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Need a chainsaw?
You guys have to check this out! What a way
to put together a chain saw, eih? ;)} phil http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=689_1393758243 |
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On Sunday, March 2, 2014 9:03:03 PM UTC-5, Phil Kangas wrote:
You guys have to check this out! What a way to put together a chain saw, eih? ;)} phil http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=689_1393758243 Replace the fasteners with some thumbscrews, and it's an infomercial best-seller. If only it also made julienne fries... |
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On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 21:03:03 -0500, "Phil Kangas"
wrote: You guys have to check this out! What a way to put together a chain saw, eih? ;)} Where are you guys coming up with this "eih" word, anyway? I've seen several of you use it recently. Here's the old standard spelling, and it's more frugal, only 2 letters! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eh http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=689_1393758243 That's birch, a fairly hard hardwood. The little guy cuts quickly! I'll bet it takes considerably fewer watts than my HF chainsaw and might work off my solar power system with the inverter. Hmm... Cool! I'll have to take the old bar, chain, and sprocket from the broken Remington 14" electric and make a new saur from them as a backup to my 14" Harbor Fright jobber. Just TIG the sprocket onto a spare nut from the grinder, bend a few pieces of 1/4" plate and Bob's Yer Uncle. I think I'd want to oil the hell out of it frequently, though. It's running faster than normal, methinks. -- Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. -- John Quincy Adams |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 21:03:03 -0500, "Phil Kangas" wrote: You guys have to check this out! What a way to put together a chain saw, eih? ;)} Where are you guys coming up with this "eih" word, anyway? I've seen several of you use it recently. Here's the old standard spelling, and it's more frugal, only 2 letters! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eh http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=689_1393758243 That's birch, a fairly hard hardwood. The little guy cuts quickly! I'll bet it takes considerably fewer watts than my HF chainsaw and might work off my solar power system with the inverter. Hmm... Cool! I'll have to take the old bar, chain, and sprocket from the broken Remington 14" electric and make a new saur from them as a backup to my 14" Harbor Fright jobber. Just TIG the sprocket onto a spare nut from the grinder, bend a few pieces of 1/4" plate and Bob's Yer Uncle. I think I'd want to oil the hell out of it frequently, though. It's running faster than normal, methinks. Getting hit with a broken chin would ruin your day, and maybe your life. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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On 3/2/2014 11:19 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 21:03:03 -0500, "Phil Kangas" wrote: You guys have to check this out! What a way to put together a chain saw, eih? ;)} Where are you guys coming up with this "eih" word, anyway? I've seen several of you use it recently. Here's the old standard spelling, and it's more frugal, only 2 letters! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eh http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=689_1393758243 That's birch, a fairly hard hardwood. The little guy cuts quickly! I'll bet it takes considerably fewer watts than my HF chainsaw and might work off my solar power system with the inverter. Hmm... Cool! I'll have to take the old bar, chain, and sprocket from the broken Remington 14" electric and make a new saur from them as a backup to my 14" Harbor Fright jobber. Just TIG the sprocket onto a spare nut from the grinder, bend a few pieces of 1/4" plate and Bob's Yer Uncle. I think I'd want to oil the hell out of it frequently, though. It's running faster than normal, methinks. -- Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. -- John Quincy Adams You'll notice the chain is loose on the bar too. But, still a good idea! |
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 00:48:41 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 21:03:03 -0500, "Phil Kangas" wrote: You guys have to check this out! What a way to put together a chain saw, eih? ;)} Where are you guys coming up with this "eih" word, anyway? I've seen several of you use it recently. Here's the old standard spelling, and it's more frugal, only 2 letters! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eh http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=689_1393758243 That's birch, a fairly hard hardwood. The little guy cuts quickly! I'll bet it takes considerably fewer watts than my HF chainsaw and might work off my solar power system with the inverter. Hmm... Cool! I'll have to take the old bar, chain, and sprocket from the broken Remington 14" electric and make a new saur from them as a backup to my 14" Harbor Fright jobber. Just TIG the sprocket onto a spare nut from the grinder, bend a few pieces of 1/4" plate and Bob's Yer Uncle. I think I'd want to oil the hell out of it frequently, though. It's running faster than normal, methinks. Getting hit with a broken chin would ruin your day, and maybe your life. So would freezing to death. I'll happily admit that I have only several days of chainsaw experience so far in this lifetime. I don't burn wood and stacking that heavy crap is a real pain in the back. Maybe an extra piece of sheetmetal for a hand guard is in order, too? -- Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. -- John Quincy Adams |
