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"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:57:55 GMT, "R.H." wrote: Several new photos have been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Some have mentioned that it would be interesting to know which group posters to this thread are from, so if you feel the inclination please include this with your reply. I received an email from someone who collects scales and weights, he said that number 244 (the spherical slotted weight that unscrews into two pieces) is an old ice weight. I did a lot of searching on the web and couldn't find anything on ice weights, so I emailed him asking for some more info but haven't heard back yet. So if anyone can shed some light on this, please let us know, or you have any antique books maybe you could take a look to see if they are described therein. Rob from rec.ww #266: this is irritating, I know I've seen that, but can't remember in what context. #267: Nut (fastener) that theoretically isn't supposed to work loose. Usually comes with cheap toys. Yes, it's a nut but it came from the hardware store so I guess that they're used for other things besides toys. #268: Looks like a syringe needle for animal medication, although the offset is a bit odd. Your second answer, in your follow-up post is correct. #271: Looks like some sort of distillation apparatus from a chemistry lab This one isn't part of a distillation apparatus. |
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message ... In article , R.H. wrote: Several new photos have been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Some have mentioned that it would be interesting to know which group posters to this thread are from, so if you feel the inclination please include this with your reply. As I was one who has made this suggestion, I should state that I am reading/responding in rec.crafts.metalworking. 266) Some kind of tool for lifting hot objects. It might engage the slots in old cast-iron wood burning stoves for lifing out the covers for placing individual cooking containers. That's what I was thinking, for something hot in the kitchen. 267) A formed acorn nut -- designed to be used to keep clothing or parts of a person from snagging on the end of the bolt sticking through the nut. High-quality ones are machined from a single piece of metal, polished, and plated with chrome or nickel. This one was formed by folding petals of sheet steel over a standard hex nut. Correct, though there is no nut inside of this one, it's just folded sheet steel. 268) Rifle bayonet. I don't recognize the rifle from the design, but it *might* be a Revolutionary War or Civil War period piece. Yes, but it's from a No. 4 Lee Enfield rifle. 269) Wood model airplane propeller, shot end on. This one is for an engine which turns clockwise as viewed from behind the engine. There are ones made for CCW operation as well. Correct. 270) Hmm ... perhaps an image made by removing the silvering from a mirrored piece of glass, and then backing it with a black background? If so, there is probably a fancy term for the process, which I do not know. 271) Hmm ... it looks as though it screws onto a hose. At a guess, with reasonable water flow, the bent wire pieces spin, spraying water all around the device. Thus it would be for cleaning something fairly large -- perhaps the size of air conditioning ducting or larger, with a serious flow of water beating against the walls. Partially right, it does screw onto a hose and it's used for cleaning. |
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"AL" wrote in message news 261. An "embosser" used to put a raised pattern "seal" on a letter, envelope, or check. My dad has a similar one. This was part of last week's set, but you are correct nonetheless. It's a book embosser, see the answer link at the bottom of that set of photos. |
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"R.H." wrote in message
news Several new photos have been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 270 is a lantern slide. Edward Van Altena was a famous maker of lantern slides. It's just the right size and is quite thin. Try googling his name and you will come across some great websites with images of van Altena slides. We have a few old astronomy lantern slides at our observatory. 266 is a real mystery object. It looks home-made to me. Possibly for dipping eggs for Easter-egg dyeing? The loop looks a bit too big for this. Please test and see if it can pick up an egg out of a pan of water. -- Mike Dworetsky (Remove "pants" spamblock to send e-mail) |
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"Mike Dworetsky" wrote in message ... "R.H." wrote in message news Several new photos have been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 270 is a lantern slide. Edward Van Altena was a famous maker of lantern slides. It's just the right size and is quite thin. Try googling his name and you will come across some great websites with images of van Altena slides. We have a few old astronomy lantern slides at our observatory. Correct, what I like about the magic lanterns is that they used a flame for a light source instead of a light bulb, there are some really cool looking photos of some a the bottom of this page: http://courses.ncssm.edu/gallery/col.../exhibit02.htm 266 is a real mystery object. It looks home-made to me. Possibly for dipping eggs for Easter-egg dyeing? The loop looks a bit too big for this. Please test and see if it can pick up an egg out of a pan of water. I don't have any eggs, but I can tell you that the inside dimension is 1 11/16", probably too large for most eggs. |
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* R. H.
