Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe" elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe. Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:41:52 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe" elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe. Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan

I don't think it's a lathe of any kind. It looks like a
special-purpose bed-type milling machine, built to handle that big
rotary table. The drive shaft suggests that it's a production machine,
but it looks like she's locating the setup with the handwheels -- for
an operation that could have no possible relation to the powered
shaft. Here's a sharper version of that photo:

https://tinyurl.com/y9wycx3u

I question whether the photo is of a real operation, or whether it was
cooked up for the photo. The reason I say that is that there's a gear
fixtured on top, and a toolholder that looks like it could be for a
shaping operation. But the toolholder doesn't look like it's holding a
shaping tool. And there's no way, in wartime production or any kind of
production, that you would cut a gear like that with a single-point
cutting tool making straight cuts. Even if you did, one of the
handwheels would have a big and obvious index-pin dial on it.

The whole setup is screwy. The lathe chuck on top, on top of all of
that fixturing, looks like a kludge. There is no way you'd use a chuck
that way for gear work. And if the suggestion is that she's indicating
or gaging spelling intentional a gear tooth, there is no apparent
way to accomplish the measuring. And that is no freaking measuring
machine.

I'd give it four Pinocchios. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:41:52 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a
turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe"
elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks
more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe.
Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan

I don't think it's a lathe of any kind. It looks like a
special-purpose bed-type milling machine, built to handle that big
rotary table. The drive shaft suggests that it's a production
machine,
but it looks like she's locating the setup with the handwheels --
for
an operation that could have no possible relation to the powered
shaft. Here's a sharper version of that photo:

https://tinyurl.com/y9wycx3u

I question whether the photo is of a real operation, or whether it
was
cooked up for the photo. The reason I say that is that there's a
gear
fixtured on top, and a toolholder that looks like it could be for a
shaping operation. But the toolholder doesn't look like it's holding
a
shaping tool. And there's no way, in wartime production or any kind
of
production, that you would cut a gear like that with a single-point
cutting tool making straight cuts. Even if you did, one of the
handwheels would have a big and obvious index-pin dial on it.

The whole setup is screwy. The lathe chuck on top, on top of all of
that fixturing, looks like a kludge. There is no way you'd use a
chuck
that way for gear work. And if the suggestion is that she's
indicating
or gaging spelling intentional a gear tooth, there is no apparent
way to accomplish the measuring. And that is no freaking measuring
machine.

I'd give it four Pinocchios. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:41:52 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a
turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe"
elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks
more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe.
Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan

I don't think it's a lathe of any kind. It looks like a
special-purpose bed-type milling machine, built to handle that big
rotary table. The drive shaft suggests that it's a production
machine,
but it looks like she's locating the setup with the handwheels --
for
an operation that could have no possible relation to the powered
shaft. Here's a sharper version of that photo:

https://tinyurl.com/y9wycx3u

I question whether the photo is of a real operation, or whether it
was
cooked up for the photo. The reason I say that is that there's a
gear
fixtured on top, and a toolholder that looks like it could be for a
shaping operation. But the toolholder doesn't look like it's holding
a
shaping tool. And there's no way, in wartime production or any kind
of
production, that you would cut a gear like that with a single-point
cutting tool making straight cuts. Even if you did, one of the
handwheels would have a big and obvious index-pin dial on it.

The whole setup is screwy. The lathe chuck on top, on top of all of
that fixturing, looks like a kludge. There is no way you'd use a
chuck
that way for gear work. And if the suggestion is that she's
indicating
or gaging spelling intentional a gear tooth, there is no apparent
way to accomplish the measuring. And that is no freaking measuring
machine.

I'd give it four Pinocchios. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

It looks to me like a lash-up to broach an oddball keyway or splines,
unless somone just placed the gear atop the jaws for appearance. I
suspect it was chosen for the photo to show her face next to something
complex and exotic-looking that wasn't in use, covered with oily chips
and spewing them toward the camera.
-jsw

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
news
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:41:52 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a
turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe"
elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks
more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret
lathe. Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan

I don't think it's a lathe of any kind. It looks like a
special-purpose bed-type milling machine, built to handle that big
rotary table. The drive shaft suggests that it's a production
machine,
but it looks like she's locating the setup with the handwheels --
for
an operation that could have no possible relation to the powered
shaft. Here's a sharper version of that photo:

https://tinyurl.com/y9wycx3u

I question whether the photo is of a real operation, or whether it
was
cooked up for the photo. The reason I say that is that there's a
gear
fixtured on top, and a toolholder that looks like it could be for a
shaping operation. But the toolholder doesn't look like it's
holding a
shaping tool. And there's no way, in wartime production or any kind
of
production, that you would cut a gear like that with a single-point
cutting tool making straight cuts. Even if you did, one of the
handwheels would have a big and obvious index-pin dial on it.

