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Using silver plating polish
To improve connectivity through the mains sockets I'm trying to silver
plate the brass pins of my UK MK mains plugs. I'm trying a chemical, silver depositing soultion (Sheffield Plate Silver Polish), but find that even after mutiple attempts, all I'm getting is brighter, smoother brass ! Slightly paler in colour than when I started but certainly not silver coloured. I've tried finding details of the polish manufacturers to no avail as I wondered whether the stuff has a shelf-life and mine is out of date. The solution is pinky-brown and sort of sludgy. Has anyone else tried this ? Do MK mains plugs have a coating on the pins that I need to strip away first, does the solution itself sound right ? Any help welcome. |
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Stephen wrote:
To improve connectivity through the mains sockets I'm trying to silver plate the brass pins of my UK MK mains plugs. I'm trying a chemical, silver depositing soultion (Sheffield Plate Silver Polish), but find that even after mutiple attempts, all I'm getting is brighter, smoother brass ! Slightly paler in colour than when I started but certainly not silver coloured. I've tried finding details of the polish manufacturers to no avail as I wondered whether the stuff has a shelf-life and mine is out of date. The solution is pinky-brown and sort of sludgy. Has anyone else tried this ? Do MK mains plugs have a coating on the pins that I need to strip away first, does the solution itself sound right ? Any help welcome. Your waisting your time, that silvering polish was meant to resilver numeric antique clock dials,the brass has to be shiny and smooth and to be honest silver pins on plugs will not improve the connectivity because it will wear off as you fit plug in/out of socket. That silvering polish comes in two products..silvering&finishing. http://www.clockspares.net/detail.asp?id=4741 |
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Stephen wrote:
To improve connectivity through the mains sockets I'm trying to silver plate the brass pins of my UK MK mains plugs. I'm trying a chemical, silver depositing soultion (Sheffield Plate Silver Polish), but find that even after mutiple attempts, all I'm getting is brighter, smoother brass ! Slightly paler in colour than when I started but certainly not Why on earth would you want to? Unless they are overheating, in which case simply polish them back to clean brass. If still overheating, you need to replace the faulty socket. |
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Stephen wrote:
To improve connectivity through the mains sockets I'm trying to silver plate the brass pins of my UK MK mains plugs. Try posting this to rec.audio.insane-fruitbats This is such a pointless idea that I can't even begin to get the enthusiasm up for posting about silvering brass. You have no idea how dischuffed I have to be to get to that state - this is a mind-buggeringly stupid waste of effort. |
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Ian Stirling wrote:
Stephen wrote: To improve connectivity through the mains sockets I'm trying to silver plate the brass pins of my UK MK mains plugs. I'm trying a chemical, silver depositing soultion (Sheffield Plate Silver Polish), but find that even after mutiple attempts, all I'm getting is brighter, smoother brass ! Slightly paler in colour than when I started but certainly not Why on earth would you want to? Probably a Hi-Fi nut. Silver, despite being the best conductor will oxidise so he really ought to gold plate it instead. Somewhere I have an MK Safeplug that I gold plated about 20 years ago. It's not on the Hi-Fi though as that makes sod all difference - it probably ended up on the video or the microwave ;-) -- |
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Stephen wrote:
To improve connectivity through the mains sockets I'm trying to silver plate the brass pins of my UK MK mains plugs. ??? Because you're getting too much signal loss at 50Hz or what? Why do you want silver plated pins? -- Grunff |
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Matt wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: Stephen wrote: To improve connectivity through the mains sockets I'm trying to silver plate the brass pins of my UK MK mains plugs. I'm trying a chemical, silver depositing soultion (Sheffield Plate Silver Polish), but find that even after mutiple attempts, all I'm getting is brighter, smoother brass ! Slightly paler in colour than when I started but certainly not Why on earth would you want to? Probably a Hi-Fi nut. Silver, despite being the best conductor will oxidise so he really ought to gold plate it instead. And the socket and the fuse in the consumer unit and the electricity co's fuse and carrier and... There is one born every mnute. MBQ |
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Matt wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: Stephen wrote: To improve connectivity through the mains sockets I'm trying to silver plate the brass pins of my UK MK mains plugs. I'm trying a chemical, silver depositing soultion (Sheffield Plate Silver Polish), but find that even after mutiple attempts, all I'm getting is brighter, smoother brass ! Slightly paler in colour than when I started but certainly not Why on earth would you want to? Probably a Hi-Fi nut. Silver, despite being the best conductor will oxidise so he really ought to gold plate it instead. And the socket and the fuse in the consumer unit and the electricity co's fuse and carrier and... Maplin's car hi-fi range used to include a gold-plated battery clamp... with a gold-plated Allen key to do it up. -- Ian White |
