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Flue location dilemma.
Having whipped out old boiler, ready for install of new, we have come
across a query WRT flue location. Original flue was facing outwards towards next door neighbours garage about 7' away with property boundary mid way. We are informed this is now not possible under current legislation. The house is built on a steep slope, so, the other option is send the flue out the front of the house into front garden, but due to hill, the flue would emerge about 12" above ground level. Would this be acceptable or are we going to have to route flue out and up from either location? Cheers Pete -- http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK. http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL! http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers. http://gymratz.co.uk/hot-seat.htm - Live web-cam! (sometimes) |
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Would this be acceptable or are we going to have to route flue out and
up from either location? Route it up. I wouldn't put an ugly flue on the front of the property, but a vertical flue and terminal on the side of the house won't look much different from a soil pipe. Christian. |
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In article , Pet @
www.gymratz.co.uk writes Having whipped out old boiler, ready for install of new, we have come across a query WRT flue location. Original flue was facing outwards towards next door neighbours garage about 7' away with property boundary mid way. We are informed this is now not possible under current legislation. I can't see anything wrong with this, have you been given any specifics? From a gas fitting site: "600 mm from any surface, structure, fence or boundary facing the terminal" seems to cover it. -- fred |
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Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk wrote:
Having whipped out old boiler, ready for install of new, we have come across a query WRT flue location. Original flue was facing outwards towards next door neighbours garage about 7' away with property boundary mid way. We are informed this is now not possible under current legislation. I would have thought 7' would be enough, might be different if their house wall was right on the boundary.... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk wrote:
Having whipped out old boiler, ready for install of new, we have come across a query WRT flue location. snip 's OK. Just had a word with a man that is in the know who has advised the only stipulation is the tip of the flue must be no closer than 30 cm to the boundary line, and if installed in the other location it just needs a cage over the flue. Which I suppose is outdated legislation as gasses are not hot, but it might prevent hedgehogs and mice scuttling in. -- http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK. http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL! http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers. http://gymratz.co.uk/hot-seat.htm - Live web-cam! (sometimes) |
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Christian McArdle wrote:
Route it up. I wouldn't put an ugly flue on the front of the property Technically it's not on the "front" as it's a sort of "cut away" bit of the house which has a wilderness of plants that hide the gas meter box and isn't visible from the front of the house. On a side note, just for information, he also said in view of numerous letters he has sent to the HSE? (or which ever government(?) official is responsible for gas installation regulations etc) with regards to part L and the cumpolsory installation of condensing boilers, Part L is under review with regards to possible infringement of freedom of choice etc. and the restriction of trade with regrads to manufacturers which may have warehouses of un-saleable stock etc. Also.... :¬) the "nusiance" factor of artificially created fog/smog ... e.g. every household has a condensing boiler, all of which will be running flat out say between 07:00 and 09:00 (rush hour)on a cold winters morning could present very significant problems. Don't take it as gospell, but it all makes sense to me. -- http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK. http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL! http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers. http://gymratz.co.uk/hot-seat.htm - Live web-cam! (sometimes) |
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Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk wrote:
Also.... :¬) the "nusiance" factor of artificially created fog/smog ... e.g. every household has a condensing boiler, all of which will be running flat out say between 07:00 and 09:00 (rush hour)on a cold winters morning could present very significant problems. That has to be complete nonsense when you think about it. There is actually more water vapour present in the exhaust of a conventional boiler than there is in that of a condenser. The only difference is that on a conventional boiler that exhaust gas temperature is higher, so the conversion back to visible water vapour will occur some distance from the flue (where it is now more dispersed and hence less visible). -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm wrote:
That has to be complete nonsense when you think about it. There is actually more water vapour present in the exhaust of a conventional boiler than there is in that of a condenser. The only difference is that on a conventional boiler that exhaust gas temperature is higher, so the conversion back to visible water vapour will occur some distance from the flue (where it is now more dispersed and hence less visible). Guess so. but..... clutching at straws the hotter gasses of conventional would and do make the gasses go up even on the coldest days, whereas the colder gases from condensor would be more localised and at a more inconvienient hight? -- http://gymratz.co.uk - Best Gym Equipment & Bodybuilding Supplements UK. http://trade-price-supplements.co.uk - TRADE PRICED SUPPLEMENTS for ALL! http://fitness-equipment-uk.com - UK's No.1 Fitness Equipment Suppliers. http://gymratz.co.uk/hot-seat.htm - Live web-cam! (sometimes) |
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In article , Pet @
www.gymratz.co.uk wrote: Part L is under review with regards to possible infringement of freedom of choice etc. and the restriction of trade with regrads to manufacturers which may have warehouses of un-saleable stock etc. That's a new on me - how long have the new condensing-only (with exceptions) rules been flagged up - 12 months or more. Anyone in any manufacturing business, regs affected or not, who has warehouses of unsaleable stock probably shouldn't be in business. -- Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk Free SEDBUK boiler database browser http://www.sda.co.uk/qsedbuk.htm [Latest version QSEDBUK 1.10 released 4 April 2005] |
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:45:26 +0100, Tony Bryer wrote:
In article , Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk wrote: Part L is under review with regards to possible infringement of freedom of choice etc. and the restriction of trade with regrads to manufacturers which may have warehouses of un-saleable stock etc. That's a new on me - how long have the new condensing-only (with exceptions) rules been flagged up - 12 months or more. Anyone in any manufacturing business, regs affected or not, who has warehouses of unsaleable stock probably shouldn't be in business. There is a flourishing "under the counter" trade of non-condensors at the moment. A basic combi can be gotten from 310+VAT. It would not be a unit I would choose... -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html |
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