The whole setup is screwy. The lathe chuck on top, on top of all of
that fixturing, looks like a kludge. There is no way you'd use a
chuck
that way for gear work. And if the suggestion is that she's
indicating
or gaging spelling intentional a gear tooth, there is no apparent
way to accomplish the measuring. And that is no freaking measuring
machine.

I'd give it four Pinocchios. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

It looks to me like a lash-up to broach an oddball keyway or
splines, unless somone just placed the gear atop the jaws for
appearance. I suspect it was chosen for the photo to show her face
next to something complex and exotic-looking that wasn't in use,
covered with oily chips and spewing them toward the camera.
-jsw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagonal_method

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:45:52 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:41:52 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a
turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe"
elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks
more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe.
Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan

I don't think it's a lathe of any kind. It looks like a
special-purpose bed-type milling machine, built to handle that big
rotary table. The drive shaft suggests that it's a production
machine,
but it looks like she's locating the setup with the handwheels --
for
an operation that could have no possible relation to the powered
shaft. Here's a sharper version of that photo:

https://tinyurl.com/y9wycx3u

I question whether the photo is of a real operation, or whether it
was
cooked up for the photo. The reason I say that is that there's a
gear
fixtured on top, and a toolholder that looks like it could be for a
shaping operation. But the toolholder doesn't look like it's holding
a
shaping tool. And there's no way, in wartime production or any kind
of
production, that you would cut a gear like that with a single-point
cutting tool making straight cuts. Even if you did, one of the
handwheels would have a big and obvious index-pin dial on it.

The whole setup is screwy. The lathe chuck on top, on top of all of
that fixturing, looks like a kludge. There is no way you'd use a
chuck
that way for gear work. And if the suggestion is that she's
indicating
or gaging spelling intentional a gear tooth, there is no apparent
way to accomplish the measuring. And that is no freaking measuring
machine.

I'd give it four Pinocchios. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

It looks to me like a lash-up to broach an oddball keyway or splines,
unless somone just placed the gear atop the jaws for appearance. I
suspect it was chosen for the photo to show her face next to something
complex and exotic-looking that wasn't in use, covered with oily chips
and spewing them toward the camera.
-jsw


First, that Tiny URL I posted above doesn't seem to work. That's the
first time that's ever happened for me. Tiny URL seems to have a
problem with the full URL. Here's the full one:

https://www.gettyimages.com/pictures...re-id515383728

It's physically possible that it's set up to cut a keyway, but I still
don't believe the setup. It's an awful kludge. And if it's intended to
cut splines, how is she indexing it? Finally, if that's figured out, I
hope she's not in a hurry -- it's not like there was a war going on or
something. g

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:10:16 -0500
Ed Huntress wrote:

First, that Tiny URL I posted above doesn't seem to work. That's the
first time that's ever happened for me. Tiny URL seems to have a
problem with the full URL. Here's the full one:

https://www.gettyimages.com/pictures...re-id515383728

It's physically possible that it's set up to cut a keyway, but I still
don't believe the setup. It's an awful kludge. And if it's intended to
cut splines, how is she indexing it? Finally, if that's figured out, I
hope she's not in a hurry -- it's not like there was a war going on or
something. g

I didn't find an exact match, but what's called a "slotting machine"
seems to be close. Here are a few examples:

https://www.resale.info/en/stanko-7-...l/No-123348639

https://www.worldmach.com/metal-proc...g-machine.html

http://www.planomiller.co.in/elite-s...e-4047350.html

https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-industri...30910191110509

They seem to be making them yet in many sizes...

