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On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-8, slow eddy wrote:
At the Fabtech show in Chicago last week there were 525 welding
exhibits. It's hard to believe how many little companies (many from
China) are building little scratch-start TIG/stick boxes these days,
but the big guys aren't dropping prices. Instead, they're building in
some pretty amazing technology.

One that caught a lot of attention is the new Rebel from ESAB. It's so
adaptive that it's amazing. They grabbed students off the floor and
had them weld with it; it made the kids look pretty good. It only has
a few controls. You don't even have to adjust gases for MIG (although
it has regular controls for the experts).

http://www.esabna.com/us/en/dare/

It's worth a look. The price for being a welding dummy is pretty high
these days -- this one is introduced at $1,700 -- but it's nice to
know what it is you'd like to have if you could justify it. It's not a
hobby machine but it's perfect for well-heeled hobbyists.

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slow eddy is a ****ing moron:

Many Chinese affordable welders have hi-frequency start for TIG.

Miller has been pushing "welding dummy" tech for years now with their Auto-Set technology:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_UaYKse_Z4




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On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 12:06:54 PM UTC-8, jon_banquer wrote:
On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-8, slow eddy wrote:
At the Fabtech show in Chicago last week there were 525 welding
exhibits. It's hard to believe how many little companies (many from
China) are building little scratch-start TIG/stick boxes these days,
but the big guys aren't dropping prices. Instead, they're building in
some pretty amazing technology.

One that caught a lot of attention is the new Rebel from ESAB. It's so
adaptive that it's amazing. They grabbed students off the floor and
had them weld with it; it made the kids look pretty good. It only has
a few controls. You don't even have to adjust gases for MIG (although
it has regular controls for the experts).

http://www.esabna.com/us/en/dare/

It's worth a look. The price for being a welding dummy is pretty high
these days -- this one is introduced at $1,700 -- but it's nice to
know what it is you'd like to have if you could justify it. It's not a
hobby machine but it's perfect for well-heeled hobbyists.

--
slow eddy



slow eddy is a ****ing moron:

Many Chinese affordable welders have hi-frequency start for TIG.

Miller has been pushing "welding dummy" tech for years now with their Auto-Set technology:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_UaYKse_Z4



Instead of the ridiculous hype that's not helpful and that loser slow eddy posted, look for videos like this on the ESAB Rebel that give you helpful and valuable information:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGUpuLfI4q0
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On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 12:06:54 PM UTC-8, jon_banquer wrote:
On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-8, slow eddy wrote:
At the Fabtech show in Chicago last week there were 525 welding
exhibits. It's hard to believe how many little companies (many from
China) are building little scratch-start TIG/stick boxes these days,
but the big guys aren't dropping prices. Instead, they're building in
some pretty amazing technology.

One that caught a lot of attention is the new Rebel from ESAB. It's so
adaptive that it's amazing. They grabbed students off the floor and
had them weld with it; it made the kids look pretty good. It only has
a few controls. You don't even have to adjust gases for MIG (although
it has regular controls for the experts).

http://www.esabna.com/us/en/dare/

It's worth a look. The price for being a welding dummy is pretty high
these days -- this one is introduced at $1,700 -- but it's nice to
know what it is you'd like to have if you could justify it. It's not a
hobby machine but it's perfect for well-heeled hobbyists.

--
slow eddy



slow eddy is a ****ing moron:

Many Chinese affordable welders have hi-frequency start for TIG.

Miller has been pushing "welding dummy" tech for years now with their Auto-Set technology:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_UaYKse_Z4



Here is a list of ESAB videos on the Rebel that show off what it does differently:

https://www.youtube.com/user/esabweb/videos
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 12:06:46 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
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On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-8, slow eddy wrote:
At the Fabtech show in Chicago last week there were 525 welding
exhibits. It's hard to believe how many little companies (many from
China) are building little scratch-start TIG/stick boxes these days,
but the big guys aren't dropping prices. Instead, they're building in
some pretty amazing technology.

One that caught a lot of attention is the new Rebel from ESAB. It's so
adaptive that it's amazing. They grabbed students off the floor and
had them weld with it; it made the kids look pretty good. It only has
a few controls. You don't even have to adjust gases for MIG (although
it has regular controls for the experts).

http://www.esabna.com/us/en/dare/

It's worth a look. The price for being a welding dummy is pretty high
these days -- this one is introduced at $1,700 -- but it's nice to
know what it is you'd like to have if you could justify it. It's not a
hobby machine but it's perfect for well-heeled hobbyists.

--
slow eddy



slow eddy is a ****ing moron:

Many Chinese affordable welders have hi-frequency start for TIG.

Miller has been pushing "welding dummy" tech for years now with their Auto-Set technology:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_UaYKse_Z4


I spent a couple of hours with Miller at the show and I talk to them
several times every month. I know what they're doing. You watch videos
to help you find the "on" switch. d8-)

Out of 525 welding exhibits at Fabtech, dozens of them were Chinese
box-makers we never heard of, like Hsin Fu Chia Industrial Co Ltd,
Jiangyin Xinlian Welding Equipment Co, and so on. They were all
grouped together. In a show that had a record attendance of over
70,000, the rows of Chinese welders looked like Death Valley.

You really ought to get out more and stop watching so many pay-to-play
videos, Bonkers.

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