Wuzzup in Las Vegas at Christmas? We're flying in on the 23rd for a
week. Son and daughter-in-law are driving over from Burbank too, and
we'll just be there for 5 days. She's a great singer, so we're going
to be looking for karaoke places, so any ones you know about??
Anything we need to know or do? Any good shows on?

What's the weather norms?

All clues welcome!!

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

Brian Lawson wrote:



Wuzzup in Las Vegas at Christmas? We're flying in on the 23rd for a
week. Son and daughter-in-law are driving over from Burbank too, and
we'll just be there for 5 days. She's a great singer, so we're going
to be looking for karaoke places, so any ones you know about??
Anything we need to know or do? Any good shows on?


Can't help you other than recommend you visit Hoover Dam. It was the best part of my once
and only visit to Lost Wages. I did the short tour. I wish I had done the long tour.

Wes

"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
...


Wuzzup in Las Vegas at Christmas? We're flying in on the 23rd for a
week. Son and daughter-in-law are driving over from Burbank too, and
we'll just be there for 5 days. She's a great singer, so we're going
to be looking for karaoke places, so any ones you know about??
Anything we need to know or do? Any good shows on?

What's the weather norms?

All clues welcome!!

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

My wife and I lived in Las Vegas for over 100 years. Still, we couldn't
tell you what shows or restaurants to go to. I'm not going to pay $150 to
see ANYONE for an hour, and I'm not going to pay $100 for a meal even if I
won a bundle. We were there during the "old days" when "the boys" ran
things.

We go there now, do our work, and get the hell out as quickly as we can.

So, some positives:

Go to Review-Journal's Best of Review that gives the best places for
everything from pizza to paintball AS RATED BY THE LOCALS. This may take
you to some out of the way places that will be far better and far cheaper
than the Strip corridor.

If you go Downtown, park in the Horseshoe parking garage, and use the
elevators to take you to the casino. Get your ticket validated at the cage,
and you have free parking. DO NOT walk around anywhere outside of the
FREMONT STREET EXPERIENCE on the side streets unless you're looking for a
girl, some dope, or some trouble. You can easily find all three. Within
The Experience, there are quite a few Metro officers, plus security guards
from each hotel. A little gritty, but safe. Kinda like going to Bourbon
Street.

Shows are up to you. Don't know who's showing right now. Some of the
nondescript shows at the hotels are entertaining, and not near as expensive
as the name entertainer shows. There are a couple of those big screen
experiences, IIRC. There is a climbing wall at Game Zone, or something like
that close to the Coca Cola museum, IIRC. Fun if you like arcades. Noisy
if you don't.

Lots of good food, and at good prices. Use that RJ Best Of Las Vegas guide
to find some very good deals. Don't dis the coupon packages they will be
pushing in your face except for the outcall girl services. Some of them
have free rolls of nickels, free drinks, money off buffets, things that for
a group can add up to money real quick. For the money you save by going to
places other than the top of the line, it can make a big difference. You
can see a few more things, or have a little gambling money.

Don't miss the Bellagio fountains. Free. The Eiffel tower is okay, but
costs. Same for Stratosphere, and sometimes the line is a mile long just to
get up to the arcade level. Some decent rollercoasters, NY NY, and Sahara.
Circus Circus has Adventuredome, but it's schmaltzy, smells like chlorine,
and just a loud carnival. Rollercoaster ride is short.

HTH

Have fun.

Steve

"Wes" wrote in message
...
Brian Lawson wrote:



Wuzzup in Las Vegas at Christmas? We're flying in on the 23rd for a
week. Son and daughter-in-law are driving over from Burbank too, and
we'll just be there for 5 days. She's a great singer, so we're going
to be looking for karaoke places, so any ones you know about??
Anything we need to know or do? Any good shows on?


Can't help you other than recommend you visit Hoover Dam. It was the best
part of my once
and only visit to Lost Wages. I did the short tour. I wish I had done
the long tour.

Wes

We drove over it about six months ago. They were about 20' out from
connecting the two sides of the bridge. Like to go again soon. And yes, if
you're there take the tours.

Steve

"jeff" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:27:03 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:


"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
. ..


