"John Rumm" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

In the real world they do. I an not in Star Trek land.

You do klingon to this group though.... ;-)

Gosh! A comeder.


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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:40:47 GMT, (Jim Ley) wrote:

On 15 Aug 2003 20:59:39 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

"Frank" writes:

main problem with Agent and infact a lot of other news readers is the lack
of native SSL suport

Why in the name of God would you want to read News with SSL?

Well packet sniffing of the groups you read can be quite revealing...

If you lift one ear-flap of your foil helmet a tad, you can probably just
hear the stealthed rotor blades of the black helicopter hovering outside
your window.

Usenet and SSL. That's a cracker ;-)

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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:08:27 +0100, John Laird
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:40:47 GMT, (Jim Ley) wrote:

Well packet sniffing of the groups you read can be quite revealing...

If you lift one ear-flap of your foil helmet a tad, you can probably just
hear the stealthed rotor blades of the black helicopter hovering outside
your window.

Usenet and SSL. That's a cracker ;-)

I was more thinking the wife...

But hey I have no interest in SSL and usenet, just understanding that
people should be allowed to enjoy their privacy should they wish.

You may not mind your boss/bloke you're nicking wireless off knowing
you read alt.sds-drills.naked.pics.binary - but some people might.

Jim.

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:52:26 +0100, "IMM" wrote:


"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:14:07 UTC, "IMM" wrote:

The big deal is that OE is the target for viruses. When and if Outlook
has
a news server function, then this will become the target.

Why on earth would it need a news server function? It's a client
program...

Some here said was to have one. Duh!!!


All of this talk of trolls, Gollum and other virtual creatures makes
me wonder something.

Have you been taking English lessons from Yoda?




..andy

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IMM wrote:

"John Rumm" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:


In the real world they do. I an not in Star Trek land.

You do klingon to this group though.... ;-)


Gosh! A comeder.



Gollum, a statement of meaning, less Ness!¬



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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:



The big deal is that OE is the target for viruses. When and if Outlook
has
a news server function, then this will become the target. So little
change,
or have M$ written some real tight code to prevent/minimise idiots
playing
out with it? For such a large company with a bottomless pit of money, I
find it inconceivable that they can't write secure software.

Its because its staffed by people like you.
Attracted by glitzy brochures and hyped up buzz words and Nu TekNology,
rather than qualified engineers :-)

From someone who has an AGA and a country kitchen. Do you have swirly
patterns on your carpets too?


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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:52:26 UTC, "IMM" wrote:


"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:14:07 UTC, "IMM" wrote:

The big deal is that OE is the target for viruses. When and if Outlook
has
a news server function, then this will become the target.

Why on earth would it need a news server function? It's a client
program...

Some here said was to have one. Duh!!!

Is this English?

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"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:52:26 UTC, "IMM" wrote:


"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:14:07 UTC, "IMM" wrote:

The big deal is that OE is the target for viruses. When and if
Outlook
has
a news server function, then this will become the target.

Why on earth would it need a news server function? It's a client
program...

Some here said was to have one. Duh!!!

Is this English?

yes


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"Grunff" wrote in message
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Bob Eager wrote:

Some here said was to have one. Duh!!!


Is this English?

I read it seven times then gave up. I honestly, hand on heart,
have no idea what it was meant to say.

Hard of think too eh!

Please pout me on your killfile.


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IMM wrote:

Hard of think too eh!

Please pout me on your killfile.

Oh dude, how could I? You've no idea how much I laughed tonight,
all thanks to you.

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IMM wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:



The big deal is that OE is the target for viruses. When and if Outlook

has

a news server function, then this will become the target. So little

change,

or have M$ written some real tight code to prevent/minimise idiots

playing

out with it? For such a large company with a bottomless pit of money, I
find it inconceivable that they can't write secure software.

Its because its staffed by people like you.
Attracted by glitzy brochures and hyped up buzz words and Nu TekNology,
rather than qualified engineers :-)


From someone who has an AGA and a country kitchen. Do you have swirly
patterns on your carpets too?


I only have one carpet, and its fitted to both staircase and the entire
upper floor of teh house except bathrooms, and no, it doesn't have an
patterns at all.

If I want patterns, I buy persian/afghan/pakistani rugs.




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"Grunff" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

Hard of think too eh!

Please pout me on your killfile.