267 - Cheap pressed steel acorn nut All correct Please forgive my ignorance, but what really _is_ a "cheap pressed steel acorn nut"? -- Jon Haugsand Dept. of Informatics, Univ. of Oslo, Norway, http://www.ifi.uio.no/~jonhaug/, Phone: +47 22 85 24 92 |
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On 12 Feb 2005 12:21:03 +0100, Jon Haugsand
wrote: Please forgive my ignorance, but what really _is_ a "cheap pressed steel acorn nut"? An acorn nut is a nut with a blind hole and a rounded end. It stops the threaded rod poking through as a hazard. Nuts are made by an automatic capstan lathe. Acorn nuts (turned from solid) are expensive to make this way, because they need to be held one way round for threading, then rotates to turn the acorn. This makes them cost several times what a plain nut does. This type of cheap acorn nut is pressed from thin sheet. A hole is punched and drawn into a rough funnel, which can be threaded. A "flower" shape is then blanked out and the petals bent together to form the acorn. This type of nut is commonly seen on cheap metal toys, like kid's bicycles. |
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Andy Dingley wrote: On 12 Feb 2005 12:21:03 +0100, Jon Haugsand wrote: Please forgive my ignorance, but what really _is_ a "cheap pressed steel acorn nut"? An acorn nut is a nut with a blind hole and a rounded end. It stops the threaded rod poking through as a hazard. Nuts are made by an automatic capstan lathe. Acorn nuts (turned from solid) are expensive to make this way, because they need to be held one way round for threading, then rotates to turn the acorn. This makes them cost several times what a plain nut does. This type of cheap acorn nut is pressed from thin sheet. A hole is punched and drawn into a rough funnel, which can be threaded. A "flower" shape is then blanked out and the petals bent together to form the acorn. And -- if you want to see what the other type looks like, check out the following URL: http://www2.d-and-d.com/misc/NUTS/acorn-nuts.jpg This particular one has a 1/2-20 thread, so it is significantly larger than the one shown in the puzzle, as well as higher quality. It is a quick-and-dirty setup -- just the one image cropped to reasonable size. No text, no description. FWIW -- this is a pair out of the box which I had to order to obtain one for the handwheel on my Clausing tailstock. It had the thin lock nut, but no acorn nut, which led to it working loose regularly, and to occasionally gouging my wrist. I'll figure out other uses for the rest of the box. :-) Enjoy, DoN. P.S. Out of curiosity -- now that you have images, what is the term for them in Norway? And what newsgroup are you following this in? I'm in rec.crafts.metalworking, which explains why I am familiar with the acorn nuts, and why I happen to have some on hand to photograph. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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260 A Hollow Auger used to make round tenons
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* DoN. Nichols
http://www2.d-and-d.com/misc/NUTS/acorn-nuts.jpg .... P.S. Out of curiosity -- now that you have images, what is the term for them in Norway? And what newsgroup are you following this in? I'm in rec.crafts.metalworking, which explains why I am familiar with the acorn nuts, and why I happen to have some on hand to photograph. Thanks to you and Andy. What they are called in Norway? Frankly, I don't really know, but I'll check it out. (I really was puzzled because my dictionary told me that an "acorn" should be an "oak nut", so what the h... should a "metal oak nut nut of cheap varity" be? :-)) Anyway, the newsgroup I follow is rec.puzzles. -- Jon Haugsand Dept. of Informatics, Univ. of Oslo, Norway, http://www.ifi.uio.no/~jonhaug/, Phone: +47 22 85 24 92 |
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Jon Haugsand wrote: * DoN. Nichols http://www2.d-and-d.com/misc/NUTS/acorn-nuts.jpg ... P.S. Out of curiosity -- now that you have images, what is the term for them in Norway? And what newsgroup are you following this in? I'm in rec.crafts.metalworking, which explains why I am familiar with the acorn nuts, and why I happen to have some on hand to photograph. Thanks to you and Andy. What they are called in Norway? Frankly, I don't really know, but I'll check it out. (I really was puzzled because my dictionary told me that an "acorn" should be an "oak nut", so what the h... should a "metal oak nut nut of cheap varity" be? :-)) I can see how that would be rather puzzling. The name is because the rounded end resembles the actual nut, and the hex part for wrenching it tight (vaguely) resembles the cap which is found on the acorn. Anyway, the newsgroup I follow is rec.puzzles. Thank you. That suggests a background which probably would not offer you experience with acorn nuts. The woodworkers in the cross-posting list might know the acorn nuts. The antiques people might deal with them if they collect old tools and such. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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R.H. wrote: "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:20:28 +0800, Jonathan Wilson wrote: 268 looks like a bayonet Lee Enfield No 4 (British, late WW2) Correct. Even the fact its a late one! The earlier one was cruciform in cross section and much less prone to bending in use.... Niel. |