Wuzzup in Las Vegas at Christmas? We're flying in on the 23rd for a
week. Son and daughter-in-law are driving over from Burbank too, and
we'll just be there for 5 days. She's a great singer, so we're going
to be looking for karaoke places, so any ones you know about??
Anything we need to know or do? Any good shows on?

What's the weather norms?

All clues welcome!!

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

My wife and I lived in Las Vegas for over 100 years. Still, we couldn't
tell you what shows or restaurants to go to. I'm not going to pay $150 to
see ANYONE for an hour, and I'm not going to pay $100 for a meal even if I
won a bundle. We were there during the "old days" when "the boys" ran
things.

We go there now, do our work, and get the hell out as quickly as we can.

So, some positives:

Go to Review-Journal's Best of Review that gives the best places for
everything from pizza to paintball AS RATED BY THE LOCALS. This may take
you to some out of the way places that will be far better and far cheaper
than the Strip corridor.

If you go Downtown, park in the Horseshoe parking garage, and use the
elevators to take you to the casino. Get your ticket validated at the
cage,
and you have free parking. DO NOT walk around anywhere outside of the
FREMONT STREET EXPERIENCE on the side streets unless you're looking for a
girl, some dope, or some trouble. You can easily find all three. Within
The Experience, there are quite a few Metro officers, plus security guards
from each hotel. A little gritty, but safe. Kinda like going to Bourbon
Street.

Shows are up to you. Don't know who's showing right now. Some of the
nondescript shows at the hotels are entertaining, and not near as
expensive
as the name entertainer shows. There are a couple of those big screen
experiences, IIRC. There is a climbing wall at Game Zone, or something
like
that close to the Coca Cola museum, IIRC. Fun if you like arcades. Noisy
if you don't.

Lots of good food, and at good prices. Use that RJ Best Of Las Vegas
guide
to find some very good deals. Don't dis the coupon packages they will be
pushing in your face except for the outcall girl services. Some of them
have free rolls of nickels, free drinks, money off buffets, things that
for
a group can add up to money real quick. For the money you save by going
to
places other than the top of the line, it can make a big difference. You
can see a few more things, or have a little gambling money.

Don't miss the Bellagio fountains. Free. The Eiffel tower is okay, but
costs. Same for Stratosphere, and sometimes the line is a mile long just
to
get up to the arcade level. Some decent rollercoasters, NY NY, and
Sahara.
Circus Circus has Adventuredome, but it's schmaltzy, smells like chlorine,
and just a loud carnival. Rollercoaster ride is short.

HTH

Have fun.

Steve

Geezzzzzzzzzzzzz Steve you and the wife is really old to have lived
there over a hundred years.... :-) the wife and I were there in
2002. I would really recomend the hover experience. I thought that
the whole Vegas thing wasn't all that it should have been. We spent
two weeks on our trip, all but four days were spent checking out
Arizona. We flew into Vega because of the airline rates and got a SUV
from there. Planning on heading back this February just to spend
some time in the desert.... This winter thing here in Maine really
sucks a big on as I get older.

jeff

What kind of stuff are you interested doing in the desert?

Steve

"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
...


Wuzzup in Las Vegas at Christmas? We're flying in on the 23rd for a
week. Son and daughter-in-law are driving over from Burbank too, and
we'll just be there for 5 days. She's a great singer, so we're going
to be looking for karaoke places, so any ones you know about??
Anything we need to know or do? Any good shows on?

What's the weather norms?

All clues welcome!!


A unique opportunity to fire fully automatic weapons. I hope the shooting
range is still there, I believe north of town. A bit of a drive. They
advertise in the local press, guides and Yellow Pages.

--
Michael Koblic
Campbell River, BC

On Dec 17, 11:07*pm, "Michael Koblic" wrote:
"Brian Lawson" wrote in message

...



Wuzzup in Las Vegas at Christmas? * We're flying in on the 23rd for a
week. *Son and daughter-in-law are driving over from Burbank too, and
we'll just be there for 5 days. *She's a great singer, so we're going
to be looking for karaoke places, so any ones you know about??
Anything we need to know or do? *Any good shows on?

What's the weather norms?

All clues welcome!!

A unique opportunity to fire fully automatic weapons. I hope the shooting
range is still there, I believe north of town. A bit of a drive. They
advertise in the local press, guides and Yellow Pages.