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:28:51 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:10:16 -0500
Ed Huntress wrote:

First, that Tiny URL I posted above doesn't seem to work. That's the
first time that's ever happened for me. Tiny URL seems to have a
problem with the full URL. Here's the full one:

https://www.gettyimages.com/pictures...re-id515383728

It's physically possible that it's set up to cut a keyway, but I still
don't believe the setup. It's an awful kludge. And if it's intended to
cut splines, how is she indexing it? Finally, if that's figured out, I
hope she's not in a hurry -- it's not like there was a war going on or
something. g

I didn't find an exact match, but what's called a "slotting machine"
seems to be close. Here are a few examples:

https://www.resale.info/en/stanko-7-...l/No-123348639

https://www.worldmach.com/metal-proc...g-machine.html

http://www.planomiller.co.in/elite-s...e-4047350.html

https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-industri...30910191110509

They seem to be making them yet in many sizes...

Yup. That's it. It's a kind of vertical shaper.

The setup, though, is still a kludge. g

--
Ed Huntress

"Leon Fisk" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:10:16 -0500
Ed Huntress wrote:

First, that Tiny URL I posted above doesn't seem to work. That's the
first time that's ever happened for me. Tiny URL seems to have a
problem with the full URL. Here's the full one:

https://www.gettyimages.com/pictures...re-id515383728

It's physically possible that it's set up to cut a keyway, but I
still
don't believe the setup. It's an awful kludge. And if it's intended
to
cut splines, how is she indexing it? Finally, if that's figured out,
I
hope she's not in a hurry -- it's not like there was a war going on
or
something. g

I didn't find an exact match, but what's called a "slotting machine"
seems to be close. Here are a few examples:

https://www.resale.info/en/stanko-7-...l/No-123348639

https://www.worldmach.com/metal-proc...g-machine.html

http://www.planomiller.co.in/elite-s...e-4047350.html

https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-industri...30910191110509

They seem to be making them yet in many sizes...

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b

I thought so too, but searching for images of slotters quickly
consumed my meager daily ration of 3G wireless 'broadband' and dialup
is impractical for pictures.

The clapper box looks like a shaper's. The knee appears to rest on the
floor, though.

I have to agree that the photo doesn't quite make sense from the
available information.
-jsw

"Leon Fisk" wrote in message
news
How do you pronounce the designation of a wide flange beam, such as a
W6x12? I learned from texts and never heard it spoken.
-jsw

My opinion is that it is a slotter and the machine is set up for
making a gear. as there ar no chips around, it does not depict a
production situation, maybe a photo op of a nice looking female next to
a slotter.

i

On 2018-02-19, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:41:52 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe" elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe. Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan

I don't think it's a lathe of any kind. It looks like a
special-purpose bed-type milling machine, built to handle that big
rotary table. The drive shaft suggests that it's a production machine,
but it looks like she's locating the setup with the handwheels -- for
an operation that could have no possible relation to the powered
shaft. Here's a sharper version of that photo:

https://tinyurl.com/y9wycx3u

I question whether the photo is of a real operation, or whether it was
cooked up for the photo. The reason I say that is that there's a gear
fixtured on top, and a toolholder that looks like it could be for a
shaping operation. But the toolholder doesn't look like it's holding a
shaping tool. And there's no way, in wartime production or any kind of
production, that you would cut a gear like that with a single-point
cutting tool making straight cuts. Even if you did, one of the
handwheels would have a big and obvious index-pin dial on it.

The whole setup is screwy. The lathe chuck on top, on top of all of
that fixturing, looks like a kludge. There is no way you'd use a chuck
that way for gear work. And if the suggestion is that she's indicating
or gaging spelling intentional a gear tooth, there is no apparent
way to accomplish the measuring. And that is no freaking measuring
machine.

I'd give it four Pinocchios. d8-)

On 2018-02-20, Ignoramus19723 wrote:
My opinion is that it is a slotter and the machine is set up for
making a gear. as there ar no chips around, it does not depict a
production situation, maybe a photo op of a nice looking female next to
a slotter.

and here it is, a Pratt and Whitney vertical slotter that looks very
similar to Rosie's machine.

https://www.surplusrecord.com/cgi-bin/adpop.pl?005901

Look at picture No. 3:

https://www.surplusrecord.com/listphotos/005901b.jpg


i

i

On 2018-02-19, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:41:52 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe" elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe. Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan

