Hi


I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...


1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.

2. Omit fuse box,

2.5 omit fuse in plug.

3. Lights, wire them on bellwire

4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.

5. Omit Earth

6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.

7. Omit RCD.


What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?


NT

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Hi


I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...


1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.

2. Omit fuse box,

2.5 omit fuse in plug.

3. Lights, wire them on bellwire

4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.

5. Omit Earth

6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.

7. Omit RCD.


What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?


NT


Sounds like the old wiring in The Pub in Rose Street Edinburgh. :-)

On 13 May 2005 16:53:08 -0700, wrote:

Hi


I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...


1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.

2. Omit fuse box,

2.5 omit fuse in plug.

3. Lights, wire them on bellwire

4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.

5. Omit Earth

6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.

7. Omit RCD.


What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?


NT


for extra saving u could always run the bell wire next door and tap
into there kiddies game boy, or there phone charger, only use pink
coloured bell wire though as they may spot it else
regards

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3. Lights, wire them on bellwire



What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?

My previous owner used bellwire, and tapped in to a power circuit; I
hesitate to say "ring" - that area is still very confusing.

mike

wrote:
Hi
I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...

1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.

What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?

No doubt *some* Travellers with their caravan and a nearby council
street light.

---
Adrian

wrote:
Hi


I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...


1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.

2. Omit fuse box,

2.5 omit fuse in plug.

3. Lights, wire them on bellwire

4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.

5. Omit Earth

6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.

7. Omit RCD.


What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone
has
ever done such?


NT

I'll give it another day before responding

NT

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wrote:
What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?

Oh yes. I went to his funeral.

--
*You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

wrote:
I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...
1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.
2. Omit fuse box,
2.5 omit fuse in plug.
3. Lights, wire them on bellwire
4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.
5. Omit Earth
6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.
7. Omit RCD.
What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?

I'm sure they have and, AIUI, if it was from a private generator it
would even be compliant with Part P :-)

Owain

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
wrote:

Hi


I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...


1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.

2. Omit fuse box,

2.5 omit fuse in plug.

3. Lights, wire them on bellwire

4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.

5. Omit Earth

6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.

7. Omit RCD.


What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone
has ever done such?


NT

Your detailed description suggests that you've actually come across such an
"installation". Have you?
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On 14 May 2005 09:22:19 GMT, mike ring
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:


3. Lights, wire them on bellwire



What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?

My previous owner used bellwire, and tapped in to a power circuit; I
hesitate to say "ring" - that area is still very confusing.

It must have been a ring if it was wired with bell wire.

:-)

--
Frank Erskine

if you did a installation like that and then called in the council to check
it they would prob pass it for part "p" as they still have no idea on what
to check for around here
"Set Square" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
wrote:

Hi


I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...


1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.

2. Omit fuse box,

2.5 omit fuse in plug.

3. Lights, wire them on bellwire

4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.

5. Omit Earth

6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.

7. Omit RCD.


What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone
has ever done such?


NT

Your detailed description suggests that you've actually come across such
an
"installation". Have you?
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Cheers,
Set Square
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wrote in message
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Hi


I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...


1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.

Sounds OK if that is all you need, (if the place is small, your vacuum
cleaner has a really long lead, or you have a central cleaning system, or
maybe you don't vacuum!)

2. Omit fuse box,

With just one socket, you probably don't need to bother with one I suppose

2.5 omit fuse in plug.

Just like the do in Europe

3. Lights, wire them on bellwire

Should be OK, make sure you use the bell wire used on a bell that would draw
about 30A

4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.

This can be done, as long as you don't need to move them about

5. Omit Earth

This is fine, just make sure you entire house is isolated from the earth and
bond everything metal together, including the central protective conductor
on the wire connected to your socket and fixed appliances.

6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.

You may be able to get them to fit you a 20A one if you ask

7. Omit RCD.

As long as the socket wont be used for anything in the garden, this should
be fine

What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?

It does sound a little but restrictive, but if it is all you need, the go
for it!

NT

wrote in message
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Hi


I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...

1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.
2. Omit fuse box,
2.5 omit fuse in plug.
3. Lights, wire them on bellwire
4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.
5. Omit Earth
6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.
7. Omit RCD.

What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?

NT

What's the advantage?

Mary

Frank Erskine wrote in
:


My previous owner used bellwire, and tapped in to a power circuit; I
hesitate to say "ring" - that area is still very confusing.

It must have been a ring if it was wired with bell wire.

Did you have a coat - I can't seem to find it?

mike

Mary Fisher wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...

1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.
2. Omit fuse box,
2.5 omit fuse in plug.
3. Lights, wire them on bellwire
4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.
5. Omit Earth
6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.
7. Omit RCD.

What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?

What's the advantage?

Wouldn't cost much I spose, would it?.

C'mon NT, tell us all about it then...!!