--
Michael Koblic
Campbell River, BC

I believe you are talking about The Gun Store...great toys for big
boys. ;)

TMT

"Michael Koblic" wrote in message
...

"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
...


Wuzzup in Las Vegas at Christmas? We're flying in on the 23rd for a
week. Son and daughter-in-law are driving over from Burbank too, and
we'll just be there for 5 days. She's a great singer, so we're going
to be looking for karaoke places, so any ones you know about??
Anything we need to know or do? Any good shows on?

What's the weather norms?

All clues welcome!!


A unique opportunity to fire fully automatic weapons. I hope the shooting
range is still there, I believe north of town. A bit of a drive. They
advertise in the local press, guides and Yellow Pages.

--
Michael Koblic
Campbell River, BC

The Gun Store on East Tropicana, about the 2800 block. You see them
occasionally on The Pawn Stars going there to document a weapon.

Steve

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:33:33 -0500, the infamous Wes
scrawled the following:

Brian Lawson wrote:



Wuzzup in Las Vegas at Christmas? We're flying in on the 23rd for a
week. Son and daughter-in-law are driving over from Burbank too, and
we'll just be there for 5 days. She's a great singer, so we're going
to be looking for karaoke places, so any ones you know about??
Anything we need to know or do? Any good shows on?


Can't help you other than recommend you visit Hoover Dam. It was the best part of my once
and only visit to Lost Wages. I did the short tour. I wish I had done the long tour.

Is it on again? I heard that Homeland Security had shut it down for
at least a year due to security reasons. (Like you could smuggle a
large bomb into the guts of the dam without some guard noticing...)

--
This episode raises disturbing questions about scientific standards,
at least in highly political areas such as global warming. Still,
it's remarkable to see how quickly corrective information can now
spread. After years of ignored freedom-of-information requests and
stonewalling, all it took was disclosure to change the debate. Even
the most influential scientists must prove their case in the court
of public opinion—a court that, thanks to the Web, is one where
eventually all views get a hearing. --Gordon Crovitz, WSJ 12/9/09

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

"Michael Koblic" wrote in message
...

"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
...


Wuzzup in Las Vegas at Christmas? We're flying in on the 23rd for a
week. Son and daughter-in-law are driving over from Burbank too, and
we'll just be there for 5 days. She's a great singer, so we're going
to be looking for karaoke places, so any ones you know about??
Anything we need to know or do? Any good shows on?

What's the weather norms?

All clues welcome!!


A unique opportunity to fire fully automatic weapons. I hope the shooting
range is still there, I believe north of town. A bit of a drive. They
advertise in the local press, guides and Yellow Pages.

--
Michael Koblic
Campbell River, BC

The Gun Store on East Tropicana, about the 2800 block. You see them
occasionally on The Pawn Stars going there to document a weapon.

Steve

The Atomic testing museum 755 East Flamingo Road.

Best Regards
Tom.

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

"azotic" wrote


The Atomic testing museum 755 East Flamingo Road.

Best Regards
Tom.

Hmmmmm. A new one on me, and close to my houses. I will go there. My
dad used to wake me up early early in the morning, and we'd go see them
detonate them above ground when they did that. At the time, I had no idea
I had a front seat to history.

Steve
If things havent changed they did have actual tours of the test site
itself. You have
to register in advance and pass a backround check. Tours are conducted in
the
spring and fall, no cameras etc. Bus picks you up and brings you back to the
museum.
Its amazing to see the results of the nuclear tests at ground zero. Makes
one hope
there is never any need to use them.

Best Regards
Tom.

"Larry Jaques" wrote

Is it on again? I heard that Homeland Security had shut it down for
at least a year due to security reasons. (Like you could smuggle a
large bomb into the guts of the dam without some guard noticing...)

Well, if you heard it on TV or the Internet, it HAS to be true. Right?

Steve

"azotic" wrote


The Atomic testing museum 755 East Flamingo Road.

Best Regards
Tom.

Hmmmmm. A new one on me, and close to my houses. I will go there. My dad
used to wake me up early early in the morning, and we'd go see them detonate
them above ground when they did that. At the time, I had no idea I had a
front seat to history.

Steve

"jeff" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:32:32 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:



What kind of stuff are you interested doing in the desert?