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Larry Jaques wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Getting hit with a broken chain would ruin your day, and maybe your life. So would freezing to death. I'll happily admit that I have only several days of chainsaw experience so far in this lifetime. I don't burn wood and stacking that heavy crap is a real pain in the back. Maybe an extra piece of sheetmetal for a hand guard is in order, too? It would be, for me! -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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"Phil Kangas" wrote in message ... You guys have to check this out! What a way to put together a chain saw, eih? ;)} phil http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=689_1393758243 Then you can use your wood lathe.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4qB6n1cm04 |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 21:03:03 -0500, "Phil Kangas" wrote: Where are you guys coming up with this "eih" word, anyway? I've seen several of you use it recently. Here's the old standard spelling, and it's more frugal, only 2 letters! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eh Pardon me but that's the way "I" say it, ay? :)} |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Getting hit with a broken chin would ruin your day, and maybe your life. Yeah, my saw throws the chain every once in a while when it binds up a bit. That rig would just throw the chain in the air like a frisbee or something, NOT too cool! Also, it is running the chain WAY too fast, you could tell he was levering the bar back and forth so as not to take too wide a bite. It will BADLY overheat the chain and then cook the motor. Now, the guys who rigged a big logging chain & bar to a small V8 engine, THAT was a chainsaw!!!! But, it took two guys who could wrestle a Kodiak bear and win to pick that saw up. Jon |
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 17:09:24 -0600, Jon Elson
wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Getting hit with a broken chin would ruin your day, and maybe your life. Yeah, my saw throws the chain every once in a while when it binds up a bit. That rig would just throw the chain in the air like a frisbee or something, NOT too cool! Also, it is running the chain WAY too fast, you could tell he was levering the bar back and forth so as not to take too wide a bite. It will BADLY overheat the chain and then cook the motor. Now, the guys who rigged a big logging chain & bar to a small V8 engine, THAT was a chainsaw!!!! But, it took two guys who could wrestle a Kodiak bear and win to pick that saw up. Jon A 7 or 9 inch angle grinder, which is pretty clearly what he's using, runs around 6000 RPM. Gasoline chainsaws run at 8000-12000 RPM, so the chain speed is probably a bit lower than optimum. Here's my hold-my-beer-and-watch-this grinder mod: http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw00.JPG http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw01.JPG -- Ned Simmons |
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 17:09:24 -0600, Jon Elson
wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Getting hit with a broken chin would ruin your day, and maybe your life. Yeah, my saw throws the chain every once in a while when it binds up a bit. That rig would just throw the chain in the air like a frisbee or something, NOT too cool! Wuss! bseg Also, it is running the chain WAY too fast, you could tell he was levering the bar back and forth so as not to take too wide a bite. It will BADLY overheat the chain and then cook the motor. I think he might have been trying to slow it down by hooking the lower tooth into the log. It does make it cut faster, but it's not the way to saw wood. As you say, it's hell on the motor. Now, the guys who rigged a big logging chain & bar to a small V8 engine, THAT was a chainsaw!!!! But, it took two guys who could wrestle a Kodiak bear and win to pick that saw up. Yeah, those things are real ballbustin' CUTTIN' rigs, fer sher. g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5WO9nulOXc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9x8rBKC4BE -- Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. -- John Quincy Adams |
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:30:09 -0500, Ned Simmons
wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 17:09:24 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Getting hit with a broken chin would ruin your day, and maybe your life. Yeah, my saw throws the chain every once in a while when it binds up a bit. That rig would just throw the chain in the air like a frisbee or something, NOT too cool! Also, it is running the chain WAY too fast, you could tell he was levering the bar back and forth so as not to take too wide a bite. It will BADLY overheat the chain and then cook the motor. Now, the guys who rigged a big logging chain & bar to a small V8 engine, THAT was a chainsaw!!!! But, it took two guys who could wrestle a Kodiak bear and win to pick that saw up. Jon A 7 or 9 inch angle grinder, which is pretty clearly what he's using, runs around 6000 RPM. Gasoline chainsaws run at 8000-12000 RPM, so the chain speed is probably a bit lower than optimum. What part runs 8-12krpm? The sprocket? Certainly not the chain! Here's my hold-my-beer-and-watch-this grinder mod: http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw00.JPG http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw01.JPG WTF? 'Splain, please. Is it one of these on steroids? http://tinyurl.com/kf3fhg6 Blade seems a bit coarse. -- Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. -- John Quincy Adams |
