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Plus the fact that there are not a whole lot of 10 foot lathes around!
Massive indeed!! Is it in fact geared or belt driven? If you don't get answers here, I know a machine dealer out that way in CT who would probably know, and might be able to take it off your hands. But, very few hobbyists would be in the market for a lathe that size, and unless it is in fact a really good manual lathe, not a lot of machine shops will want it, either. Mebbe a cupla specialty shops doing real long shafts or sumpn. Plus factoring in the freight/rigging.... What was yer dad doin w/ such a humongous lathe?? ---------------------------- Mr. P.V.'d formerly Droll Troll "Shawn" shawn_75ATcomcastDOTnet wrote in message ... First let me start by saying, I am not a machinist, but I know a little about the craft. My dad has a relatively large lathe he is wanting to sell. This lathe has very few name or data plates and it is quite old. It is made by New Haven Mfg. in New Haven CT. The bed is approx. 10 feet long and when measuring from the center of the chuck to the ways it comes to approx 18" (I think this is the swing). I've found references to New Haven Mfg. lathes for woodworking but very little about metal lathes which this one is. It has some similarities to this one http://www.americanartifacts.com/smma/advert/ay330a.jpg The gearbox (if you could call it that) it a manual change from my best guess. This machine is downright massive and hasn't been used much in many years. Does anyone have any info on New Haven Mfg? What other info would be helpful in determining the identity of this machine? This lathe is located in Southwest Pennsylvania. Thanks, Shawn |
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Identifying a lathe
First let me start by saying, I am not a machinist, but I know a little
about the craft. My dad has a relatively large lathe he is wanting to sell. This lathe has very few name or data plates and it is quite old. It is made by New Haven Mfg. in New Haven CT. The bed is approx. 10 feet long and when measuring from the center of the chuck to the ways it comes to approx 18" (I think this is the swing). I've found references to New Haven Mfg. lathes for woodworking but very little about metal lathes which this one is. It has some similarities to this one http://www.americanartifacts.com/smma/advert/ay330a.jpg The gearbox (if you could call it that) it a manual change from my best guess. This machine is downright massive and hasn't been used much in many years. Does anyone have any info on New Haven Mfg? What other info would be helpful in determining the identity of this machine? This lathe is located in Southwest Pennsylvania. Thanks, Shawn |
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"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote: Plus the fact that there are not a whole lot of 10 foot lathes around! He said 10 foot bed. I've got a pair of 8 foot beds, which sit under lathes that top out at about 5 feet between centers, both from the late 1800's at best guess, so I imagine his (which sounds similar) is perhaps 6 or 7 feet between centers. The old lathes have head and tailstocks that take up a lot of real estate on the bed. So it's not _very_ long. The swing is pretty good, however - if he's measuring 18" from the center of the chuck to the ways, it's a 36" swing lathe, and that's handy if you need it. But as an old change gear lathe, it's not sexy for a lot of shops - hard to make money with in a production shop. Plus factoring in the freight/rigging.... One always does need to, and the seller must price accordingly if he wants it to move before he dies and his heirs do. There's a size beyond which the price can't simply track the increasing size, due to the difficulty and expense of moving, and this is (IMHO) beyond that "two guys and pickup truck" limit. If I were nearer SW Penn, I might be tempted, but I'm already at my lathe limit until I sell one off, anyway. The old lathe makers often did not really specialize in wood or metal lathes - you could get the same bed, with a metal lathe headstock, cross-slide, etc, or with a simpler setup for woodturning. -- Cats, Coffee, Chocolate...vices to live by |
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"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote in message ... Plus the fact that there are not a whole lot of 10 foot lathes around! Massive indeed!! Is it in fact geared or belt driven? It is belt driven If you don't get answers here, I know a machine dealer out that way in CT who would probably know, and might be able to take it off your hands. But, very few hobbyists would be in the market for a lathe that size, and unless it is in fact a really good manual lathe, not a lot of machine shops will want it, either. Mebbe a cupla specialty shops doing real long shafts or sumpn. Plus factoring in the freight/rigging.... What was yer dad doin w/ such a humongous lathe?? My dad and uncle were partners in a welding shop / excavating business with my dad being the excavating side of the business. The lathe was used almost exclusively for driveshaft work. Shawn |
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"Ecnerwal" wrote in message ... In article , "Proctologically Violated©®" wrote: Plus the fact that there are not a whole lot of 10 foot lathes around! He said 10 foot bed. I've got a pair of 8 foot beds, which sit under lathes that top out at about 5 feet between centers, both from the late 1800's at best guess, so I imagine his (which sounds similar) is perhaps 6 or 7 feet between centers. The old lathes have head and tailstocks that take up a lot of real estate on the bed. So it's not _very_ long. The swing is pretty good, however - if he's measuring 18" from the center of the chuck to the ways, it's a 36" swing lathe, and that's handy if you need it. But as an old change gear lathe, it's not sexy for a lot of shops - hard to make money with in a production shop. This lathe would probably fit 7' between centers. Plus factoring in the freight/rigging.... One always does need to, and the seller must price accordingly if he wants it to move before he dies and his heirs do. There's a size beyond which the price can't simply track the increasing size, due to the difficulty and expense of moving, and this is (IMHO) beyond that "two guys and pickup truck" limit. Well I can say that there is sufficient machinery to load it onto the truck. If I were nearer SW Penn, I might be tempted, but I'm already at my lathe limit until I sell one off, anyway. The old lathe makers often did not really specialize in wood or metal lathes - you could get the same bed, with a metal lathe headstock, cross-slide, etc, or with a simpler setup for woodturning. This one is for sure a metal lathe. -- Cats, Coffee, Chocolate...vices to live by |
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"Shawn" shawn_75ATcomcastDOTnet wrote in
: First let me start by saying, I am not a machinist, but I know a little about the craft. My dad has a relatively large lathe he is wanting to sell. This lathe has very few name or data plates and it is quite old. It is made by New Haven Mfg. in New Haven CT. The bed is approx. 10 feet long and when measuring from the center of the chuck to the ways it comes to approx 18" (I think this is the swing). I've found references to New Haven Mfg. lathes for woodworking but very little about metal lathes which this one is. It has some similarities to this one http://www.americanartifacts.com/smma/advert/ay330a.jpg The gearbox (if you could call it that) it a manual change from my best guess. This machine is downright massive and hasn't been used much in many years. Does anyone have any info on New Haven Mfg? What other info would be helpful in determining the identity of this machine? This lathe is located in Southwest Pennsylvania. The lathe is probably not worth too much. As others have said it would have little appeal to a commercial shop and is on the big side for hobby/home use. Hard to say for sure though. If you want more information on New Haven Manfacturing you might try the American Precision Museum in Vermont. http://www.americanprecision.org/ They have fairly extensive archives, unfortuately their web site is pretty lame compared to what the museum has to offer. Maybe your dad would be interested in donating it? My guess would be that the lathe dates from WWI. New Haven was booming with war time production, building machine tools and producing all sorts of manufactured good for the war effort. After the war there was simply too much capacity and many firms went under. IIRC New Haven has a historical society that may be able to give you a little more history on the company. -- Dan |
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