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:23:38 GMT, "ben" wrote:
U still need elecy to charge the batteries, I use 500 hamsters on a wheel gen. Wouldn't one donkey be as good? Or, come to think of it, any very large mammal with legs? Mr F. |
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"Frank Erskine" wrote in message ... On 12 Aug 2005 04:35:19 -0700, wrote: Matt wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: Stephen wrote: To improve connectivity through the mains sockets I'm trying to silver plate the brass pins of my UK MK mains plugs. I'm trying a chemical, silver depositing soultion (Sheffield Plate Silver Polish), but find that even after mutiple attempts, all I'm getting is brighter, smoother brass ! Slightly paler in colour than when I started but certainly not Why on earth would you want to? Probably a Hi-Fi nut. Silver, despite being the best conductor will oxidise so he really ought to gold plate it instead. And the socket and the fuse in the consumer unit and the electricity co's fuse and carrier and... Naturally the National Grid cables should be renewed with oxygen-free copper. There is one born every mnute. :-) You don't need too many!: http://tinyurl.com/bm42b Bob Mannix |
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Mr Fizzion wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:23:38 GMT, "ben" wrote: U still need elecy to charge the batteries, I use 500 hamsters on a wheel gen. Wouldn't one donkey be as good? Or, come to think of it, any very large mammal with legs? Mr F. No, cost too much in carrots to keep. :-) |
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Bob Mannix wrote:
"Frank Erskine" wrote in message ... On 12 Aug 2005 04:35:19 -0700, wrote: Matt wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: Stephen wrote: To improve connectivity through the mains sockets I'm trying to silver plate the brass pins of my UK MK mains plugs. I'm trying a chemical, silver depositing soultion (Sheffield Plate Silver Polish), but find that even after mutiple attempts, all I'm getting is brighter, smoother brass ! Slightly paler in colour than when I started but certainly not Why on earth would you want to? Probably a Hi-Fi nut. Silver, despite being the best conductor will oxidise so he really ought to gold plate it instead. And the socket and the fuse in the consumer unit and the electricity co's fuse and carrier and... Naturally the National Grid cables should be renewed with oxygen-free copper. There is one born every mnute. :-) You don't need too many!: http://tinyurl.com/bm42b Ahahahahahaha A pure silver, specially woven IEC mains lead... £940!!! Love the customer comment: "...after the full burn in period..." I really must set up an audiophile shop. |
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"Rob Morley" wrote in message t... In article , "Bob Mannix" says... snip You don't need too many!: http://tinyurl.com/bm42b That's either very funny or slightly worrying - I'm not sure which. I believe it is called "esoteric" hi fi - it's better but you can't hear the difference. Clothes, new, emperor's etc. Bloody sure you would say it was good after paying that amount! Bob Mannix |
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I suppose RF filtering may help the amp, but you can filter RF without
some weird silver "weave". He probably wears a silver weave on his head when listening to his hi-fi. I wonder if the "burn-in" idea came from him, or from the Kord people. Simon. |
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"PC Paul" wrote in message ... Bob Mannix wrote: "Frank Erskine" wrote in message ... On 12 Aug 2005 04:35:19 -0700, wrote: Matt wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: Stephen wrote: To improve connectivity through the mains sockets I'm trying to silver plate the brass pins of my UK MK mains plugs. I'm trying a chemical, silver depositing soultion (Sheffield Plate Silver Polish), but find that even after mutiple attempts, all I'm getting is brighter, smoother brass ! Slightly paler in colour than when I started but certainly not Why on earth would you want to? Probably a Hi-Fi nut. Silver, despite being the best conductor will oxidise so he really ought to gold plate it instead. And the socket and the fuse in the consumer unit and the electricity co's fuse and carrier and... Naturally the National Grid cables should be renewed with oxygen-free copper. There is one born every mnute. :-) You don't need too many!: http://tinyurl.com/bm42b Ahahahahahaha A pure silver, specially woven IEC mains lead... £940!!! Love the customer comment: "...after the full burn in period..." I really must set up an audiophile shop. Mind you, compared with 8ft of tri-wire speaker cable, it's farily reasonable... http://tinyurl.com/dmqot |
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In article , "Bob Mannix"
says... "Rob Morley" wrote in message t... In article , "Bob Mannix" says... snip You don't need too many!: http://tinyurl.com/bm42b That's either very funny or slightly worrying - I'm not sure which. I believe it is called "esoteric" hi fi - it's better but you can't hear the difference. Clothes, new, emperor's etc. Bloody sure you would say it was good after paying that amount! While skimming through the Sale of Goods Act the other day I was reminded of the bit that basically says it's illegal to rip off drunks, idiots and children - unfortunately that only applies to "necessary" items ... |
