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Over the last couple of weeks, I've found 5 beetles wandering about in
my house. 4 on the 2nd floor and one in the first floor bathroom,
suprisingly, none on the ground floor.

They're quite big. 1/2" in size and black. I really don't like sharing
my bed with these critters and I can't think where they might be coming
from. They can't have all flown in through the window can they?

Has anyone got any ideas of where I should be looking or what might be
attracting them?

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Over the last couple of weeks, I've found 5 beetles wandering about in
my house. 4 on the 2nd floor and one in the first floor bathroom,
suprisingly, none on the ground floor.

They're quite big. 1/2" in size and black. I really don't like sharing
my bed with these critters and I can't think where they might be coming
from. They can't have all flown in through the window can they?

Has anyone got any ideas of where I should be looking or what might be
attracting them?

Your roof void could be harbouring them. Did you have birds nesting in your
eaves or on the roof itself?


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Your roof void could be harbouring them. Did you have birds nesting in your
eaves or on the roof itself?


Ugh, don't tell me I'm going to have to venture in to the loft? It's
dark up there!

I have to say, I don't look up there much. I haven't noticed any
accumulated droppings on the floor (that's a sign of a nest, right?)

Last year, a pidgeon kept fluttering past the bedroom windows, I
wondered if it was nesting. Is that too long ago to be significant?

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Your roof void could be harbouring them. Did you have birds nesting in

your
eaves or on the roof itself?


Ugh, don't tell me I'm going to have to venture in to the loft? It's
dark up there!

I have to say, I don't look up there much. I haven't noticed any
accumulated droppings on the floor (that's a sign of a nest, right?)

Last year, a pidgeon kept fluttering past the bedroom windows, I
wondered if it was nesting. Is that too long ago to be significant?


Pigeons last year would be a bit to long ago I'd have thought, so something
more recent than that really. Have the pigeons returns? Maybe not to the
same spot in the roof space though. It may even be bats or other types of
bird nesting that could be somewhere in the loft space or another void that
is open to them.

Beetles are the types of things you also find around rotting wood, depending
on their type of course, so it might be a sign of a small yet un-noticed
leak or dry mould somewhere.

Not knowing what type of beetle they are for sure, so the diagnosis is only
coming from things that it could be that attract beetles.


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Not knowing what type of beetle they are for sure, so the diagnosis is only
coming from things that it could be that attract beetles.


I've had a look around the web, and the beetles I've seen look
frightningly similar to these critters...

http://www.the-piedpiper.co.uk/th7h.htm



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Not knowing what type of beetle they are for sure, so the diagnosis is

only
coming from things that it could be that attract beetles.


I've had a look around the web, and the beetles I've seen look
frightningly similar to these critters...

http://www.the-piedpiper.co.uk/th7h.htm


That's what I thought. They live on the left overs of where birds and
things have made nests. They aren't a pest, as it says on the site you
linked to, but they can breed and make life hell if they have a constant
food supply. They also return to places where they have not been disturbed,
for their breeding cycle. It might be a good idea to have a look around for
a recent birds nest or squirrel lair around the house.

Have you noticed any fox runs anywhere around your property?

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:40:29 GMT, "BigWallop"
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Beetles are the types of things you also find around rotting wood,


No you don't. There are very few UK beetle species that will be
attracted by rotting wood (meaning indoor construction timber, not
treestumps). It'll attract woodlice like a magnet, but not beetles

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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:40:29 GMT, "BigWallop"
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Beetles are the types of things you also find around rotting wood,


No you don't. There are very few UK beetle species that will be
attracted by rotting wood (meaning indoor construction timber, not
treestumps). It'll attract woodlice like a magnet, but not beetles


I'm glad you said that, Andy, I was going to but thought better of it - it's
important to be believed :-)

Mary



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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:51:02 +0100, Andy Dingley wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:40:29 GMT, "BigWallop"
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Beetles are the types of things you also find around rotting wood,


No you don't. There are very few UK beetle species that will be
attracted by rotting wood (meaning indoor construction timber, not
treestumps). It'll attract woodlice like a magnet, but not beetles


You are sure they are not June bugs?
They fly around the Westcountry at this time of year and have hard wing
casings which crunch alarmingly when you step on them. More alarming for
them I guess. Don't do a lot of harm I think unless you eat too many.
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:40:29 GMT, "BigWallop"
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Beetles are the types of things you also find around rotting wood,


No you don't. There are very few UK beetle species that will be
attracted by rotting wood (meaning indoor construction timber, not
treestumps). It'll attract woodlice like a magnet, but not beetles

OH OH!!! You'd better the beetles that then. There have been many
sightings of foreign imports to this country in the last few decades, and
they all seem to be thriving.

http://www.kendall-bioresearch.co.uk/woodworm.htm gives a few bits of info'
on these bugs, and the whole site has many pages full of the different
creepy crawlies you'll find on our shores.




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The beetles are probably feeding on a corpse

If you're trying to make me feel better about this infestation, it
isn't working.


Besides, I keep all my dead bodies in the freezer and that's in the
basement.

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:25:36 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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What's your problem?


If I eat 2 pizas plius 2 cabsov next morning I have a distended belly.

I think my problem is wheat intolerreance.
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:25:36 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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What's your problem?


If I eat 2 pizas plius 2 cabsov next morning I have a distended belly.

I think my problem is wheat intolerreance.


There's no wheat in green slugs.

Mary


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On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:12:13 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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There's no wheat in green slugs.


As Shirley Conran said in one of her cookbooks,
"Life's too short to stuff a slug"

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You might want to see what your local council's pest control dept has to
say about them (have you kept a specimen?). They usually provide
reasonably cost effective eradication services too.


