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Following a recent "discussion" in this NG ... "http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/ebusiness/story/0,2000048590,20277192,0 0.htm It might be the world's most widely distributed e-mail client, but Microsoft has confirmed that it has no intention of further developing Outlook Express." -- geoff |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... Following a recent "discussion" in this NG ... "http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/ebusiness/story/0,2000048590,20277192,0 0.htm It might be the world's most widely distributed e-mail client, but Microsoft has confirmed that it has no intention of further developing Outlook Express." What other decent newsgroup editor/browser is available that is free? --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 05/08/2003 |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:40:11 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
"geoff" wrote in message ... Following a recent "discussion" in this NG ... "http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/ebusiness/story/0,2000048590,20277192,0 0.htm It might be the world's most widely distributed e-mail client, but Microsoft has confirmed that it has no intention of further developing Outlook Express." What other decent newsgroup editor/browser is available that is free? Cheapskate :-). Why do you expect everything for free? Somebody put a lot of work into that software...... :-) Forte Agent is pretty good. There is a free version and inexpensive paid version. There's a lot more configurability than Outlook Exploder and does not take much acclimatisation. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:40:11 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "geoff" wrote in message ... Following a recent "discussion" in this NG ... "http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/ebusiness/story/0,2000048590,20277192,0 0.htm It might be the world's most widely distributed e-mail client, but Microsoft has confirmed that it has no intention of further developing Outlook Express." What other decent newsgroup editor/browser is available that is free? Cheapskate :-). Why do you expect everything for free? Somebody put a lot of work into that software...... :-) Forte Agent is pretty good. There is a free version and inexpensive paid version. There's a lot more configurability than Outlook Exploder and does not take much acclimatisation. .andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl main problem with Agent and infact a lot of other news readers is the lack of native SSL suport |
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writes "geoff" wrote in message ... Following a recent "discussion" in this NG ... "http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/ebusiness/story/0,2000048590,20277192,0 0.htm It might be the world's most widely distributed e-mail client, but Microsoft has confirmed that it has no intention of further developing Outlook Express." What other decent newsgroup editor/browser is available that is free? Sorry, If I told you, I'd have to kill you Well John, you could try Mozilla and Xnews for a start -- geoff |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... Following a recent "discussion" in this NG ... "http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/ebusiness/story/0,2000048590,20277192,0 0.htm It might be the world's most widely distributed e-mail client, but Microsoft has confirmed that it has no intention of further developing Outlook Express." -- geoff |
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In article , abuse-imm (a) writes:
a What other decent newsgroup editor/browser is available that is free? Given the group, shouldn't you be writing your own. on the rare occasions I have needed to read news on windows I have used free Agent. Good enough that I actually bought the full version. -- Mail me as _O_ | |
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writes What other decent newsgroup editor/browser is available that is free? I know some uber geeks and they all use Opera http://www.opera.com/ I don't have it myself because I mainly use my works PC for surfing :-) ^^^^^^^ IRTA "stuffing"... -- Paul |
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I know some uber geeks and they all use Opera http://www.opera.com/ I don't have it myself because I mainly use my works PC for surfing :-) Opera is a great browser, and used to be a good mail client (pre-m2), but the newsreader sucks. -- Grunff |
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What other decent newsgroup editor/browser is available that is free? For newsgroups and mail I have used Virtual Access and its predecessors for ten years+ http://www.atlantic-coast.com/va/index.htm Arguably it falls into the category of programs that are a bit too clever: if you stick with it you'll probably love it, but new users might find it too much. -- Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk Free SEDBUK boiler database browser http://www.sda.co.uk/qsedbuk.htm |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 01:19:13 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote: Somebody put a lot of work into that software...... :-) Are you sure this is IE you're talking about? Looks more like it was a nobody, and they didn't! ;O) Take Care, Gnube {too thick for linux} |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:03:58 +0100, "Frank"