Oh dude, how could I? You've no idea how much I laughed tonight,
all thanks to you.

I never told of the times of Star Trek!


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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:



The big deal is that OE is the target for viruses. When and if Outlook

has

a news server function, then this will become the target. So little

change,

or have M$ written some real tight code to prevent/minimise idiots

playing

out with it? For such a large company with a bottomless pit of money,
I
find it inconceivable that they can't write secure software.

Its because its staffed by people like you.
Attracted by glitzy brochures and hyped up buzz words and Nu TekNology,
rather than qualified engineers :-)

From someone who has an AGA and a country kitchen. Do you have swirly
patterns on your carpets too?

I only have one carpet, and its fitted to both staircase and the entire
upper floor of teh house except bathrooms, and no, it doesn't have an
patterns at all.

But you have an AGA!!! My oh my!


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IMM wrote:

Oh dude, how could I? You've no idea how much I laughed tonight,
all thanks to you.


I never told of the times of Star Trek!

What does that mean?

Try again, slowly, one concept at a time.

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In message , IMM
writes

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:14:07 UTC, "IMM" wrote:

The big deal is that OE is the target for viruses. When and if Outlook
has
a news server function, then this will become the target.

Why on earth would it need a news server function? It's a client
program...

Some here said was to have one. Duh!!!

Could you repeat that in English please?

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"Grunff" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

Oh dude, how could I? You've no idea how much I laughed tonight,
all thanks to you.


I never told of the times of Star Trek!

What does that mean?

Pleas put me on your killfile.


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IMM wrote:

I never told of the times of Star Trek!

What does that mean?


Pleas put me on your killfile.

You could say that 'til you face turns blue, it ain't gonna
happen. Save your keyboard and bandwidth.

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"Grunff" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

I never told of the times of Star Trek!

What does that mean?


Pleas put me on your killfile.

snip drivel

Please put me on your killfile.


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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:39:24 UTC, "IMM" wrote:

Some here said was to have one. Duh!!!

Is this English?

yes

Aaaah....Jersey English!
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:46:31 UTC, "IMM" wrote:

I never told of the times of Star Trek!

More J.E. ???

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In message , IMM
writes

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:52:26 UTC, "IMM" wrote:


"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:14:07 UTC, "IMM" wrote:

The big deal is that OE is the target for viruses. When and if
Outlook
has
a news server function, then this will become the target.

Why on earth would it need a news server function? It's a client
program...

Some here said was to have one. Duh!!!

Is this English?

yes


John I can see that the words are English, but we also have a thing
called grammar which is the way we tie the words together to create
something which makes sense ... which is the bit you missed out
--
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In message , Grunff
writes
IMM wrote:

I never told of the times of Star Trek!

What does that mean?
Pleas put me on your killfile.

You could say that 'til you face turns blue, it ain't gonna happen.
Save your keyboard and bandwidth.

Yeah - far too entertaining to miss
--
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"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , Gnube
writes
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:09:56 +0100, "David W.E. Roberts"
wrote:


"Grunff" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

So you are one of those too. I always wondered what sort of people
watched
Sky 1.

Now look here - you can say what you like about magnetic water
softeners, talk as much crap as you like about insulation, and
come up with all manner of bizzare theories which violate all
known laws of physics, but I *won't* hear a word against Star Trek.

--
Grunff


Now, now - he may be a braindead Troll but he is OUR braindead Troll.
Just keep throwing him the odd bone to gnaw and he will be here for
years
frightening unwary visitors.

I've wrestled with this for 5 minutes now and I still can't decide if
this is a good thing or if this is a bad thing! ;O)

Well, it is entertaining

It is entertaining reading the ramblings of the hard of thinking.


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IMM wrote:

It is entertaining reading the ramblings of the hard of thinking.

Exactly - so you *do* understand why I won't killfile you.

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In article , Bob Eager (be) writes:

be Remember it wasn't THEIR CP/M clone. When DR weren't interested, M$
be bought rights to someone else's CP/M clone, and licensed it to IBM. They
be were marketing already...

Yes, I'd forgotten that. They certainly learned from that experience.

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|

"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , IMM
writes

"Grunff" wrote in message
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sbip drivel

Please put me on your killfile.

John - this is a newsgroup, not an echo chamber - DIY

Maxie, one at time has to take measures.


