Hi

It looks as if my boiler is finally giving up the ghost....its 18 years old and the thieves at BG have just written to say they can no longer get parts for it. Whilst it take this warning with a pinch of salt, I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that I shoudl replace it anyway.

So...the current set up is traditional boiler - cold water tank in the loft and hot water cyliner in the Airing cupboard. I have just finished two new bathrooms with pump-assisted mixer shower in one and a nice Power Shower unit in the other - all the other plumbing is very standard with the boiler feeding 10 radiators.

So now the question is - what is the most cost efficient way to replace the boiler?? I think I want to avoid a combi system as this wont be compatible with my lovely new showers (??). Anyone got any views on what to buy and where to buy it?????

Very grateful for any advice

"alexbartman" wrote in message
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Hi

It looks as if my boiler is finally giving up the ghost....its 18 years
old and the thieves at BG have just written to say they can no longer
get parts for it. Whilst it take this warning with a pinch of salt,
I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that I shoudl replace it anyway.
snip
Very grateful for any advice

BG told us that about 14 years back and we're still using the same boiler,
regularly serviced by an independent contractor. I decided that if it wasn't
broke we wouldn't fix it. If we had a parts problem we'd have gone for a
replacement. It's not happened.

A couple of years after BG turned down our application for a maintenance
plan, we had a new leteer saying why don't you put your CH on a maintenance
plan. Having been invited, I applied again (after all the nice gas man would
at least service the boiler before BG returned our money) and that resulted
in a stroppy phone call taken by my wife which apparently implied some
deceit on our part. it would have been a very interesting (but polite) call
if I'd picked up the phone..

I'd keep with the existing boiler until it's truly broken.

We are now changing our boiler, but only because we're extending the house
and moving from a back boiler to a wall-mounted kitchen one.

Paul



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alexbartman

"alexbartman" wrote in message
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Hi

It looks as if my boiler is finally giving up the ghost....its 18 years
old and the thieves at BG have just written to say they can no longer
get parts for it. Whilst it take this warning with a pinch of salt,
I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that I shoudl replace it anyway.

So...the current set up is traditional boiler - cold water tank in the
loft and hot water cyliner in the Airing cupboard. I have just
finished two new bathrooms with pump-assisted mixer shower in one and a
nice Power Shower unit in the other - all the other plumbing is very
standard with the boiler feeding 10 radiators.

So now the question is - what is the most cost efficient way to replace
the boiler?? I think I want to avoid a combi system as this wont be
compatible with my lovely new showers (??). Anyone got any views on
what to buy and where to buy it?????

A combi, well any mains pressure system, will not be compatible with only
one of your showers. Your existing cylinder and tanks are probably old by
now too, so a rethink is on the cards as you have a major expense and
upheaval whether you like it or not. May as well do it all.

Replacing one shower mixer is no big thing. This removes the noisy and
potentially troublesome shower pumps. Just because they are newish, doesn't
mean you have to keep them. You are now in a position to reassess the whole
system, so look objectively. I would consider a mains pressure system, that
is if your mains supply can cope. You may be able to uprate the mains
supply from the road to the house reasonably cheaply too, and well worth
doing.

Then you have a choice of one box solutions, the cylinders and boilers all
in one case, matched perfectly for efficiency by expert engineers, instead
of some plumber mismatching a cheapo off-the-shelf cylinder: Potterton
Powermax, Ideal Istor, Viessmann, Worcester Bosch Greenstar Highflow,
Gledhill Gulfstream 2000; all floor mounted, and a wall mounted Alpha CD50.

In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
So now the question is - what is the most cost efficient way to replace
the boiler?? I think I want to avoid a combi system as this wont be
compatible with my lovely new showers (??). Anyone got any views on
what to buy and where to buy it?????

A combi, well any mains pressure system, will not be compatible with
only one of your showers. Your existing cylinder and tanks are probably
old by now too, so a rethink is on the cards as you have a major expense
and upheaval whether you like it or not. May as well do it all.

Replacing header tanks and a storage cylinder is cheap and easy. Assuming
they need replacing, which isn't certain anyway.

Replacing one shower mixer is no big thing. This removes the noisy and
potentially troublesome shower pumps. Just because they are newish,
doesn't mean you have to keep them.

No - just throw them out and replace with an inferior system.

You are now in a position to reassess the whole system, so look
objectively. I would consider a mains pressure system, that is if your
mains supply can cope. You may be able to uprate the mains supply from
the road to the house reasonably cheaply too, and well worth doing.

May. It's a big if. As all your advice. And likely to be very costly.

Then you have a choice of one box solutions, the cylinders and boilers
all in one case, matched perfectly for efficiency by expert engineers,

Good grief. They're designed to be installed by idiots for maximum profits.
And you call yourself a heating engineer.

instead of some plumber mismatching a cheapo off-the-shelf cylinder:

Well, that's how you may go about it, but others will hopefully do better.

Potterton Powermax, Ideal Istor, Viessmann, Worcester Bosch Greenstar
Highflow, Gledhill Gulfstream 2000; all floor mounted, and a wall
mounted Alpha CD50.