Steve

I'm gonna reup with the GPAA. Got some nice nuggets the last time out
and the price now makes it really nice to do some prospecting.

You got any places in mind? There's one where we used to go sluicing and
metal detecting near a town called Meadview, in Arizona. It's about 90
miles from Vegas, and you go across Hoover Dam 43 miles into Arizona. Then
north to Meadview on paved road. A couple of nasty curves past the dry
lake. Largest nugget found there that was reported) was 7 oz. Our best
day sluicing was 2.33 oz. Lots of gold in quartz, and quite a bit of
angular placer. GPAA used to have a big dig there, but they shut them down.
Now, with the down economy, I don't think there's anything going on in the
area. Easy to get to. And in February, the Mojave greens won't be out.
It's called King Tut, and it's a huge pyramid of processed dirt right on the
road as you near Meadview. Probably see it on Google Earth. Over the hill
is White Hills where the debris from a Martian meteorite hit, and that stuff
is worth about a million bucks a rock.

Steve

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:50:11 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
scrawled the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote

Is it on again? I heard that Homeland Security had shut it down for
at least a year due to security reasons. (Like you could smuggle a
large bomb into the guts of the dam without some guard noticing...)

Well, if you heard it on TV or the Internet, it HAS to be true. Right?

One of my Usenet friends said they couldn't get in and that was the
reason given to them.

Should I believe you (my Usenet friend) or him?

--
This episode raises disturbing questions about scientific standards,
at least in highly political areas such as global warming. Still,
it's remarkable to see how quickly corrective information can now
spread. After years of ignored freedom-of-information requests and
stonewalling, all it took was disclosure to change the debate. Even
the most influential scientists must prove their case in the court
of public opinion—a court that, thanks to the Web, is one where
eventually all views get a hearing. --Gordon Crovitz, WSJ 12/9/09

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:50:11 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
scrawled the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote

Is it on again? I heard that Homeland Security had shut it down for
at least a year due to security reasons. (Like you could smuggle a
large bomb into the guts of the dam without some guard noticing...)

Well, if you heard it on TV or the Internet, it HAS to be true. Right?

One of my Usenet friends said they couldn't get in and that was the
reason given to them.

Should I believe you (my Usenet friend) or him?

I say neither. Let's ask:

http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/service/

I wuz gunna say let's ask anyone here who'd been there recently, but I went
to the US Gov't site, and it seems as though I can find nothing to say they
are not open.

They say at the site that they have been conducting tours since 1937, but I
do have it on good authority from local residents that tours stopped during
WW2, and in order to cross the dam, you were convoyed over with a jeep every
few cars with Ma Deuce's on them. You can still see pillboxes located on
some of the high points at the Dam, remnants of WW2 where machinegunners
were placed.

I would volunteer to dig a little deeper, and try to contact someone with
the Department of the Interior for a historical time line of closures, but I
am just too busy, and it don't mean that much to me. If anyone wants to do
that, I'm sure it would make good reading. Hell, who knows, maybe I will be
bored and have the time, and do it anyway.

I lived in Las Vegas over fifty years. I have been on the dam tours about a
dozen times. It was a to do thing when relatives came to town. At times,
there were areas that were cordoned off, due to reflooring, or some major
work, but there was never a cessation of tours that I know of.

I don't know what it would take to bring down the dam. It is about as broad
at the base as it is tall. I think a 747 would just slide down the face
even if it could get through all the cables below the dam. Maybe one of
those bunker busters. And even if one was to blow a hole at the top, you'd
have to go down about 150' now to reach the water line. A thermonuclear
device would do it. They have inspection stations on both sides, but those
are jokes, really. I've been waved through after a cursory search, and only
opened a couple out of a dozen bays.

I'll report back if I get any timeline.

Steve

"Larry Jaques" wrote

Should I believe you (my Usenet friend) or him?

I wrote to the Boulder City Museum and Historical Society and requested info
on tour stoppages for reasons other than maintenance and construction. They
handle Hoover Dam museum.

Will advise.

Steve

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:36:02 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
scrawled the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:50:11 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
scrawled the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote

Is it on again? I heard that Homeland Security had shut it down for
at least a year due to security reasons. (Like you could smuggle a
large bomb into the guts of the dam without some guard noticing...)