I don't think it's a lathe of any kind. It looks like a
special-purpose bed-type milling machine, built to handle that big
rotary table. The drive shaft suggests that it's a production machine,
but it looks like she's locating the setup with the handwheels -- for
an operation that could have no possible relation to the powered
shaft. Here's a sharper version of that photo:

https://tinyurl.com/y9wycx3u

I question whether the photo is of a real operation, or whether it was
cooked up for the photo. The reason I say that is that there's a gear
fixtured on top, and a toolholder that looks like it could be for a
shaping operation. But the toolholder doesn't look like it's holding a
shaping tool. And there's no way, in wartime production or any kind of
production, that you would cut a gear like that with a single-point
cutting tool making straight cuts. Even if you did, one of the
handwheels would have a big and obvious index-pin dial on it.

The whole setup is screwy. The lathe chuck on top, on top of all of
that fixturing, looks like a kludge. There is no way you'd use a chuck
that way for gear work. And if the suggestion is that she's indicating
or gaging spelling intentional a gear tooth, there is no apparent
way to accomplish the measuring. And that is no freaking measuring
machine.

I'd give it four Pinocchios. d8-)

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:24:51 -0600
Ignoramus19723 wrote:

On 2018-02-20, Ignoramus19723 wrote:
My opinion is that it is a slotter and the machine is set up for
making a gear. as there ar no chips around, it does not depict a
production situation, maybe a photo op of a nice looking female next to
a slotter.

and here it is, a Pratt and Whitney vertical slotter that looks very
similar to Rosie's machine.

https://www.surplusrecord.com/cgi-bin/adpop.pl?005901

Look at picture No. 3:

https://www.surplusrecord.com/listphotos/005901b.jpg

Yeah, that picture sure looks right. There are two different machines
in that set of pictures. About half the images are the model that look
like Rosie's and the others don't...

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b

On 2018-02-20, Leon Fisk wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:24:51 -0600
Ignoramus19723 wrote:

On 2018-02-20, Ignoramus19723 wrote:
My opinion is that it is a slotter and the machine is set up for
making a gear. as there ar no chips around, it does not depict a
production situation, maybe a photo op of a nice looking female next to
a slotter.

and here it is, a Pratt and Whitney vertical slotter that looks very
similar to Rosie's machine.

https://www.surplusrecord.com/cgi-bin/adpop.pl?005901

Look at picture No. 3:

https://www.surplusrecord.com/listphotos/005901b.jpg

Yeah, that picture sure looks right. There are two different machines
in that set of pictures. About half the images are the model that look
like Rosie's and the others don't...

Yes. Even the above jpeg is not the exact machine that rosie worked
with as I found some slight differences/.

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:24:51 -0600, Ignoramus19723
wrote:

On 2018-02-20, Ignoramus19723 wrote:
My opinion is that it is a slotter and the machine is set up for
making a gear. as there ar no chips around, it does not depict a
production situation, maybe a photo op of a nice looking female next to
a slotter.

and here it is, a Pratt and Whitney vertical slotter that looks very
similar to Rosie's machine.

https://www.surplusrecord.com/cgi-bin/adpop.pl?005901

Look at picture No. 3:

https://www.surplusrecord.com/listphotos/005901b.jpg

Images 3, 5, and 7 are for a different machine than the rest. These
show 3 controls on the front while all the rest have only one.
I think you nailed it, though.

Is "slotter" one brand's name for "shaper"?


BTW, when did you start top-posting? I noticed it yesterday.

--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill

On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 05:50:35 -0800
Larry Jaques wrote:

snip
Is "slotter" one brand's name for "shaper"?

They're a bit more different than that:

https://me-mechanicalengineering.com/slotting-machine/


--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b

On 2018-02-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:24:51 -0600, Ignoramus19723
wrote:

On 2018-02-20, Ignoramus19723 wrote:
My opinion is that it is a slotter and the machine is set up for
making a gear. as there ar no chips around, it does not depict a
production situation, maybe a photo op of a nice looking female next to
a slotter.

and here it is, a Pratt and Whitney vertical slotter that looks very
similar to Rosie's machine.

https://www.surplusrecord.com/cgi-bin/adpop.pl?005901

Look at picture No. 3:

https://www.surplusrecord.com/listphotos/005901b.jpg

Images 3, 5, and 7 are for a different machine than the rest. These
show 3 controls on the front while all the rest have only one.
I think you nailed it, though.