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 11:56:06 -0500, "Phil Kangas"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 21:03:03 -0500, "Phil Kangas" wrote: Where are you guys coming up with this "eih" word, anyway? I've seen several of you use it recently. Here's the old standard spelling, and it's more frugal, only 2 letters! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eh Pardon me but that's the way "I" say it, ay? :)} Eye si! -- Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. -- John Quincy Adams |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 11:56:06 -0500, "Phil Kangas" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 21:03:03 -0500, "Phil Kangas" wrote: Where are you guys coming up with this "eih" word, anyway? I've seen several of you use it recently. Here's the old standard spelling, and it's more frugal, only 2 letters! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eh Pardon me but that's the way "I" say it, ay? :)} Eye si! :)} |
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On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 09:10:24 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:30:09 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 17:09:24 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Getting hit with a broken chin would ruin your day, and maybe your life. Yeah, my saw throws the chain every once in a while when it binds up a bit. That rig would just throw the chain in the air like a frisbee or something, NOT too cool! Also, it is running the chain WAY too fast, you could tell he was levering the bar back and forth so as not to take too wide a bite. It will BADLY overheat the chain and then cook the motor. Now, the guys who rigged a big logging chain & bar to a small V8 engine, THAT was a chainsaw!!!! But, it took two guys who could wrestle a Kodiak bear and win to pick that saw up. Jon A 7 or 9 inch angle grinder, which is pretty clearly what he's using, runs around 6000 RPM. Gasoline chainsaws run at 8000-12000 RPM, so the chain speed is probably a bit lower than optimum. What part runs 8-12krpm? The sprocket? Certainly not the chain! The engine and drive sprocket. Here's my hold-my-beer-and-watch-this grinder mod: http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw00.JPG http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw01.JPG WTF? 'Splain, please. Is it one of these on steroids? http://tinyurl.com/kf3fhg6 Blade seems a bit coarse. Exactly. I made it to trim the bottom of the barn doors on my shop without removing them. The doors were dragging on the outside pad when the frost heaved it up a bit in winter. -- Ned Simmons |
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Phil Kangas wrote:
You guys have to check this out! What a way to put together a chain saw, eih? ;)} phil http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=689_1393758243 it cuts pretty good. there's no chain guard but he's also not behind it or standing over it. |
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:30:09 -0500, Ned Simmons
wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 17:09:24 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Getting hit with a broken chin would ruin your day, and maybe your life. Yeah, my saw throws the chain every once in a while when it binds up a bit. That rig would just throw the chain in the air like a frisbee or something, NOT too cool! Also, it is running the chain WAY too fast, you could tell he was levering the bar back and forth so as not to take too wide a bite. It will BADLY overheat the chain and then cook the motor. Now, the guys who rigged a big logging chain & bar to a small V8 engine, THAT was a chainsaw!!!! But, it took two guys who could wrestle a Kodiak bear and win to pick that saw up. Jon A 7 or 9 inch angle grinder, which is pretty clearly what he's using, runs around 6000 RPM. Gasoline chainsaws run at 8000-12000 RPM, so the chain speed is probably a bit lower than optimum. Here's my hold-my-beer-and-watch-this grinder mod: http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw00.JPG http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw01.JPG Here on South Whidbey Island we have a boat builder, Nichols Brothers Boat Builders, that build a lot of aluminum boats. They modify angle grinders for gouging out aluminum. These modded grinders are equipped a carbide toothed blade. They call it the "Meat Axe". The blade isn't the only mod. They also have a different handle for the hand that isn't holding the main handle. They had to have the tool get the OK from WISHA, which is a state agency similar to OSHA. In order for an employee to use the tool thay have to go through safety training with it.. Eric --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:31:52 -0500, Ned Simmons
wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 09:10:24 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:30:09 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 17:09:24 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Getting hit with a broken chin would ruin your day, and maybe your life. Yeah, my saw throws the chain every once in a while when it binds up a bit. That rig would just throw the chain in the air like a frisbee or something, NOT too cool! Also, it is running the chain WAY too fast, you could tell he was levering the bar back and forth so as not to take too wide a bite. It will BADLY overheat the chain and then cook the motor. Now, the guys who rigged a big logging chain & bar to a small V8 engine, THAT was a chainsaw!!!! But, it took two guys who could wrestle a Kodiak bear and win to pick that saw up. Jon A 7 or 9 inch angle grinder, which is pretty clearly what he's using, runs around 6000 RPM. Gasoline chainsaws run at 8000-12000 RPM, so the chain speed is probably a bit lower than optimum. What part runs 8-12krpm? The sprocket? Certainly not the chain! The engine and drive sprocket. Ack. Here's my hold-my-beer-and-watch-this grinder mod: http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw00.JPG http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw01.JPG WTF? 'Splain, please. Is it one of these on steroids? http://tinyurl.com/kf3fhg6 Blade seems a bit coarse. Exactly. I made it to trim the bottom of the barn doors on my shop without removing them. The doors were dragging on the outside pad when the frost heaved it up a bit in winter. I guess that blade worked fine for barn doors. Dunno 'bout mahogany. I used to want one of those saws but instantly forgot it after finding the HF Multifunction Tool. Crom, I love that little noisemaker! It made notching for deck railings incredibly easy, and it helps with the end cuts on holes in plywood, and 100 other things. I'm getting one for my sister next week, and a spare for myself. I found that concrete board dulls any blade you try to put through it, so the extra blades alone are worth the price: They're on sale for $14.97 with coupon. The snobs can have their $400 Feins and $150 Makitas. I'm perfectly happy with a single-speed HF monster, thankyouverymuch. -- Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. -- John Quincy Adams |