Well, if you heard it on TV or the Internet, it HAS to be true. Right?

One of my Usenet friends said they couldn't get in and that was the
reason given to them.

Should I believe you (my Usenet friend) or him?

I say neither. Let's ask:

http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/service/

I wuz gunna say let's ask anyone here who'd been there recently, but I went
to the US Gov't site, and it seems as though I can find nothing to say they
are not open.

No, but if they were (rightly) embarrassed about any closure by the
DHS, it wouldn't be listed, would it?


They say at the site that they have been conducting tours since 1937, but I
do have it on good authority from local residents that tours stopped during
WW2, and in order to cross the dam, you were convoyed over with a jeep every
few cars with Ma Deuce's on them. You can still see pillboxes located on
some of the high points at the Dam, remnants of WW2 where machinegunners
were placed.

I would volunteer to dig a little deeper, and try to contact someone with
the Department of the Interior for a historical time line of closures, but I
am just too busy, and it don't mean that much to me. If anyone wants to do
that, I'm sure it would make good reading. Hell, who knows, maybe I will be
bored and have the time, and do it anyway.

I lived in Las Vegas over fifty years. I have been on the dam tours about a
dozen times. It was a to do thing when relatives came to town. At times,
there were areas that were cordoned off, due to reflooring, or some major
work, but there was never a cessation of tours that I know of.

I don't know what it would take to bring down the dam. It is about as broad
at the base as it is tall. I think a 747 would just slide down the face
even if it could get through all the cables below the dam. Maybe one of
those bunker busters. And even if one was to blow a hole at the top, you'd
have to go down about 150' now to reach the water line. A thermonuclear
device would do it. They have inspection stations on both sides, but those
are jokes, really. I've been waved through after a cursory search, and only
opened a couple out of a dozen bays.

I'll report back if I get any timeline.

Maybe I can call next week and find out. I'm still curious, but
family's coming tomorrow, so...

--
This episode raises disturbing questions about scientific standards,
at least in highly political areas such as global warming. Still,
it's remarkable to see how quickly corrective information can now
spread. After years of ignored freedom-of-information requests and
stonewalling, all it took was disclosure to change the debate. Even
the most influential scientists must prove their case in the court
of public opinion—a court that, thanks to the Web, is one where
eventually all views get a hearing. --Gordon Crovitz, WSJ 12/9/09

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:46:29 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
scrawled the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote

Should I believe you (my Usenet friend) or him?

I wrote to the Boulder City Museum and Historical Society and requested info
on tour stoppages for reasons other than maintenance and construction. They
handle Hoover Dam museum.

Will advise.

Great, thanks!

--
This episode raises disturbing questions about scientific standards,
at least in highly political areas such as global warming. Still,
it's remarkable to see how quickly corrective information can now
spread. After years of ignored freedom-of-information requests and
stonewalling, all it took was disclosure to change the debate. Even
the most influential scientists must prove their case in the court
of public opinion—a court that, thanks to the Web, is one where
eventually all views get a hearing. --Gordon Crovitz, WSJ 12/9/09

Hey All, and specially Steve B.,

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions to the posting before it
ran off the rails. I did look up the "Review-Journal's Best of
Review" as Steve suggests, and it had most of what I was interested
in. More than enough actually.

Take care.

We're outa here early Wednesday and gone for a week, so.......

Merry Christmas to All.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
...
Hey All, and specially Steve B.,

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions to the posting before it
ran off the rails. I did look up the "Review-Journal's Best of
Review" as Steve suggests, and it had most of what I was interested
in. More than enough actually.

Take care.

We're outa here early Wednesday and gone for a week, so.......

Merry Christmas to All.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

Enjoy, and hope you hit the big one.

Steve

"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
...
Hey All, and specially Steve B.,

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions to the posting before it
ran off the rails. I did look up the "Review-Journal's Best of
Review" as Steve suggests, and it had most of what I was interested
in. More than enough actually.

Take care.

We're outa here early Wednesday and gone for a week, so.......

Merry Christmas to All.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

If you go next year, check with me. I have three vacation rentals on
vrbo.com, and they are great for groups. You can save a lot over hotels,
cook your own meals, and there's two pools and two spas. SE section close
to airport.

Steve