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"Rob Morley" wrote in message t... In article , "Bob Mannix" says... "Rob Morley" wrote in message t... In article , "Bob Mannix" says... snip You don't need too many!: http://tinyurl.com/bm42b That's either very funny or slightly worrying - I'm not sure which. I believe it is called "esoteric" hi fi - it's better but you can't hear the difference. Clothes, new, emperor's etc. Bloody sure you would say it was good after paying that amount! While skimming through the Sale of Goods Act the other day I was reminded of the bit that basically says it's illegal to rip off drunks, idiots and children - unfortunately that only applies to "necessary" items ... And doesn't include ripping of people with more money than sense (nor should it really - where would be the fun in that?). I am always amused by the great hi fi joke nature/the Creator/small white mice played on us - when you are young enough to hear any difference, you can't afford decent hi fi as you haven't any money. When you have enough money your ears have deteriorated so you can't hear the difference - life's a bitch. Bob Mannix |
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Bob Mannix wrote:
Mind you, compared with 8ft of tri-wire speaker cable, it's farily reasonable... http://tinyurl.com/dmqot FFS! |
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"Bob Mannix" wrote:
Mind you, compared with 8ft of tri-wire speaker cable, it's farily reasonable... http://tinyurl.com/dmqot The default amplifier and speaker connectors are bananas - just like the nuts who buy them! -- |
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"Bob Mannix" wrote in message ... big snip I am always amused by the great hi fi joke nature/the Creator/small white mice played on us - when you are young enough to hear any difference, you can't afford decent hi fi as you haven't any money. When you have enough money your ears have deteriorated so you can't hear the difference - life's a bitch. Scene: 'Transit Servicing Flight' area, RAF Akrotiri, mid Seventies ... VC-10 is waved-in to a stop and a ground crew surround the aircraft doing what ground-crew are paid to do. Door opens, steps brought up and a Medic type comes down the steps, staring aghast at the ground crew not wearing ear-defenders ... Medic throws a wobbly and insists that entire ground-crew be summoned to Sick Quarters for Hearing Tests ! Yes, you've guessed correctly; ... _the_ Hi-Fi buff, who could bore for England on the subject, was for all intents deaf-as-a-post - had a frequency-range of about two octaves. -- Brian |
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Matt wrote:
"Bob Mannix" wrote: Mind you, compared with 8ft of tri-wire speaker cable, it's farily reasonable... http://tinyurl.com/dmqot The default amplifier and speaker connectors are bananas - just like the nuts who buy them! Don't be silly they are the perfect connector for those seeking a warm golden sound, sweet and with a gentle midrange boost. |
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PC Paul wrote:
Bob Mannix wrote: There is one born every mnute. You don't need too many!: http://tinyurl.com/bm42b Ahahahahahaha A pure silver, specially woven IEC mains lead... £940!!! Stone the crows... when I clicked the link I thought it was a ****-take, but seemingly this is for real! Does it really make any difference to the sound at all, let alone 940 quid's worth?!! David |
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Lobster wrote:
PC Paul wrote: Bob Mannix wrote: There is one born every mnute. You don't need too many!: http://tinyurl.com/bm42b Ahahahahahaha A pure silver, specially woven IEC mains lead... ?940!!! Stone the crows... when I clicked the link I thought it was a ****-take, but seemingly this is for real! Does it really make any difference to the sound at all, let alone 940 quid's worth?!! Gold actually has a point, it doesn't work harden, so would make decent cables for headphones. |
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In article , "Lobster"
says... PC Paul wrote: Bob Mannix wrote: There is one born every mnute. You don't need too many!: http://tinyurl.com/bm42b Ahahahahahaha A pure silver, specially woven IEC mains lead... £940!!! Stone the crows... when I clicked the link I thought it was a ****-take, but seemingly this is for real! Does it really make any difference to the sound at all, let alone 940 quid's worth?!! Of course it does - ask anyone who's bought one ... |
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Matt wrote:
"Bob Mannix" wrote: Mind you, compared with 8ft of tri-wire speaker cable, it's farily reasonable... http://tinyurl.com/dmqot The default amplifier and speaker connectors are bananas - just like the nuts who buy them! This bloke would buy one, thats if he already hasn't. http://www.davewhitter.myby.co.uk/ |
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Rob Morley wrote:
Why do people go to all this trouble to "clean" their mains supply when they should obviously be using a shed full of car batteries to power their kit anyway? Any particular car batteries (Bentley, Porsche, etc) or will one out of a rear-ended Fiat Fandango down the scrappy's do? Owain |
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Mr Fizzion wrote:
