no time at all".

62 mpg in 12 seconds ?



--
geoff

"Peter Parry" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:57:49 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


http://www.toyota.co.uk Select Prius. More torque than a V6.

But less than my milk float.

Oh another one trying to be funny. And no good at it.

and scoots to 62mpg is no time at all

12 seconds? Must be plumber
time to be "no time at all".

- that's if you are into boy racer starts.
In mid acceleration is ****es over most others.

snip total drivel

He is jealous.

Peter Parry wrote:

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:57:49 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:



http://www.toyota.co.uk Select Prius. More torque than a V6.


But less than my milk float.


and scoots to 62mpg is no time at all


12 seconds? Must be plumber time to be "no time at all".



Umm. I am pondering scooting to a figure for petrol consumption


- that's if you are into boy racer starts. In mid acceleration is ****es over most others.


From 50-70 it will outperform my milk float I admit. It is however
only 2/3 as fast as a Ford Focus, slower than a Rav4 and much slower
than Skoda Octavia. In fact not much else is slower on the flat and
nothing (other than my milk float) is slower on a hill.


you can get 60mpg by driving any small diesel to the execrable
performance levels of a Prius..

Doctor Drivel wrote:

http://www.toyota.co.uk Select Prius. More torque than a V6. and scoots to
62mpg is no time at all - that's if you are into boy racer starts. In mid
acceleration is ****es over most others.

Just had a look.... how many models of Prius do they do?

Because the only one I could find, they said managed sixty in a rather
sedate 11 secs. That may not be the slowest vehicle on the road, but it
is certainly not "no time at all"...

(unless you mean it in the same way that one of your beloved combis will
fill an "average" bath in "no time at all").


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"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:

http://www.toyota.co.uk Select Prius. More torque than a V6. and
scoots to
62mpg is no time at all - that's if you are into boy racer starts. In
mid
acceleration is ****es over most others.

Just had a look.... how many models of Prius do they do?

Because the only one I could find, they said managed sixty in a rather
sedate 11 secs. That may not be the slowest vehicle on the road, but it
is certainly not "no time at all"...

It is supposed to get to 60 in two weeks reading you and your fellow
loonpots here and do 23mpg too. It keeps up with them and outperforms a BMW
5 series in mid acceleration.

The new Highlander hybrid gets to 60 in 7.3 secs, if you like silliness of
course.

(unless you mean it in the same way that one of your beloved combis will
fill an "average" bath in "no time at all").

Correct. You are bright.

Doctor Drivel wrote:

loonpots here and do 23mpg too. It keeps up with them and outperforms a BMW
5 series in mid acceleration.

But only if you keep the BMW in 5th gear...

The new Highlander hybrid gets to 60 in 7.3 secs, if you like silliness of
course.

Sounds more reasonable. Wonder what trade-in you would get on the Prius.

(unless you mean it in the same way that one of your beloved combis will
fill an "average" bath in "no time at all").

Correct.

thought so...

You are bright.

So I am told.



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In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
It keeps up with them and outperforms a BMW
5 series in mid acceleration.

What a fool. Only if you compare it with a manual 5 Series in the wrong
gear for best acceleration.

Since the Prius has a CVT auto transmission, the fair comparison would be
with an auto whatever.

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"Doctor Drivel" wrote:

The new Highlander hybrid gets to 60 in 7.3 secs

Positively pedestrian, when it does it in sub 5 seconds, reaching
160mph and gets 45mpg let me know, until then I'd be accepting a
compromise.


--

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:57:49 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

http://www.toyota.co.uk Select Prius. More torque than a V6. and scoots to
62mpg is no time at all - that's if you are into boy racer starts. In mid
acceleration is ****es over most others.

Did you know that 'Prius' is Japanese for 'Potato'?

sponix

"--s-p-o-n-i-x--" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:57:49 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

http://www.toyota.co.uk Select Prius. More torque than a V6. and scoots
to
62mpg is no time at all - that's if you are into boy racer starts. In
mid
acceleration is ****es over most others.

Did you know that 'Prius' is Japanese for 'Potato'?

Did you make that up? It means first in Latin

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"--s-p-o-n-i-x--" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:57:49 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

http://www.toyota.co.uk Select Prius. More torque than a V6. and
scoots to 62mpg is no time at all - that's if you are into boy
racer starts. In mid acceleration is ****es over most others.

Did you know that 'Prius' is Japanese for 'Potato'?

Did you make that up? It means first in Latin

Hmm. Quoting from a number of internet pages: Prius, Latin for "go before"

Unfortunately the name is rather close to the unfortunate condition called
"priapism".

As someone in the market for a fuel efficient car, I have been attracted to
the Prius. I am a little uncertain about the high purchase price, the
cosmetic issues, and more importantly, about the resale value (dealers don't
appear to like it because of uncertainties about the new technology. A
problem that Citroens have suffered from for a number of years thanks to
their unconventional suspension).

The good news is that Toyota (and a few others) have more hybrid cars in the
pipeline in the near future. Lets hope they can continue to improve.

John.

In article , --s-p-o-n-i-x--
writes

Did you know that 'Prius' is Japanese for 'Potato'?

In Drivel's case, 'Prius' is English for 'lemon'. But he won't admit
that the Prius is a lemon.

Of course, he doesn't really own one; he's just regurgitating the
marketing bull**** from the Toyota web****e.

"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...
In article , --s-p-o-n-i-x--
writes

Did you know that 'Prius' is Japanese for 'Potato'?

In Drivel's case,

yes snipping lunacy is in order

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:02:24 +0100, Owain
wrote:

And for those of us who haven't seen one, what does the car look like?

One of my neighbours has one. As I've not noticed any leaks, I don;t
think they're Drivel.

Do you remember the mid-90s, when Audis went all slab-sided and ugly?
Well a Prius is like that, done to Toyotas. I've seen a few, all in
silver - which is usually an indication that the car's a bloated munter
and looks awful in any darker colour.

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:02:24 +0100, Owain
wrote:

And for those of us who haven't seen one, what does the car look like?

One of my neighbours has one. As I've not noticed any leaks, I don;t
think they're Drivel.

Do you remember the mid-90s, when Audis went all slab-sided and ugly?
Well a Prius is like that, done to Toyotas.

You have sight problems. A Toyota looks nothing like an Audi, and is curvy.
Most peopel comment of the nice advanced looks.

http://www.toyota.com/prius/