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making a 3x12 from 3x6
I have my roof rafters up, made from 3x6, I am putting a roofligt in, which needs additional framing, 150mm thick. The plan is to attach another 3x6 to the existing 3x6, making a 3x12. I can see ways to attach the ends, with the cross members, but what is the most sensible way to attach the pieces in the middle ? Options so far are 1) bolts right through - don't like this cause you will see the ends 2) screws - put in at angles need the touching edges Any better options, 10 inch nails would do me, but I don't know anywhere that sells such a thing. Thanks Rick |
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"Rick" wrote in message ... I have my roof rafters up, made from 3x6, I am putting a roofligt in, which needs additional framing, 150mm thick. The plan is to attach another 3x6 to the existing 3x6, making a 3x12. I can see ways to attach the ends, with the cross members, but what is the most sensible way to attach the pieces in the middle ? Options so far are 1) bolts right through - don't like this cause you will see the ends 2) screws - put in at angles need the touching edges Any better options, 10 inch nails would do me, but I don't know anywhere that sells such a thing. Thanks Rick Are you sure you are reading the plans and the instructions right. Its usally to double up the rafter side by side around a Velux roof light, two 6" x 3" making a total width of 6" x 6" not 12" x 3". Theses are just nailed together with 4" or 5" nail from both sides. The extra rafter sometimes goes from ridge tree to centre perlin and somtimes from wall plate to ridge tree. or wall plate to centre perlin. Keith |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:58:10 GMT, "keith_765"
wrote: "Rick" wrote in message .. . I have my roof rafters up, made from 3x6, I am putting a roofligt in, which needs additional framing, 150mm thick. The plan is to attach another 3x6 to the existing 3x6, making a 3x12. I can see ways to attach the ends, with the cross members, but what is the most sensible way to attach the pieces in the middle ? Options so far are 1) bolts right through - don't like this cause you will see the ends 2) screws - put in at angles need the touching edges Any better options, 10 inch nails would do me, but I don't know anywhere that sells such a thing. Thanks Rick Are you sure you are reading the plans and the instructions right. Its usally to double up the rafter side by side around a Velux roof light, two 6" x 3" making a total width of 6" x 6" not 12" x 3". Theses are just nailed together with 4" or 5" nail from both sides. The extra rafter sometimes goes from ridge tree to centre perlin and somtimes from wall plate to ridge tree. or wall plate to centre perlin. Keith I'm not using velux - way way too expensive. The velux has depth, these windows I have orders don't they are a galzing bar system (like a conservatoory roof) that sit on a frame that I build, 50-75mm above the finished roof level. As I intend to have 100mm of kingspan "over rafter" I have a lot of height to gain. I can't have too much kingspan "between rafter" as I have exposed rafters. The velux also look a bit dappy when you have too many, my window is 1200X2400mm each side of the ridge, sat on the frame, sat on the rafters at 600mm centers. Rick |
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How about building up using three 3x2 sections, that way you could nail or
screw using standard sizes. Alternatively , counterbore the top 3x6 from above and screw down to the rafter - big counterbore/countersink and getting the angle right would be quite important. -- KEVIN BRADY, Oxford _____________________ replies to newsgroup only mail to reply address is automatically deleted from server "Rick" wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:58:10 GMT, "keith_765" wrote: "Rick" wrote in message . .. I have my roof rafters up, made from 3x6, I am putting a roofligt in, which needs additional framing, 150mm thick. The plan is to attach another 3x6 to the existing 3x6, making a 3x12. I can see ways to attach the ends, with the cross members, but what is the most sensible way to attach the pieces in the middle ? Options so far are 1) bolts right through - don't like this cause you will see the ends 2) screws - put in at angles need the touching edges Any better options, 10 inch nails would do me, but I don't know anywhere that sells such a thing. Thanks Rick Are you sure you are reading the plans and the instructions right. Its usally to double up the rafter side by side around a Velux roof light, two 6" x 3" making a total width of 6" x 6" not 12" x 3". Theses are just nailed together with 4" or 5" nail from both sides. The extra rafter sometimes goes from ridge tree to centre perlin and somtimes from wall plate to ridge tree. or wall plate to centre perlin. Keith I'm not using velux - way way too expensive. The velux has depth, these windows I have orders don't they are a galzing bar system (like a conservatoory roof) that sit on a frame that I build, 50-75mm above the finished roof level. As I intend to have 100mm of kingspan "over rafter" I have a lot of height to gain. I can't have too much kingspan "between rafter" as I have exposed rafters. The velux also look a bit dappy when you have too many, my window is 1200X2400mm each side of the ridge, sat on the frame, sat on the rafters at 600mm centers. Rick |
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Rick wrote:
I have my roof rafters up, made from 3x6, I am putting a roofligt in, which needs additional framing, 150mm thick. The plan is to attach another 3x6 to the existing 3x6, making a 3x12. I can see ways to attach the ends, with the cross members, but what is the most sensible way to attach the pieces in the middle ? Options so far are 1) bolts right through - don't like this cause you will see the ends 2) screws - put in at angles need the touching edges Any better options, 10 inch nails would do me, but I don't know anywhere that sells such a thing. Thanks Rick Never tried anything like this BTW, but: How about dowels/biscuits on each internal edge? A bit esoteric but how about long dowels pegs instead of bolts, you will still be able to see the ends, but they will look nice. Or recessed long bolts/studding and dowel plugs hiding them ... which might be easiest? HTH, Alex. |
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"Rick" wrote in message ... I have my roof rafters up, made from 3x6, I am putting a roofligt in, which needs additional framing, 150mm thick. The plan is to attach another 3x6 to the existing 3x6, making a 3x12. I can see ways to attach the ends, with the cross members, but what is the most sensible way to attach the pieces in the middle ? Options so far are 1) bolts right through - don't like this cause you will see the ends 2) screws - put in at angles need the touching edges Any better options, 10 inch nails would do me, but I don't know anywhere that sells such a thing. Use 9" Spax screws. B&Q stock them. |
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 03:18:04 +0100, "Mike" wrote:
"Rick" wrote in message .. . I have my roof rafters up, made from 3x6, I am putting a roofligt in, which needs additional framing, 150mm thick. The plan is to attach another 3x6 to the existing 3x6, making a 3x12. I can see ways to attach the ends, with the cross members, but what is the most sensible way to attach the pieces in the middle ? Options so far are 1) bolts right through - don't like this cause you will see the ends 2) screws - put in at angles need the touching edges Any better options, 10 inch nails would do me, but I don't know anywhere that sells such a thing. Use 9" Spax screws. B&Q stock them. Thanks Rick |
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