David

Mary Fisher wrote:
wrote in message
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Hi


I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...

1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.
2. Omit fuse box,
2.5 omit fuse in plug.
3. Lights, wire them on bellwire
4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.
5. Omit Earth
6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.
7. Omit RCD.

What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone
has ever done such?

NT

What's the advantage?


He gets the insurance money when his 'other half' turns on the cooker and
drops a pan on the hob :-)


Brian G

"Lobster" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...

1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.
2. Omit fuse box,
2.5 omit fuse in plug.
3. Lights, wire them on bellwire
4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.
5. Omit Earth
6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.
7. Omit RCD.

What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone has
ever done such?

What's the advantage?

Wouldn't cost much I spose, would it?.

C'mon NT, tell us all about it then...!!

Yes. We're waiting ... arms folded and rolling pin in hand ...

Mary

David

Lobster wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

I was thinking about a minimal cost electrical install...

1. Just have one single socket for the whole place.
2. Omit fuse box,
2.5 omit fuse in plug.
3. Lights, wire them on bellwire
4. Appliances, wire them all direct in, no need for plugs.
5. Omit Earth
6. Omit all Fuses but one at the supply.
7. Omit RCD.

What do you think of an installation like this? Do you think anyone
has
ever done such?

What's the advantage?

Wouldn't cost much I spose, would it?.

exactly.


C'mon NT, tell us all about it then...!!

OK, I do know someone that has an install like this, no exaggeration.
Havent seen it yet. Have been trying to convert them to the novel idea
of appliance plugs. It turns out this is standard practice in a certain
area. Guess where...


NT

wrote in message
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C'mon NT, tell us all about it then...!!

OK, I do know someone that has an install like this, no exaggeration.
Havent seen it yet. Have been trying to convert them to the novel idea
of appliance plugs. It turns out this is standard practice in a certain
area. Guess where...

Basildon?

Mary


NT

Mary Fisher wrote:
wrote in message
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C'mon NT, tell us all about it then...!!

OK, I do know someone that has an install like this, no
exaggeration.
Havent seen it yet. Have been trying to convert them to the novel
idea
of appliance plugs. It turns out this is standard practice in a
certain
area. Guess where...

Africa. Its standard installation practice. The 2 reported problems are
the tendency for the mains plugs to go bang, and need replacing, and
the tendency for nasty electric shocks.

I was wondering... would it be part p compliant?


NT

wrote in message
oups.com...
Mary Fisher wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

C'mon NT, tell us all about it then...!!

OK, I do know someone that has an install like this, no
exaggeration.
Havent seen it yet. Have been trying to convert them to the novel
idea
of appliance plugs. It turns out this is standard practice in a
certain
area. Guess where...

Africa. Its standard installation practice. The 2 reported problems are
the tendency for the mains plugs to go bang, and need replacing, and
the tendency for nasty electric shocks.

I was wondering... would it be part p compliant?

Why don't you just read Part P instead of doing the easy thing and asking
us?

:-)

Mary

wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:

wrote in message
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C'mon NT, tell us all about it then...!!


OK, I do know someone that has an install like this, no

exaggeration.

Havent seen it yet. Have been trying to convert them to the novel

idea

of appliance plugs. It turns out this is standard practice in a

certain

area. Guess where...


Africa. Its standard installation practice. The 2 reported problems are
the tendency for the mains plugs to go bang, and need replacing, and
the tendency for nasty electric shocks.

I remember seeing something on TV in the last year or so about,
somewhere in Eastern Europe, where they want Western companies to come
in and invest in development of the electricity grid etc. However, the
residents don't like paying for their electricity and they have a
serious problem where people are re-wriring their local sub-stations and
just running their own cables to the local box and stealing the
electricity. They had pictures of what was being done - and it looked
shocking. How anyone managed to wire up all the 100 or so cables
running into this box whilst it was live I don't know. I think the
problem was, the number of powercuts they had - people didn't want to
pay for the poor service so they started stealing it, which in turn
reduced the money they received, which meant more powercuts... ( I
guess they did the re-wiring during one such cut).

D

David Hearn wrote:

I remember seeing something on TV in the last year or so about,
somewhere in Eastern Europe, where they want Western companies to
come
in and invest in development of the electricity grid etc. However,
the
residents don't like paying for their electricity and they have a
serious problem where people are re-wriring their local sub-stations
and
just running their own cables to the local box and stealing the
electricity. They had pictures of what was being done - and it
looked
shocking. How anyone managed to wire up all the 100 or so cables
running into this box whilst it was live I don't know. I think the
problem was, the number of powercuts they had - people didn't want to

pay for the poor service so they started stealing it, which in turn
reduced the money they received, which meant more powercuts... ( I
guess they did the re-wiring during one such cut).

D

Its really not difficult to work on live wiring. It is a bit of a risk,
but theres always folks desperate enough to take a risk.

NT