It was a mix of unrelated pictures, it seems, only this picture is the
correct one:

https://www.surplusrecord.com/listphotos/005901b.jpg

h
Is "slotter" one brand's name for "shaper"?

not sure


BTW, when did you start top-posting? I noticed it yesterday.


I often do it

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:24:51 -0600, Ignoramus19723
wrote:

On 2018-02-20, Ignoramus19723 wrote:
My opinion is that it is a slotter and the machine is set up for
making a gear. as there ar no chips around, it does not depict a
production situation, maybe a photo op of a nice looking female next to
a slotter.

and here it is, a Pratt and Whitney vertical slotter that looks very
similar to Rosie's machine.

https://www.surplusrecord.com/cgi-bin/adpop.pl?005901

Look at picture No. 3:

https://www.surplusrecord.com/listphotos/005901b.jpg

That's it, all right. Now, what was Rosie doing with the handwheels?

She's not indexing it; she isn't even looking at the indexing
handwheel. Is she eyeballing the rotary indexing and the X-Y
positioning? Unlikely, unless the bore of the gear has been marked out
on a surface plate and she's setting it up to cut to the mark.

But if she's doing that, how does she know that she's set up
perpendicular to the centerline?

Once again, it looks like a photo op.

--
Ed Huntress


i

i

On 2018-02-19, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:41:52 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe" elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe. Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan

I don't think it's a lathe of any kind. It looks like a
special-purpose bed-type milling machine, built to handle that big
rotary table. The drive shaft suggests that it's a production machine,
but it looks like she's locating the setup with the handwheels -- for
an operation that could have no possible relation to the powered
shaft. Here's a sharper version of that photo:

https://tinyurl.com/y9wycx3u

I question whether the photo is of a real operation, or whether it was
cooked up for the photo. The reason I say that is that there's a gear
fixtured on top, and a toolholder that looks like it could be for a
shaping operation. But the toolholder doesn't look like it's holding a
shaping tool. And there's no way, in wartime production or any kind of
production, that you would cut a gear like that with a single-point
cutting tool making straight cuts. Even if you did, one of the
handwheels would have a big and obvious index-pin dial on it.

The whole setup is screwy. The lathe chuck on top, on top of all of
that fixturing, looks like a kludge. There is no way you'd use a chuck
that way for gear work. And if the suggestion is that she's indicating
or gaging spelling intentional a gear tooth, there is no apparent
way to accomplish the measuring. And that is no freaking measuring
machine.

I'd give it four Pinocchios. d8-)

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:24:51 -0600, Ignoramus19723
wrote:

On 2018-02-20, Ignoramus19723
wrote:
My opinion is that it is a slotter and the machine is set up for
making a gear. as there ar no chips around, it does not depict a
production situation, maybe a photo op of a nice looking female
next to
a slotter.

and here it is, a Pratt and Whitney vertical slotter that looks very
similar to Rosie's machine.

https://www.surplusrecord.com/cgi-bin/adpop.pl?005901

Look at picture No. 3:

https://www.surplusrecord.com/listphotos/005901b.jpg

That's it, all right. Now, what was Rosie doing with the handwheels?

She's not indexing it; she isn't even looking at the indexing
handwheel. Is she eyeballing the rotary indexing and the X-Y
positioning? Unlikely, unless the bore of the gear has been marked
out
on a surface plate and she's setting it up to cut to the mark.

But if she's doing that, how does she know that she's set up
perpendicular to the centerline?

Once again, it looks like a photo op.

--
Ed Huntress

Of course it's a photo op(portunity), there aren't any chips and she
isn't wearing safety glasses. Her hands are on two handles to support
herself leaning forward. Why would you expect 'cinema verite' in a
busy factory?

The P&W slotter may have been the only machine available that allowed
the bulky tripod-mounted view camera to catch the operator's face
while they pretend to work. I've done enough industrial photography to
know how difficult that can be.

I suspect there were many bracketing shots to obtain a proper exposure
of her skin without excessive glare off the bare metal. There is
contrast and texture fairly deep into the shadows without much
overexposure of the highlights.