It's a black beetle for heaven's sake. They don't pose any harm at all to
humans. Leave them alone and marvel at the beauty of nature.

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Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) wrote:
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You might want to see what your local council's pest control dept has to
say about them (have you kept a specimen?). They usually provide
reasonably cost effective eradication services too.



It's a black beetle for heaven's sake. They don't pose any harm at all to
humans. Leave them alone and marvel at the beauty of nature.


IMO its worth finding out more if they are bothering the OP (which is
seems they are). At least then you might have an idea why they are
appearing in the house on the 1st & 2nd floors.

There are five so far, which is no problem to anyone, if there were more
on the way then they might become a nuisance, hence eradication info
might be desirable.

Its a question of scale really and of the location of the marvels of nature.

Alex
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IMO its worth finding out more if they are bothering the OP (which is
seems they are).


I've asked in what way they're bothering him - no reply as yet.

Mary


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"Mary Fisher" wrote:

IMO its worth finding out more if they are bothering the OP (which is
seems they are).


I've asked in what way they're bothering him - no reply as yet.


Yes - we noticed! Bloody hell, you've done it now ....

For chrissake Mary -- I wish I were half as effing perfect as you a
3 of every 4 posts you make (here and elsewhere) are full of smug
little lectures to people on how they ought to improve themselves, and
how 'this', 'that' or 'the other' has never bothered _you_, or how
_you_ have been doing it for years, or how people might like to emulate
your own perfect little life in some way or another.

Did it ever occur to you that the Original Poster might have a phobia
for insects, beetles, or whatever?

Did it ever occur to you that he might actually love beetles, but not in
those numbers, and not in his flipping bedroom?

Do you have no phobias? (i.e. unreasoning horror of a particular
thing)? Ah yes you do: you can't stand people not coming up to your own
standards, can you. What did you do before you retired? Headmistress
in a private Girls' Finishing School?

"Hope this helps"

John

p.s. to the OP: check that page where you found your beetle pictu
http://www.the-piedpiper.co.uk/th7h.htm ... you may not have
sufficient night light discipline!
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in news:42d5001c$0$28623
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I've asked in what way they're bothering him - no reply as yet.

Well said, John.

And if you stopped preaching for a second and looked at the post....

"They're quite big. 1/2" in size and black. I really don't like sharing
my bed with these critters "

What more do you need? Or is it just that annoyedtuna'a reasons are not
good enough for you, and therefore not acceptable?

mike

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IMO its worth finding out more if they are bothering the OP (which is
seems they are).


Oh dear what a shame. Some strange nature phobia perhaps?

There are five so far, which is no problem to anyone, if there were more
on the way then they might become a nuisance, hence eradication info
might be desirable.


No, not desirable at all. If there is a real problem, then you prevent them
getting in, not kill them.


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Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) wrote:
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No, not desirable at all. If there is a real problem, then you prevent them
getting in, not kill them.



Hmm ... OK agree with that if feasible, and assuming they are coming
from outside. But...

What if the source of the of the beetles is something within the
building or fabric of the building, rotten timber or something else for
example. If removal of habitat is no feasible then eradication /might/
be the answer.

We have some very old beams with some very big flight holes, uninhabited
for many years, but if active I would not wan't whatever was in them
dropping on me whilst I am sleeping - phobia or not.

Also, might need to know more about habitat pref's etc of said
unidentified beetle to understand likeley entry points etc etc.

Alex.
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On 13 Jul 2005 22:06:34 GMT, Rod wrote:

I thought that the ovipositor was
the most frightening sting ever. But apparently harmless to humans.


Harmless to Sigourney Weaver maybe.


OTOH, put yourself in the wasp's position. That's its knob you're
talking about, not a sting. It may well feel quite protective about the
thing and not at all likely to go jabbing it into critters who have
evolved opposable thumbs to hold fly swatters with.
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Tonight I saw my first ever Horntail (aka Horsetail or Wood Wasp -
Urocerus
gigas, I think), on our kitchen curtain. I thought that the ovipositor was
the most frightening sting ever. But apparently harmless to humans.

http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/R69966.HTM

I would hate to meet one of these in the bathroom!!!


Even though it's harmless to humans?

You're unlikely to see it in your bathroom, it's unusual for them to go into
a house.

Mary

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Tonight I saw my first ever Horntail (aka Horsetail or Wood Wasp -
Urocerus
gigas, I think), on our kitchen curtain. I thought that the ovipositor was
the most frightening sting ever. But apparently harmless to humans.

http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/R69966.HTM

I would hate to meet one of these in the bathroom!!!


Even though it's harmless to humans?

You're unlikely to see it in your bathroom, it's unusual for them to go into
a house.

What, they don't shower every day

disgusting

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Even though it's harmless to humans?


Yes - bleary eyed, half asleep in the middle of the night. Definitely not
what I want to see.

You're unlikely to see it in your bathroom, it's unusual for them to
go into a house.


Are they more common in kitchens? That's where ours was.

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Even though it's harmless to humans?


Yes - bleary eyed, half asleep in the middle of the night. Definitely not
what I want to see.

You're unlikely to see it in your bathroom, it's unusual for them to
go into a house.


Are they more common in kitchens? That's where ours was.


Is your kitchen in your house?

If so, no.

Mary

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"Mary Fisher" wrote in
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Are they more common in kitchens? That's where ours was.


Is your kitchen in your house?

If so, no.


Yes - pretty standard kitchen-like location - inside the house, in fact
just inside the back door.

So chances of finding one indoors at all = low.
and, of the rooms to find one in, kitchen approx. = bathroom?

Hence dislike of idea of finding one in bathroom is as well-founded as a
similar feeling that others may have about the kitchen?

Both rooms had windows open.

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