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I got this cage for $70.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I talked to the UPS driver who serves the area, I will put a
combination lock on this cage, tell him the combination, and will put
outgoing parcels in it. If he sees packages in there while passing by,
he will open the cage and get the stuff. I will keep propane there
also.

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I talked to the UPS driver who serves the area, I will put a
combination lock on this cage, tell him the combination, and will put
outgoing parcels in it. If he sees packages in there while passing by,
he will open the cage and get the stuff. I will keep propane there
also.


And he will occasionally forget to or fail to properly lock it, and your
propane will be gone.

If you do a lock, make it a 'double closing' affair. The door will be
half-open AND locked when he gets to it. After putting your packages in,
he closes the door, and regardless of whether he locks the padlock again,
the door locks tight with a mortised key lock.

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I talked to the UPS driver who serves the area, I will put a
combination lock on this cage, tell him the combination, and will put
outgoing parcels in it. If he sees packages in there while passing by,
he will open the cage and get the stuff. I will keep propane there
also.


And he will occasionally forget to or fail to properly lock it, and your
propane will be gone.

If you do a lock, make it a 'double closing' affair. The door will be
half-open AND locked when he gets to it. After putting your packages in,
he closes the door, and regardless of whether he locks the padlock again,
the door locks tight with a mortised key lock.


I think that I will simply separate the two halves with a divider
(rebar or some such welded in), and keep one half closed, regardless of
the UPS guy.

This is not a high crime area, I just do not want to invite thieves.

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I think that I will simply separate the two halves with a divider
(rebar or some such welded in), and keep one half closed, regardless of
the UPS guy.


That, too! G

I've just gotten to the point in my business where I'm going to need a
"drop box" for parcels (for deliveries, only). I'm intending on building
it so it is unlocked until a "lock" button or lever is turned. Then it
will require a key to unlock.

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I think that I will simply separate the two halves with a divider
(rebar or some such welded in), and keep one half closed, regardless of
the UPS guy.


That, too! G

I've just gotten to the point in my business where I'm going to need a
"drop box" for parcels (for deliveries, only). I'm intending on building
it so it is unlocked until a "lock" button or lever is turned. Then it
will require a key to unlock.


Let us know if you make something that works.

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I think that I will simply separate the two halves with a divider
(rebar or some such welded in), and keep one half closed, regardless of
the UPS guy.

That, too! G

I've just gotten to the point in my business where I'm going to need a
"drop box" for parcels (for deliveries, only). I'm intending on building
it so it is unlocked until a "lock" button or lever is turned. Then it
will require a key to unlock.


Let us know if you make something that works.

i


How complicated depends on how large the parcels are. For small stuff
you can make something like a postal mail box.
I have a simple weather tight box for most stuff.

I built a neat unit for a local place though. Used an couple air
cylinder actuators and a sliding U shaped tray, Open the door, place
package on tray, Close door, switch on door cycles the actuators timer.
The actuator slides the tray over and hits a stop, that stop triggers a
second actuator that clears the tray onto a large table. (I got the idea
from watching a shotgun cycle a round out of the mag into the chamber.)
When you open the door it looks like a simple hole 24" square.

One actuator slides the tray left-right. The tray rides on heavy duty
drawer guides. The other one mounts over the top and pulls the stuff off
the tray.


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I got this cage for $70.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...byGc9xO3bjAhN7...

I talked to the UPS driver who serves the area, I will put a
combination lock on this cage, tell him the combination, and will put
outgoing parcels in it. If he sees packages in there while passing by,
he will open the cage and get the stuff. I will keep propane there
also.

i


Or you could make it similar to a mail box where packages can be put
in without a key, but a key is needed to get packages out.

Dan
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Ignoramus10092 wrote:
On 2011-10-26, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
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I think that I will simply separate the two halves with a divider
(rebar or some such welded in), and keep one half closed, regardless of
the UPS guy.
That, too! G

I've just gotten to the point in my business where I'm going to need a
"drop box" for parcels (for deliveries, only). I'm intending on building
it so it is unlocked until a "lock" button or lever is turned. Then it
will require a key to unlock.


Let us know if you make something that works.


Here's a service with a safe! (strange) http://www.parcelpal.com/


How complicated depends on how large the parcels are. For small stuff
you can make something like a postal mail box.
I have a simple weather tight box for most stuff.

I built a neat unit for a local place though. Used an couple air
cylinder actuators and a sliding U shaped tray, Open the door, place
package on tray, Close door, switch on door cycles the actuators timer.
The actuator slides the tray over and hits a stop, that stop triggers a
second actuator that clears the tray onto a large table. (I got the idea
from watching a shotgun cycle a round out of the mag into the chamber.)
When you open the door it looks like a simple hole 24" square.

One actuator slides the tray left-right. The tray rides on heavy duty
drawer guides. The other one mounts over the top and pulls the stuff off
the tray.


Cool. Who has ridden on it so far?

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I've just gotten to the point in my business where I'm going
to need a
"drop box" for parcels (for deliveries, only). I'm
intending on building
it so it is unlocked until a "lock" button or lever is
turned. Then it
will require a key to unlock.

LLoyd


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If you make anything with an "auto-lock", make sure that it's too
small for someone to get into, or has an internal release.

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On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:19:17 -0500, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus10092 fired this volley in
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I talked to the UPS driver who serves the area, I will put a
combination lock on this cage, tell him the combination, and will put
outgoing parcels in it. If he sees packages in there while passing by,
he will open the cage and get the stuff. I will keep propane there
also.


And he will occasionally forget to or fail to properly lock it, and your
propane will be gone.

If you do a lock, make it a 'double closing' affair. The door will be
half-open AND locked when he gets to it. After putting your packages in,
he closes the door, and regardless of whether he locks the padlock again,
the door locks tight with a mortised key lock.


I've never worked with propane cylinders, so there may be safety
concerns that escape me. Still, couldn't you just use a bicycle
chain and padlock to secure the propane tank(s) to the cage?

Jes' a thought...


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