Sounds like you've been through the specs again and are just quoting from
adverts. Anyone with genuine experience is likely to recommend just one.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
So now the question is - what is the most cost efficient way to
replace
the boiler?? I think I want to avoid a combi system as this wont be
compatible with my lovely new showers (??). Anyone got any views on
what to buy and where to buy it?????

A combi, well any mains pressure system, will not be compatible with
only one of your showers. Your existing cylinder and tanks are probably
old by now too, so a rethink is on the cards as you have a major expense
and upheaval whether you like it or not. May as well do it all.

Replacing header tanks

snip total senile misinformation

I wonder if they gave him his proper dinner tonight.

In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Replacing header tanks

snip total senile misinformation


Really by now, John, you should realise that such poor snipping and
constant repetition of the same phrase results in you losing your ISP
account. Again.

What name will you come back with?

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*I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore I am perfect*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:

Replacing header tanks

snip total senile misinformation

This senile one is at it again.

snip drivel

When will the caber tossing idiot stop? Never I suppose idiots just keep
going.

"Doctor Drivel" wrote:

"alexbartman" wrote in message
...

Hi

It looks as if my boiler is finally giving up the ghost....its 18 years
old and the thieves at BG have just written to say they can no longer
get parts for it. Whilst it take this warning with a pinch of salt,
I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that I shoudl replace it anyway.

So...the current set up is traditional boiler - cold water tank in the
loft and hot water cyliner in the Airing cupboard. I have just
finished two new bathrooms with pump-assisted mixer shower in one and a
nice Power Shower unit in the other - all the other plumbing is very
standard with the boiler feeding 10 radiators.

So now the question is - what is the most cost efficient way to replace
the boiler?? I think I want to avoid a combi system as this wont be
compatible with my lovely new showers (??). Anyone got any views on
what to buy and where to buy it?????

A combi, well any mains pressure system, will not be compatible with only
one of your showers. Your existing cylinder and tanks are probably old by
now too, so a rethink is on the cards as you have a major expense and
upheaval whether you like it or not. May as well do it all.

Replacing one shower mixer is no big thing. This removes the noisy and
potentially troublesome shower pumps. Just because they are newish, doesn't
mean you have to keep them. You are now in a position to reassess the whole
system, so look objectively. I would consider a mains pressure system, that
is if your mains supply can cope. You may be able to uprate the mains
supply from the road to the house reasonably cheaply too, and well worth
doing.

Then you have a choice of one box solutions, the cylinders and boilers all
in one case, matched perfectly for efficiency by expert engineers, instead
of some plumber mismatching a cheapo off-the-shelf cylinder: Potterton
Powermax, Ideal Istor, Viessmann, Worcester Bosch Greenstar Highflow,
Gledhill Gulfstream 2000; all floor mounted, and a wall mounted Alpha CD50.

Dribble, yet more evidence you couldn't even spell professional let
alone be one.

Notice how apart from the mention of 10 radiators and 2 bathrooms by
the original poster there is absolutely no indication of the size and
type of construction of the property. Your recommendations Dribble
are therefore utterly worthless and if he is stupid enough to follow
them it could leave the original poster with a seriously deficient
system.

Just as a bit of a clue, taking as an example 10 radiators in the
Stelrad Elite range running at 75/65/20 deg they could span the
following outputs.

1900 w (10 x 450mm High x 400mm Wide P1's)

to

60330 w (10 x 700mm High x 3000mm Wide K2's)


To the original poster, more details of your existing boiler and
radiators, together with type and size of your property are required
before any specific suitable recommendation could be made.


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"Matt" wrote in message
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote:

"alexbartman" wrote in message
...

Hi

It looks as if my boiler is finally giving up the ghost....its 18 years
old and the thieves at BG have just written to say they can no longer
get parts for it. Whilst it take this warning with a pinch of salt,
I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that I shoudl replace it anyway.

So...the current set up is traditional boiler - cold water tank in the
loft and hot water cyliner in the Airing cupboard. I have just
finished two new bathrooms with pump-assisted mixer shower in one and a
nice Power Shower unit in the other - all the other plumbing is very
standard with the boiler feeding 10 radiators.

So now the question is - what is the most cost efficient way to replace
the boiler?? I think I want to avoid a combi system as this wont be
compatible with my lovely new showers (??). Anyone got any views on
what to buy and where to buy it?????

A combi, well any mains pressure system, will not be compatible with only
one of your showers. Your existing cylinder and tanks are probably old
by
now too, so a rethink is on the cards as you have a major expense and
upheaval whether you like it or not. May as well do it all.

Replacing one shower mixer is no big thing. This removes the noisy and
potentially troublesome shower pumps. Just because they are newish,
doesn't
mean you have to keep them. You are now in a position to reassess the
whole
system, so look objectively. I would consider a mains pressure system,
that
is if your mains supply can cope. You may be able to uprate the mains
supply from the road to the house reasonably cheaply too, and well worth
doing.

Then you have a choice of one box solutions, the cylinders and boilers
all
in one case, matched perfectly for efficiency by expert engineers,
instead
of some plumber mismatching a cheapo off-the-shelf cylinder: Potterton
Powermax, Ideal Istor, Viessmann, Worcester Bosch Greenstar Highflow,
Gledhill Gulfstream 2000; all floor mounted, and a wall mounted Alpha
CD50.

snip irrelevant garbage from a half wit