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* DoN. Nichols
P.S. Out of curiosity -- now that you have images, what is the term for them in Norway? Have now found out. Some call it "kuppelmutter" i.e. "domed nut" and some "hettemutter" or "hooded nut". -- Jon Haugsand Dept. of Informatics, Univ. of Oslo, Norway, http://www.ifi.uio.no/~jonhaug/, Phone: +47 22 85 24 92 |
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Jon Haugsand wrote:
* DoN. Nichols P.S. Out of curiosity -- now that you have images, what is the term for them in Norway? Have now found out. Some call it "kuppelmutter" i.e. "domed nut" and some "hettemutter" or "hooded nut". Ok, I have to ask. Is the same word for nut also slang for testicle? |
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* Jim Stewart
Jon Haugsand wrote: * DoN. Nichols P.S. Out of curiosity -- now that you have images, what is the term for them in Norway? Have now found out. Some call it "kuppelmutter" i.e. "domed nut" and some "hettemutter" or "hooded nut". Ok, I have to ask. Is the same word for nut also slang for testicle? Well, as nut have several meanings in English, and those translate into different words in Norwegian, not all of them are slang for testicle. "Mutter" is the Norwegian word for "nut" as in "nuts and bolts". "Nøtt" (i.e. "Nott" with a slash through the o) is the word for the edible "nut" as in "hazzle nut" or "oak nut". The latter, "nøtt", are sometimes used as slang for testicle, but not very common. (So many others to use, "familiejuveler" (family jewels), "baller" (balls), and so on.) (OT: My first cousing got married in California a few years ago. The wedding menu was Norwegian fish balls, which is shocking by itself as this is the cheapest dinner varity you can get in Norway. As the wedding guests line up a man said "Huh, huh, I didn't know that fish had balls." Lady in front: "It must be large fish though.") -- Jon Haugsand Dept. of Informatics, Univ. of Oslo, Norway, http://www.ifi.uio.no/~jonhaug/, Phone: +47 22 85 24 92 |
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* Jim Stewart
Jon Haugsand wrote: * DoN. Nichols P.S. Out of curiosity -- now that you have images, what is the term for them in Norway? Have now found out. Some call it "kuppelmutter" i.e. "domed nut" and some "hettemutter" or "hooded nut". Ok, I have to ask. Is the same word for nut also slang for testicle? Well, as nut have several meanings in English, and those translate into different words in Norwegian, not all of them are slang for testicle. "Mutter" is the Norwegian word for "nut" as in "nuts and bolts". "Nøtt" (i.e. "Nott" with a slash through the o) is the word for the edible "nut" as in "hazzle nut" or "oak nut". The latter, "nøtt", is sometimes used as slang for testicle, but not very common. (So many others to use, "familiejuveler" (family jewels), "baller" (balls), and so on.) (OT: My first cousing got married in California a few years ago. The wedding menu was Norwegian fish balls, which is shocking by itself as this is the cheapest dinner varity you can get in Norway. When the wedding guests lined up, a man said "Huh, huh, I didn't know that fish had balls." Lady in front: "It must be large fish though.") -- Jon Haugsand Dept. of Informatics, Univ. of Oslo, Norway, http://www.ifi.uio.no/~jonhaug/, Phone: +47 22 85 24 92 |
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Jon Haugsand wrote:
* Jim Stewart Jon Haugsand wrote: * DoN. Nichols P.S. Out of curiosity -- now that you have images, what is the term for them in Norway? Have now found out. Some call it "kuppelmutter" i.e. "domed nut" and some "hettemutter" or "hooded nut". Ok, I have to ask. Is the same word for nut also slang for testicle? Well, as nut have several meanings in English, and those translate into different words in Norwegian, not all of them are slang for testicle. "Mutter" is the Norwegian word for "nut" as in "nuts and bolts". "Nøtt" (i.e. "Nott" with a slash through the o) is the word for the edible "nut" as in "hazzle nut" or "oak nut". The latter, "nøtt", are sometimes used as slang for testicle, but not very common. (So many others to use, "familiejuveler" (family jewels), "baller" (balls), and so on.) (OT: My first cousing got married in California a few years ago. The wedding menu was Norwegian fish balls, which is shocking by itself as this is the cheapest dinner varity you can get in Norway. As the wedding guests line up a man said "Huh, huh, I didn't know that fish had balls." Lady in front: "It must be large fish though.") LOL |