wrote: main problem with Agent and infact a lot of other news readers is the lack of native SSL suport I'd not be surprised if I got this wrong, but isn't that a Microsoft ploy to make the competition seem less attractive, and isn't security MS's major bug bear at present? According to the news of the last 36 hours, this "Blaster" thing seems to be making that point as I heard it. I realise it's only news at all because it's "the silly season", or we'd never have heard a word of it, but this is how it's being presented in the news just now. Take Care, Gnube {too thick for linux} |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 03:52:40 GMT, Exiddor wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:40:11 +0100, IMM wrote: [...] What other decent newsgroup editor/browser is available that is free? Dialog. See http://www.40tude.com/dialog/ Tried that, and while interesting, it din't work for me, shame as it looked quite promising at first, but the bugs got the better of my patience in the end, and that's how I came to stop using IE. Take Care, Gnube {too thick for linux} |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 08:36:54 +0100, Harvey Van Sickle
wrote: For well-regarded freeware of all kinds, take a look at www.pricelessware.org: they only list entirely free programs, and the results are from an annual vote by the readers of alt.comp.freeware. I'll give them a look over, another is webattack.com - they have a freeware section which has served me very well a lot of the time, better than average to be honest. Take Care, Gnube {too thick for linux} |
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ventured... What other decent newsgroup editor/browser is available that is free? I've been using MicroPlanet Gravity for some time. It supports filtering, kill files, etc. Unfortunately it's no longer officially supported, but I've just found these pages which offer some hope: http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tba...ty/start1.html -- Dr. Michael Atkinson, GeoQuest Simulation Software Development Note that email address in the headers is cleared monthly and NOT read. Contact me at (firstly removing the CAPS LOCK). |
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"Exiddor" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:07:04 +0100, Troy wrote: I've been using Dialog for some time and find it excellent. I did have problems with it when I was using Windows ME but since changing to XP they'e mostly disappeared :-) Well, I've been running Dialog under Windows ME without problems for more than 2 years. I used Agent for many years and never thought I'd change, but for me Dialog is what Agent *should* have been by now. Yep, my feelings exactly. Is it free and downloadable? And from where? --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 |
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IMM wrote:
Is it free and downloadable? And from where? This link was posted earlier in the thread. I'm just checking it out myself. http://www.40tude.com/dialog/ -- Ben Blaney GSF1200 VFR800 CBR600 CD200 "We stopped only for fuel" |
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writes IMM wrote: Is it free and downloadable? And from where? This link was posted earlier in the thread. I'm just checking it out myself. http://www.40tude.com/dialog/ BEN -IMM is our Clockwork Orange -- geoff |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:08:28 GMT, Grunff wrote
IMM wrote: Is it free and downloadable? Why does everything have to be free? When you buy plumbing fittings (Marley Equator I believe), do you ask if there's a free version? Whilst I agree entirely with this as a general point, the question that set off this discussion -- about 6 posts back -- was "What other decent newsgroup editor/browser is available that is free?". So the follow-up question was entirely consistent in a thread which is discussing that sub-group of news clients which are free, as opposed to the other sub-group of paid-for products. (I like free stuff; I'm very happy to pay for programs that do something I want; but I've got no problem separating the discussion of the two sub-groups.) -- Cheers, Harvey |
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Following a recent "discussion" in this NG ... "http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/ebusiness/story/0,2000048590,20277192,0 0.htm It might be the world's most widely distributed e-mail client, but Microsoft has confirmed that it has no intention of further developing Outlook Express." Well, I'm far from a fan of Micro$oft but I've tried all those recommended here and others and OE knocks spots of them for ease of use. |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: Is it free and downloadable? Why does everything have to be free? When you buy plumbing fittings (Marley Equator I believe), do you ask if there's a free version? I don't know of any free pipe fittings, but there is lots of free software about. So why pay? Will you please put me on your killfile. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 |
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"Capitol" wrote in message ... geoff wrote in message ... Following a recent "discussion" in this NG ... "http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/ebusiness/story/0,2000048590,20277192,0 0.htm It might be the world's most widely distributed e-mail client, but Microsoft has confirmed that it has no intention of further developing Outlook Express." -- geoff As I understand it, it will be supplanted by MS Outlook. Still be a sensible top posting system. Outlook does not support a newsreader only Outlook Express. Outlook is a half cocked attempt to emulate Lotus Notes. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 |
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BillR wrote:
Well, I'm far from a fan of Micro$oft but I've tried all those recommended here and others and OE knocks spots of them for ease of use. Yes, many virus writers would echo your thoughts... -- Grunff |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: Will you please put me on your killfile. That is quite possibly the stupidest request I've ever had!! If someone's ****ing you off, you don't beg them to killfile you, you killfile them. Which part of that logic defeats you? Why should you read my wisdom! Killfile me, me old boy! --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 |
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IMM wrote in message ... Outlook does not support a newsreader only Outlook Express. Outlook is a half cocked attempt to emulate Lotus Notes. That's the current version. Wait and see!! Regards Capitol |
