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powering small power tools in the field .. options?
I've owned a couple of those portabands but got rid of the last one
years ago. I recently was at an estate sale and picked one up so cheap I couldn't pass on it. Coincidentally, yesterday a woman offered me a bunch of angle iron but said it was welded into stuff too unwieldy to move in my vehicle. I got to thinking yet again, surely there must be some way to power this saw from my car. I could get an inverter, but I rather suspect that the motor on this is a universally wound DC motor. Is there a way to directly run it from battery power? GWE |
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Grant Erwin wrote:
I've owned a couple of those portabands but got rid of the last one years ago. I recently was at an estate sale and picked one up so cheap I couldn't pass on it. Coincidentally, yesterday a woman offered me a bunch of angle iron but said it was welded into stuff too unwieldy to move in my vehicle. I got to thinking yet again, surely there must be some way to power this saw from my car. I could get an inverter, but I rather suspect that the motor on this is a universally wound DC motor. Is there a way to directly run it from battery power? GWE You'd still need 120V DC -- to get that from your car you'd need an inverter. The DC inverter would be way more expensive than an AC inverter because nobody makes 120V DC inverters in massive volumes in China. You could also consider a generator -- it may be more practical at the expected current usage of your saw. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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You *can* get 120vdc (or AC at an odd frequency) from a modified car
alternator, but since you'd need to modify it (replace the regulator portion) you would need to add a second alternator. There is/was a company that produced a commercial system similar to this where they used one or two modified alternators to produce something around 120vac at fairly high and variable frequency, rectified it to DC and then an inverter to reform it to stable 60hz power. I seem to recall that their systems were 5kw and 10kw rated with one or two alternators. I saw their stuff at NAB back in '98 or so, but can't seem to find it online now, I think it was called "Road Power". It sounds overly complicated, but you got better efficiencies by producing the power at a higher voltage and avoiding the step up. Pete C. Tim Wescott wrote: Grant Erwin wrote: I've owned a couple of those portabands but got rid of the last one years ago. I recently was at an estate sale and picked one up so cheap I couldn't pass on it. Coincidentally, yesterday a woman offered me a bunch of angle iron but said it was welded into stuff too unwieldy to move in my vehicle. I got to thinking yet again, surely there must be some way to power this saw from my car. I could get an inverter, but I rather suspect that the motor on this is a universally wound DC motor. Is there a way to directly run it from battery power? GWE You'd still need 120V DC -- to get that from your car you'd need an inverter. The DC inverter would be way more expensive than an AC inverter because nobody makes 120V DC inverters in massive volumes in China. You could also consider a generator -- it may be more practical at the expected current usage of your saw. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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Grant Erwin wrote: I've owned a couple of those portabands but got rid of the last one years ago. I recently was at an estate sale and picked one up so cheap I couldn't pass on it. Coincidentally, yesterday a woman offered me a bunch of angle iron but said it was welded into stuff too unwieldy to move in my vehicle. I got to thinking yet again, surely there must be some way to power this saw from my car. I could get an inverter, but I rather suspect that the motor on this is a universally wound DC motor. Is there a way to directly run it from battery power? GWE My current inverter is rated for 800 watts, it's enough to power my mini-lathe, my small drill press or my 4x6 band saw. It's not enough to start my Skil wormdrive or the contractor's table saw, both of which have universal motors. It will run the 1/2" electric drill, not sure how big a hole it would handle, though. Unless you've got a fairly large truck, a lot of heavy copper and a source of nearly free deep-cycle batteries, 120 v. DC isn't really a practical thing. The chain car parts places have inverters on sale all the time here, the problem with the higher-output units is the current draw at 12 v. You have to wire them in directly, you can't just plug the suckers into the cigarette lighter socket. Some of them draw about 100 amps at rated output. Once you start thinking about hooking them up to a deep-cycle battery and the charger for it, you might as well lay out for a light-duty-cycle gas-fired generator. The cost will be about the same and the convenience factor will be a lot higher. Stan |
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In article , Grant Erwin
wrote: I've owned a couple of those portabands but got rid of the last one years ago. I recently was at an estate sale and picked one up so cheap I couldn't pass on it. Coincidentally, yesterday a woman offered me a bunch of angle iron but said it was welded into stuff too unwieldy to move in my vehicle. I got to thinking yet again, surely there must be some way to power this saw from my car. I could get an inverter, but I rather suspect that the motor on this is a universally wound DC motor. Is there a way to directly run it from battery power? GWE Small 1Kwatt generators show up at pawnshops all the time for maybe $200. That is easily big enough to power your saw. Why not just use a cutting torch? |
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Go for the inverter. I have one and it runs almost anything I ever need to
plug into it. Just make sure the cables driving the inverter are big enough. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... I've owned a couple of those portabands but got rid of the last one years ago. I recently was at an estate sale and picked one up so cheap I couldn't pass on it. Coincidentally, yesterday a woman offered me a bunch of angle iron but said it was welded into stuff too unwieldy to move in my vehicle. I got to thinking yet again, surely there must be some way to power this saw from my car. I could get an inverter, but I rather suspect that the motor on this is a universally wound DC motor. Is there a way to directly run it from battery power? GWE |
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