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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
I'm looking for a DC motor, 5+ HP, 3000 RPM or greater, 56C, 140C or 180C
face. Any such animal exist? My search at Leeson and some other suppliers only gives me 1700ish RPM units. Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 x113 01.908.542.0244 Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://www.Drill-HQ.com/?page_id=226 VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill V8013-R |
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"Joe AutoDrill" fired this volley in
: I'm looking for a DC motor, 5+ HP, 3000 RPM or greater, 56C, 140C or 180C face. Din't say what preferred voltage. LLoyd |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com fired this volley in
. 3.70: "Joe AutoDrill" fired this volley in : I'm looking for a DC motor, 5+ HP, 3000 RPM or greater, 56C, 140C or 180C face. Din't say what preferred voltage. LLoyd BTW... Reliance made a dual-speed DC motor with that spec -- 220VDC Lloyd |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com fired this volley in
. 3.70: BTW... Reliance made a dual-speed DC motor with that spec -- 220VDC sorry... 240V. You might have to make an adaptor. I didn't see any in those frame styles. Lloyd |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
I'm looking for a DC motor, 5+ HP, 3000 RPM or greater, 56C, 140C or
180C face. Din't say what preferred voltage. 180/240V -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 x113 01.908.542.0244 Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://www.Drill-HQ.com/?page_id=226 VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill V8013-R |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
Joe AutoDrill wrote: I'm looking for a DC motor, 5+ HP, 3000 RPM or greater, 56C, 140C or 180C face. Any such animal exist? My search at Leeson and some other suppliers only gives me 1700ish RPM units. Baldor lists some 5hp 1750/2300 RPM units. I don't see anything 3000 RPM over 2hp. |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
Joe AutoDrill wrote: I'm looking for a DC motor, 5+ HP, 3000 RPM or greater, 56C, 140C or 180C face. Any such animal exist? My search at Leeson and some other suppliers only gives me 1700ish RPM units. Is there anyone in the Dayton, Ohio area on the group? Mendelson's Surplus used to have hundreds of large DC motors on the third floor, along with all kinds of tooling & parts from car factories in the area that were updated form DC motors to VFD & AC motors, along with stuff from the old NCR factories. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
Is there anyone in the Dayton, Ohio area on the group? Mendelson's
Surplus used to have hundreds of large DC motors on the third floor, along with all kinds of tooling & parts from car factories in the area that were updated form DC motors to VFD & AC motors, along with stuff from the old NCR factories. Michael - My next challenge after (if) finding a model is finding 12 in stock somewhere. -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 x113 01.908.542.0244 Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://www.Drill-HQ.com/?page_id=226 VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill V8013-R |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
Joe AutoDrill wrote: Is there anyone in the Dayton, Ohio area on the group? Mendelson's Surplus used to have hundreds of large DC motors on the third floor, along with all kinds of tooling & parts from car factories in the area that were updated form DC motors to VFD & AC motors, along with stuff from the old NCR factories. Michael - My next challenge after (if) finding a model is finding 12 in stock somewhere. Knowing Mendelson's, they could have that many in one of their warehouses. The problem i always had with them was that they didn't know what they had, just how much they wanted for what was available and someone needs to actually look at what they have. Their main building is a full. city block in downtown Dayton and worth a visit for anyone with a reasonable distance. Years ago, a big two way radio business in Canada would come down twice a year and buy three tractor trailer loads of cables & spare parts. They were selling hardware, drill bits & taps by the pound when I was there the last time. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
On 12/07/2011 06:06 AM, Joe AutoDrill wrote:
Is there anyone in the Dayton, Ohio area on the group? Mendelson's Surplus used to have hundreds of large DC motors on the third floor, along with all kinds of tooling& parts from car factories in the area that were updated form DC motors to VFD& AC motors, along with stuff from the old NCR factories. Michael - My next challenge after (if) finding a model is finding 12 in stock somewhere. OK, you might look at Fanuc black cap spindle motors. Anybody who knows what they are will want serious money for them, however. Jon |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:23:54 -0500, "Joe AutoDrill"