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IMM wrote:
Why should you read my wisdom! Killfile me, me old boy! I find your posts entertaining in a curious perverse way - the Usenet equivalent of rubbernecking. -- Grunff |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:46:21 UTC, Grunff wrote:
IMM wrote: Will you please put me on your killfile. That is quite possibly the stupidest request I've ever had!! If someone's ****ing you off, you don't beg them to killfile you, you killfile them. Which part of that logic defeats you? It is already evident that most (if not all) logic defeats IMM. -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325*4; PS/2s 9585, 8595, 9595*2, 8580*3, P70, PC/AT.. |
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It is already evident that most (if not all) logic defeats IMM. I know, I know, I just can't help baiting him. -- Grunff |
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Regards Capitol Andy Hall wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:09:12 +0100, "Capitol" wrote: IMM wrote in message ... Outlook does not support a newsreader only Outlook Express. Outlook is a half cocked attempt to emulate Lotus Notes. That's the current version. Wait and see!! Regards Capitol God called a meeting of George Bush, Vladimir Putin and Bill Gates and said: "I've given you all the tools you needed to make a better world - you've blown it and I'm ending the world in two weeks." George Bush went on TV and said "I have good news and bad news. The good news is that God exists. The bad news is that the world will end in two weeks." Vladimir Putin called his advisors together and said "I have bad news and really bad news. The bad news is that God exists. The really bad news is that the world will end in two weeks." Bill Gates called his company groupies together and said "I have good news and really good news. The good news is that God thinks I am one of the three most powerful people in the world. The really good news is that we don't have to fix the bugs in Outlook Express" .andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:46:21 UTC, Grunff wrote: IMM wrote: Will you please put me on your killfile. That is quite possibly the stupidest request I've ever had!! If someone's ****ing you off, you don't beg them to killfile you, you killfile them. Which part of that logic defeats you? It is already evident that most (if not all) logic defeats IMM. It is clear that you would not know logic if it slapped you in the face. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On 14 Aug 2003 22:14:24 GMT, (Bob Eager) wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:46:21 UTC, Grunff wrote: IMM wrote: Will you please put me on your killfile. That is quite possibly the stupidest request I've ever had!! If someone's ****ing you off, you don't beg them to killfile you, you killfile them. Which part of that logic defeats you? It is already evident that most (if not all) logic defeats IMM. I wonder if it's a matter/anti-matter thing? "The engines will nae take it captain", etc... So you are one of those too. I always wondered what sort of people watched Sky 1. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 05/08/2003 |
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IMM wrote:
So you watch Sky 1 too. Boy this ng is full of spotters.......who wear CAT boots. My God!! Don't have Sky, or CAT boots. Don't believe in God either. -- Grunff |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: So you watch Sky 1 too. Boy this ng is full of spotters.......who wear CAT boots. My God!! Don't have Sky, or CAT boots. Don't believe in God either. Are you the anti-Christ? --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 05/08/2003 |
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IMM wrote:
Don't have Sky, or CAT boots. Don't believe in God either. Are you the anti-Christ? What, because I don't wear CAT boots? Because I don't have Sky? -- Grunff |
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:28:17 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
"Grunff" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: So you are one of those too. I always wondered what sort of people watched Sky 1. Now look here - you can say what you like about magnetic water softeners, talk as much crap as you like about insulation, and come up with all manner of bizzare theories which violate all known laws of physics, Do you know what physics is? but I *won't* hear a word against Star Trek. So you watch Sky 1 too. Boy this ng is full of spotters.......who wear CAT boots. My God!! What did you want? ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:28:17 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "Grunff" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: So you are one of those too. I always wondered what sort of people watched Sky 1. Now look here - you can say what you like about magnetic water softeners, talk as much crap as you like about insulation, and come up with all manner of bizzare theories which violate all known laws of physics, Do you know what physics is? but I *won't* hear a word against Star Trek. So you watch Sky 1 too. Boy this ng is full of spotters.......who wear CAT boots. My God!! What did you want? Another spotter! --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 05/08/2003 |
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IMM wrote: So you watch Sky 1 too. Boy this ng is full of spotters.......who wear CAT boots. My God!! Absolutely. Your DeWalts are much more fetching. -- *I speak fluent patriarchy but it's not my mother tongue Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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IMM wrote:
Because of everything. Do you ever actually read your posts? Do they make sense in your world? "Are you the antiChrist..." "Why..." "Because of everything" ?? -- Grunff |
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