"ben" wrote: U still need elecy to charge the batteries, I use 500 hamsters on a wheel gen. Wouldn't one donkey be as good? Or, come to think of it, any very large mammal with legs? No, because you would get rumble on your woofters every time the donkey takes a step. 500 hamsters is pretty good, most people are satisfied with 50 ferrets. It's the same principle as internal combusion engines - 6 cylinders give a smoother output than one. After all, you woldn't use one combi to fill a bath, so why use one donkey to power the hifi Owain |
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Ian White wrote:
Maplin's car hi-fi range used to include a gold-plated battery clamp... with a gold-plated Allen key to do it up. Did they do gold-plated mosfets or is that taking things too far? Owain |
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Matt wrote:
wrote: Matt wrote: Probably a Hi-Fi nut. Silver, despite being the best conductor will oxidise so he really ought to gold plate it instead. And the socket and the fuse in the consumer unit and the electricity co's fuse and carrier and... No point in doing that, the microwave works perfectly ;-) Yes, plating the mains plug was extravagant, I never expected it to improve the Hi-Fi (which was correct) and it cost me nothing apart from a few minutes wiring it up in a plating bath - someone else paid for the plating salts :-) I my youth I did actually buy a "Practical HiFi" (or similar) magazine; leafing through it I laughed and joked with my mates on the same Electrical and Electronic Engineering course over gold plated mains plugs (and sockets!, if I remember correctly). It was only when I got to the section where someone advocated wrapping a straightened paperclip around the pins of all unused - and therefore unplugged mains electrical items in the house "to avoid induced electromagnetic fields" (or some similar crap) that I decided that that was £2 completely wasted on the magazine and vowed never to buy another one. The world, it'd seem, has enough nutters in it without me joining them. Some 20 years later, I've still avoided buying another, however a colleague at work does bring them in from time to time (i.e. once a month - funny, what he spends on HiFi mags I spend on AV equipment... Hmmm...) and he pointed to an article where a filtered mains extension lead for somewhere in the region of £500 was cited as the best, most affordable upgrade to any home system. Don't get me wrong, a mains filter *could* affect the quality, particularly on cheap, badly filtered PSUs, but to my mind spending a tenth of that would do the job satisfactorily. It's just good to know that, despite the 20 years since my first and only magazine, that Darwinism hasn't yet kicked in, and we still have these people who entertain and amuse us with tales of how polarised speaker cables have changed their life (ok, anyone care to explain polarised speaker cables?) |
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In article , Mike Dodd
URL:mailto:no-address@lo0 wrote: (ok, anyone care to explain polarised speaker cables?) Polarised or just marked for convenient in phase connection? Can you explain speaker cables I have in stock which have directional arrows on them to make sure the signal flows the right way? :-) I recall a "test" where one cable was reversed. Apparently the effect was clearly audible. Bless! -- AJL Electronics (G6FGO) Ltd : Satellite and TV aerial systems http://www.classicmicrocars.co.uk : http://www.ajlelectronics.co.uk |
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It's just good to know that, despite the 20 years since my first and
only magazine, that Darwinism hasn't yet kicked in, and we still have these people who entertain and amuse us with tales of how polarised speaker cables have changed their life (ok, anyone care to explain polarised speaker cables?) Any fule knowe that you have to coat them in snake oil and use a 1.5 volt duracell to flush out the tired electrons and do that on the full moon with a young virgin.. Never mind  ....Somewhere around there is a place selling speaker cable pylons to carry the precious electrons over the carpet so they don't get "contaminated" but I can't remember where it is now. Still Russ Andrews comes up with some fine products. Apart from those "must have" rhodium plated type speaker cables he does some fine mains leads and even offers a service to "burn them in!. Think I'm joking?, these things are taken very seriously in some circles. Hope this link works ......http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...currency=GBP&p f_id=1048&customer_id=PAA1386088005195VWGXGTRWXJDY MOIE -- Tony Sayer |
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:49:54 GMT, "ben" wrote:
This bloke would buy one, thats if he already hasn't. http://www.davewhitter.myby.co.uk/ I like the sound of his other hobby - " 5 inch gauge, coal fired, F1 motor racing" |
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Ian Stirling wrote:
Matt wrote: "Bob Mannix" wrote: Mind you, compared with 8ft of tri-wire speaker cable, it's farily reasonable... http://tinyurl.com/dmqot The default amplifier and speaker connectors are bananas - just like the nuts who buy them! Don't be silly they are the perfect connector for those seeking a warm golden sound, sweet and with a gentle midrange boost. I just realigned my banana plugs 180 degrees and instantly transformed a troublesome midrange cut into boost. I just wondered by using them do I avoid any possibility of the skin effect? -- |
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