wrote: I'm looking for a DC motor, 5+ HP, 3000 RPM or greater, 56C, 140C or 180C face. Any such animal exist? My search at Leeson and some other suppliers only gives me 1700ish RPM units. Need more Input before Idea Output can commence. Is there a particular reason why the motors have to be 240V DC? And not 240/480V 3Ph on a VFD? 5 HP 3450 RPM (3600 if you stop figuring for the synchronous slip) 2-pole motors in 240/480 3Ph should be fairly common. Single phase that's getting a little big, but still doable. And what is it driving - a fan is easy, a compressor head or something with high start torque required is not. Duty cycle, operating temperatures, space, ventilation, Explosion Proof or Drip Proof... Could it be done with Hydraulics...? You can get a C-face hydraulic motor head on the machine, and drive it remotely with darned near anything. The hydraulic motor can be spinning 3000 RPM and the pump (or pumps plural and parallel) driving it off your 240V DC power source can be running at 1725 RPM if it's all sized right. -- Bruce -- |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
"Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable)"
wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:23:54 -0500, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote: I'm looking for a DC motor, 5+ HP, 3000 RPM or greater, 56C, 140C or 180C face. Any such animal exist? My search at Leeson and some other suppliers only gives me 1700ish RPM units. Need more Input before Idea Output can commence. Is there a particular reason why the motors have to be 240V DC? And not 240/480V 3Ph on a VFD? 5 HP 3450 RPM (3600 if you stop figuring for the synchronous slip) 2-pole motors in 240/480 3Ph should be fairly common. Single phase that's getting a little big, but still doable. And what is it driving - a fan is easy, a compressor head or something with high start torque required is not. Duty cycle, operating temperatures, space, ventilation, Explosion Proof or Drip Proof... Could it be done with Hydraulics...? You can get a C-face hydraulic motor head on the machine, and drive it remotely with darned near anything. The hydraulic motor can be spinning 3000 RPM and the pump (or pumps plural and parallel) driving it off your 240V DC power source can be running at 1725 RPM if it's all sized right. Bruce, Customer specifically requested DC, 240V. However, I've convinced him to accept a 5 HP, inverter rated AC motor, 480V... -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 x113 01.908.542.0244 Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://www.Drill-HQ.com/?page_id=226 VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill V8013-R |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:58:01 -0500, "Joe AutoDrill"
wrote: Customer specifically requested DC, 240V. However, I've convinced him to accept a 5 HP, inverter rated AC motor, 480V... If the customer has a compelling reason they need to do it on 240V DC, like that's all they have and no other options, that's the time you try to deliver exactly that. Like when you're restoring a Trolley or Subway Car, your choice of power is limited to what's on the catenary wire or the Third Rail, usually 600V DC. If you want AC power on board, you need a Motor-Generator or a specially built VFD with a 600V DC input. But if they have 480V 3-ph 60Hz readily available it's stupid (not to mention hugely expensive) to try using an oddball source. -- Bruce -- |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
Customer specifically requested DC, 240V. However, I've convinced him to accept a 5 HP, inverter rated AC motor, 480V... The only reason for this might be if there is need to deliver 5 Hp over a very wide range of speeds without a varispeed belt drive or changeable belts or gears. This can be the case for lathe spindles and things like that. Otherwise, an induction motor will be cheaper, longer-lasting, essentially zero maintenance and so on. Jon |
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Looking for a rare or imposible motor...
"Jon Elson" wrote in message
... Joe AutoDrill wrote: Customer specifically requested DC, 240V. However, I've convinced him to accept a 5 HP, inverter rated AC motor, 480V... The only reason for this might be if there is need to deliver 5 Hp over a very wide range of speeds without a varispeed belt drive or changeable belts or gears. This can be the case for lathe spindles and things like that. Otherwise, an induction motor will be cheaper, longer-lasting, essentially zero maintenance and so on. Jon Jon, That is essentially the case. -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 x113 01.908.542.0244 Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://www.Drill-HQ.com/?page_id=226 VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill V8013-R |
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