-jsw

On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 09:58:44 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:24:51 -0600, Ignoramus19723
wrote:

On 2018-02-20, Ignoramus19723 wrote:
My opinion is that it is a slotter and the machine is set up for
making a gear. as there ar no chips around, it does not depict a
production situation, maybe a photo op of a nice looking female next to
a slotter.

and here it is, a Pratt and Whitney vertical slotter that looks very
similar to Rosie's machine.

https://www.surplusrecord.com/cgi-bin/adpop.pl?005901

Look at picture No. 3:

https://www.surplusrecord.com/listphotos/005901b.jpg

That's it, all right. Now, what was Rosie doing with the handwheels?

She's not indexing it; she isn't even looking at the indexing
handwheel. Is she eyeballing the rotary indexing and the X-Y
positioning? Unlikely, unless the bore of the gear has been marked out
on a surface plate and she's setting it up to cut to the mark.

But if she's doing that, how does she know that she's set up
perpendicular to the centerline?

Once again, it looks like a photo op.
Of course it's a photo op. Look at her shoes. Not really appropriate
for a machine shop.
Eric

"Ignoramus19723" wrote in
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On 2018-02-20, Ignoramus19723
wrote:
My opinion is that it is a slotter and the machine is set up for
making a gear. as there ar no chips around, it does not depict a
production situation, maybe a photo op of a nice looking female
next to
a slotter.

and here it is, a Pratt and Whitney vertical slotter that looks very
similar to Rosie's machine.

https://www.surplusrecord.com/cgi-bin/adpop.pl?005901

Look at picture No. 3:

https://www.surplusrecord.com/listphotos/005901b.jpg

Congratulations for finding it. The only real difference I see is that
on hers the indexer is bolted on instead of integral. The fittings I
took to be clapper box hinges are apparently setscrews that
rotationally position the tool holder.
-jsw

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Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a
turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe"
elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks
more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe.
Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan

=================

There were multiple Rosies, one a local NH woman:
https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...sing/26596263/

wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...parker-fraley-
wartime-machinist-linked-to-rosie-the-riveter-dies-
at-96/2018/01/23/10335d0e-004e-11e8-8acf-
ad2991367d9d_story.html?utm_term=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a turret
lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe" elsewhere) in this
obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks more like a milling
machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe. Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan
I think it is a shaper. The tool looks MUCH like a shaper tool, and seems
like it might be held in a clapper box, although it looks kind of different
from what I'm used to seeing. If the setup is the way it was used, and not
just something thrown together for the photo, then she would be cutting a
groove in the FACE of the gear.

Jon

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:41:52 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe" elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe. Is it a gear broach?

Whoooeee! That's a right nice lookin' machinist. Hubba hubba.
Naomi, if you were Rosie's inspiration, ya done good, girl. RIP


Anybody recognize it?

It looks more like a vertical shaper to me, set up for gear ID
slotting. (not that I'd know anything about either, yet.

There were vertical turret lathes: https://is.gd/dIctwu
And there were vertical shapers: https://is.gd/mYNUkg
Which look pretty similar at a glance.

--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:41:52 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a
turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe"
elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks
more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe.
Is it a gear broach?

Whoooeee! That's a right nice lookin' machinist. Hubba hubba.
Naomi, if you were Rosie's inspiration, ya done good, girl. RIP


Anybody recognize it?

It looks more like a vertical shaper to me, set up for gear ID
slotting. (not that I'd know anything about either, yet.

There were vertical turret lathes: https://is.gd/dIctwu
And there were vertical shapers: https://is.gd/mYNUkg
Which look pretty similar at a glance.

I bought a transmission-end motorcycle chain drive sprocket for my
sawmill and then discovered it has a 13-spline center hole, that I
couldn't index to groove the shaft. The final milling setup using a
52-tooth Sears AA lathe change gear was about that kludgy.
-jsw

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:41:52 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi Folks,

What is this machine?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.bb8abd1abc2c

The Washington Post article from which is comes refers to it as a turret lathe (2/3 the way down the article, and just a "lathe" elsewhere) in this obituary on "Rosie the Rivetter". But it looks more like a milling machine with a rotary table than a turret lathe. Is it a gear broach?

Anybody recognize it?

Dan


Its neither..its a slotter

Like this one:

http://www.eifcomachinetools.com/slotting_machine.htm


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