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Jon Haugsand wrote: * DoN. Nichols P.S. Out of curiosity -- now that you have images, what is the term for them in Norway? Have now found out. Some call it "kuppelmutter" i.e. "domed nut" and some "hettemutter" or "hooded nut". Both reasonable terms, and probably easier for someone with just a dictionary for translation to understand. Thanks, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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345. haven't a clue but it's fun to see the pics and try to guess
346. mortiser chisel 347. no clue. looks to me to be a non-functional item, like a neat, fun, sculpture. 348. chuck key 349. LOL. that's neat! never saw that before, didn't know it was possible. :-) electric motor. (those coiled wires on the ends of the battery reminded me of the coil of wire used for the "coin shrinker" process, you've seen that right? i wanted to offer a "joke" response for #349, "a **VERY** low voltage coin shrinker") 350. looks to me to be die cast pot metal or aluminum, i would guess it would be unwise to use as a sling-shot. (a spur? maybe... i think not.) my guess would be some kind of very lightweight "spanner wrench" for some very lightweight application. hey Rob. thanks for putting up these "what is it" things. they're always fun to try to guess. tickles a part of my brain, fun to participate. i thought you really came up with something fun, interesting and unique when you started doing these "what is it" things. b.w. "R.H." wrote in message news Several new photos have been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Some have mentioned that it would be interesting to know which group posters to this thread are from, so if you feel the inclination please include this with your reply. I received an email from someone who collects scales and weights, he said that number 244 (the spherical slotted weight that unscrews into two pieces) is an old ice weight. I did a lot of searching on the web and couldn't find anything on ice weights, so I emailed him asking for some more info but haven't heard back yet. So if anyone can shed some light on this, please let us know, or you have any antique books maybe you could take a look to see if they are described therein. Rob |
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"William Wixon" wrote:
349. LOL. that's neat! never saw that before, didn't know it was possible. :-) electric motor. ( I must admit I'm scratching my head over how that thing works. Assuming the magnets are N pole up, wouldn't the coil of wire just get it's S pole "stuck" facing down at the magnets. IOW, how does the coil turn without having contacts that change the polarity depending upon orientation? Jon |
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Jon Danniken wrote: "William Wixon" wrote: 349. LOL. that's neat! never saw that before, didn't know it was possible. :-) electric motor. ( I must admit I'm scratching my head over how that thing works. Assuming the magnets are N pole up, wouldn't the coil of wire just get it's S pole "stuck" facing down at the magnets. IOW, how does the coil turn without having contacts that change the polarity depending upon orientation? All that is needed is to interrupt the current. I have already posted two ways that I could see it working. (One depends on the wires serving as the axles being just a bit off center.) The other I'll leave you to find my other articles just posted in this thread. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote: "William Wixon" wrote: 349. LOL. that's neat! never saw that before, didn't know it was possible. :-) electric motor. ( I must admit I'm scratching my head over how that thing works. Assuming the magnets are N pole up, wouldn't the coil of wire just get it's S pole "stuck" facing down at the magnets. IOW, how does the coil turn without having contacts that change the polarity depending upon orientation? All that is needed is to interrupt the current. I have already posted two ways that I could see it working. (One depends on the wires serving as the axles being just a bit off center.) The other I'll leave you to find my other articles just posted in this thread. My apologies, Don, the thread split into two sections in my newsreader, and I didn't see the other part with your replies. Makes perfect sense now (I like the one-sided enamel scraping the best); thanks!. Jon |