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B&D toaster oven thermostat
A friend asked me to look at her broken toaster oven. I found a
burned-through connection on the thermostat. I can silver "solder" a fix, but the nature of the element is confusing & I'm afraid that my "fix" will subvert its function. The element is a sorta-corrugated strip of steel(?) that is current carrying. It is not needed to carry current, as a connection could more easily be made without it. I'm thinking that is a heater. http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/BDToaster.jpg Anybody know? Thanks, Bob |
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B&D toaster oven thermostat
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Bob Engelhardt wrote: A friend asked me to look at her broken toaster oven. I found a burned-through connection on the thermostat. I can silver "solder" a fix, but the nature of the element is confusing & I'm afraid that my "fix" will subvert its function. The element is a sorta-corrugated strip of steel(?) that is current carrying. It is not needed to carry current, as a connection could more easily be made without it. I'm thinking that is a heater. http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/BDToaster.jpg Anybody know? Thanks, Bob Have a friend who is a heavy toaster oven user. She was telling me that she went through 5 or 6 B&D ovens, all replaced under warranty before giving up on them. Just called and asked after reading the original post... she said she spent a few extra bucks and bought a Kitchen Aid replacement which has lasted years now, and works better to boot. Anyway, check the warranty status on the B&D... apparently they are good (or were good?) about warranty replacements. Erik |
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B&D toaster oven thermostat
"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message ... A friend asked me to look at her broken toaster oven. I found a burned-through connection on the thermostat. I can silver "solder" a fix, but the nature of the element is confusing & I'm afraid that my "fix" will subvert its function. The element is a sorta-corrugated strip of steel(?) that is current carrying. It is not needed to carry current, as a connection could more easily be made without it. I'm thinking that is a heater. http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/BDToaster.jpg Anybody know? Thanks, Bob Is there anything nearby that a heater would effect? My guess is that it is a low value high power resistor intended to reduce the power of the heating elements in certain modes of operation. Art |
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B&D toaster oven thermostat
Bob Engelhardt wrote: A friend asked me to look at her broken toaster oven. I found a burned-through connection on the thermostat. I can silver "solder" a fix, but the nature of the element is confusing & I'm afraid that my "fix" will subvert its function. The element is a sorta-corrugated strip of steel(?) that is current carrying. It is not needed to carry current, as a connection could more easily be made without it. I'm thinking that is a heater. http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/BDToaster.jpg Anybody know? Thanks, Bob Perhaps it's intended as a fusible link and the crinkle is intended to make it spring back when it blows? |
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B&D toaster oven thermostat
Erik wrote:
.... Anyway, check the warranty status on the B&D... apparently they are good (or were good?) about warranty replacements. I think that it's really old - the B&D web site doesn't even have parts for the model. Bob |
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B&D toaster oven thermostat
Artemus wrote:
Is there anything nearby that a heater would effect? My guess is that it is a low value high power resistor intended to reduce the power of the heating elements in certain modes of operation. Ah ... maybe. I went down to check the idea by measuring voltage across the element. Unfortunately I connected a jumper to the wrong buss and blew out the element! Which is probably for the best since I don't like cobbled together fixes, for others. Me, I can live with them. Thanks, Bob |
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B&D toaster oven thermostat
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Perhaps it's intended as a fusible link and the crinkle is intended to make it spring back when it blows? Good guess, but is is blown & hasn't pulled back. Bob |
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B&D toaster oven thermostat
On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:27:38 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
wrote: A friend asked me to look at her broken toaster oven. I found a burned-through connection on the thermostat. I can silver "solder" a fix, but the nature of the element is confusing & I'm afraid that my "fix" will subvert its function. The element is a sorta-corrugated strip of steel(?) that is current carrying. It is not needed to carry current, as a connection could more easily be made without it. I'm thinking that is a heater. http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/BDToaster.jpg Anybody know? I'm going to guess it's an anticipator, like in a HVAC thermostat. http://www.inspectapedia.com/heat/Thermostats6.htm -- Ned Simmons |
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B&D toaster oven thermostat
Bob Engelhardt wrote: Pete C. wrote: Perhaps it's intended as a fusible link and the crinkle is intended to make it spring back when it blows? Good guess, but is is blown & hasn't pulled back. Bob Just because it didn't function properly doesn't mean it wasn't the design intent for the part that was subsequently cost-reduced by the offshore contract manufacturer... |
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B&D toaster oven thermostat
Ned Simmons wrote:
I'm going to guess it's an anticipator, like in a HVAC thermostat. .... That's very likely, now that you mention it. The thermostat is L-shaped, with the bottom leg on the oven wall. The upright leg has the bi-metal sensor, so there is some distance for the heat to travel. A heat anticipator would be logical. And this broken element is on the other side of the leg from the sensor. Bob |
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B&D toaster oven thermostat
On 2011-12-07, Artemus wrote:
"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message ... A friend asked me to look at her broken toaster oven. I found a burned-through connection on the thermostat. I can silver "solder" a [ ... ] http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/BDToaster.jpg Anybody know? Thanks, Bob Is there anything nearby that a heater would effect? My guess is that it is a low value high power resistor intended to reduce the power of the heating elements in certain modes of operation. Or -- it might be heating the thermostat, forcing it to cycle, and how often depending on how much air cooling it sees. It heats up only when the toaster oven's element heats. Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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