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On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 15:43:58 -0800, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:30:09 -0500, Ned Simmons wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 17:09:24 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Getting hit with a broken chin would ruin your day, and maybe your life. Yeah, my saw throws the chain every once in a while when it binds up a bit. That rig would just throw the chain in the air like a frisbee or something, NOT too cool! Also, it is running the chain WAY too fast, you could tell he was levering the bar back and forth so as not to take too wide a bite. It will BADLY overheat the chain and then cook the motor. Now, the guys who rigged a big logging chain & bar to a small V8 engine, THAT was a chainsaw!!!! But, it took two guys who could wrestle a Kodiak bear and win to pick that saw up. Jon A 7 or 9 inch angle grinder, which is pretty clearly what he's using, runs around 6000 RPM. Gasoline chainsaws run at 8000-12000 RPM, so the chain speed is probably a bit lower than optimum. Here's my hold-my-beer-and-watch-this grinder mod: http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw00.JPG http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmon.../DoorSaw01.JPG Here on South Whidbey Island we have a boat builder, Nichols Brothers Boat Builders, that build a lot of aluminum boats. They modify angle grinders for gouging out aluminum. These modded grinders are equipped a carbide toothed blade. They call it the "Meat Axe". The blade isn't the only mod. They also have a different handle for the hand that isn't holding the main handle. They had to have the tool get the OK from WISHA, which is a state agency similar to OSHA. In order for an employee to use the tool thay have to go through safety training with it.. Eric --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com When I lived on Mount Desert Island one of the local machine shops made angle grinder attachments that the Hinckley yacht builders used for shaping lead keels. It looked a lot like a tenon cutter, but about 4" diameter. This was in the late 1970s, I'm sure OSHA was not involved. The business end was similar to this. https://www.fine-tools.com/v307810.jpg -- Ned Simmons |
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Larry Jaques wrote: I guess that blade worked fine for barn doors. Dunno 'bout mahogany. I used to want one of those saws but instantly forgot it after finding the HF Multifunction Tool. Crom, I love that little noisemaker! It made notching for deck railings incredibly easy, and it helps with the end cuts on holes in plywood, and 100 other things. I'm getting one for my sister next week I don't know your sister, but you should be able to get a better deal than that! ;-) -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 15:21:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I guess that blade worked fine for barn doors. Dunno 'bout mahogany. I used to want one of those saws but instantly forgot it after finding the HF Multifunction Tool. Crom, I love that little noisemaker! It made notching for deck railings incredibly easy, and it helps with the end cuts on holes in plywood, and 100 other things. I'm getting one for my sister next week I don't know your sister, but you should be able to get a better deal than that! ;-) Silly Suthunah. I didn't say I traded my sister for one, I said I was purchasing one for her to use. I'd have asked for their best lathe, welder, milling machine, English Wheel (complete), stretchers, shrinkers, rolling mill, shear, brake, and a whole bunch of supplies had I traded Ol' Sis in. She'da beed proud of that transaction. -- Creativity can solve almost any problem. The creative act, the defeat of habit by originality, overcomes everything. -- George Lois |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 15:21:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I guess that blade worked fine for barn doors. Dunno 'bout mahogany. I used to want one of those saws but instantly forgot it after finding the HF Multifunction Tool. Crom, I love that little noisemaker! It made notching for deck railings incredibly easy, and it helps with the end cuts on holes in plywood, and 100 other things. I'm getting one for my sister next week I don't know your sister, but you should be able to get a better deal than that! ;-) Silly Suthunah. I didn't say I traded my sister for one, I said I was purchasing one for her to use. I'd have asked for their best lathe, welder, milling machine, English Wheel (complete), stretchers, shrinkers, rolling mill, shear, brake, and a whole bunch of supplies had I traded Ol' Sis in. She'da beed proud of that transaction. I may live in the south, but I wasn't born and raised there. Some would take any offer to get shed of a sister. I only see mine about once a year, and only for a few days at a time, so she doesn't bother me. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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