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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:29:19 +0100, geoff wrote:

Well, it is entertaining

I must have missed that episode! ;O)

Take Care,
Gnube
{too thick for linux}

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:16:43 GMT, (Jim Ley) wrote:


I was more thinking the wife...

But hey I have no interest in SSL and usenet, just understanding that
people should be allowed to enjoy their privacy should they wish.

You may not mind your boss/bloke you're nicking wireless off knowing
you read alt.sds-drills.naked.pics.binary - but some people might.

You can use stunnel in client mode to SSL-wrap pretty much any
TCP connection.
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"John Rumm" wrote in message
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Bob Eager wrote:

Some here said was to have one. Duh!!!


Is this English?

It is, but not as we know it Jim.....

Can you beam him up for ever?


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In message , IMM
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Now, now - he may be a braindead Troll but he is OUR braindead Troll.
Just keep throwing him the odd bone to gnaw and he will be here for
years
frightening unwary visitors.

I've wrestled with this for 5 minutes now and I still can't decide if
this is a good thing or if this is a bad thing! ;O)

Well, it is entertaining

It is entertaining reading the ramblings of the hard of thinking.

Yes, but that's what makes your posts so entertaining
--
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In message , IMM
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , IMM
writes

"Grunff" wrote in message
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sbip drivel

Please put me on your killfile.

John - this is a newsgroup, not an echo chamber - DIY

Maxie, one at time has to take measures.

????????????

We will have to define your language as "Jinglish"
--
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Bob Eager wrote:

Remember it wasn't THEIR CP/M clone. When DR weren't interested, M$
bought rights to someone else's CP/M clone, and licensed it to IBM. They
were marketing already...

Apparently IBM asked MS for the OS first - but they had to admit that it
was not their product and they needed to speak to (I)DR instead. DR were
interested - but Gary Kildall refused to sign IBMs Non Disclosure
Agreement. Hence IBM went back to Gates and Co and asked if they could
source an OS. They weren't going to turn it down twice and the rest is
history as they say!

They bought a product called "Quick and Dirty Operating System" (QDOS)
from a company called Seattle Computer Products.... which as others have
said, was a pretty straight "port" ;-) of CP/M (done before DR released
CP/M 86 IIRC). IBM did later offer CP/M 86 as an option on the PC, but
few bought it because it was expensive, and PC-DOS was included anyway.
The start of another trend me thinks!

It was a joint licensing deal to start with, but in the end MS bought
out all the remaining rights to QDOS for a one off payment of $1m.


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"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , IMM
writes

Now, now - he may be a braindead Troll but he is OUR braindead Troll.
Just keep throwing him the odd bone to gnaw and he will be here for
years
frightening unwary visitors.

I've wrestled with this for 5 minutes now and I still can't decide if
this is a good thing or if this is a bad thing! ;O)

Well, it is entertaining

It is entertaining reading the ramblings of the hard of thinking.

Yes, but that's what makes your posts so entertaining
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ROLLMAO. yerr!


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"IMM" wrote
| Pleas put me on your killfile.

Why don't you just put that in your sig?

Owain

In article ,
Owain wrote:
| Pleas put me on your killfile.

Why don't you just put that in your sig?

with mystery spelling...

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RIP Acorn

On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 12:38:39 UTC, John Rumm
wrote:

IBM did later offer CP/M 86 as an option on the PC, but
few bought it because it was expensive, and PC-DOS was included anyway.
The start of another trend me thinks!

And that was the original reason for the existence of FDISK, and
partitions. IBM wanted users to be able to have both (or, indeed, the
UCSD p-system!)
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Bob Eager wrote:

(or, indeed, the
UCSD p-system!)

Hmmm used that on some HP workstations.... kind of odd but not bad when
you get used to it!

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"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , IMM
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , IMM

writes

"Grunff" wrote in message
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sbip drivel

Please put me on your killfile.

John - this is a newsgroup, not an echo chamber - DIY

Maxie, one at time has to take measures.

????????????

We will have to define your language as "Jinglish"

OK, Maxie.


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geoff wrote:

Maxie, one at time has to take measures.

????????????

We will have to define your language as "Jinglish"

I think he's finally flipped...

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"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:57:14 UTC, "IMM" wrote:

Unlike yourself I do not work for MacDonalds.

Even superficially correct sentences are mangled by IMM.

'yourself' indeed!

Indeed my good man!


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