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Ignoramus5626 wrote:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory Excellent ! "It's a tractor , the paperworks says so ." -- Snag |
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On 2015-09-16, Terry Coombs wrote:
Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory Excellent ! "It's a tractor , the paperworks says so ." I kind of see their point, because those armored vehicles do not look armed, just armored. i |
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On 2015-09-16, Terry Coombs wrote:
Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory Excellent ! "It's a tractor , the paperworks says so ." I also wanted to say, these pictures are so close to my heart, I love those dilapidated brick buildings with bridge cranes, and dusty machines with peeling paint, burst pipes, etc. I am doing some work in one right now in Chicago. i |
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On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 6:13:17 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus5626 wrote:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory A sad ****ing joke. This is what a modern machining job shop looks like: http://www.pyramidprecision.com/ |
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jon_banquer wrote:
On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 6:13:17 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory A sad ****ing joke. This is what a modern machining job shop looks like: http://www.pyramidprecision.com/ Well, you know, they ARE in a civil war right now, and the other side is backed by the Russians! They are doing what they have to. Jon |
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 21:52:16 -0500, Ignoramus5626
wrote: On 2015-09-16, Terry Coombs wrote: Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory Excellent ! "It's a tractor , the paperworks says so ." I also wanted to say, these pictures are so close to my heart, I love those dilapidated brick buildings with bridge cranes, and dusty machines with peeling paint, burst pipes, etc. I am doing some work in one right now in Chicago. Yeah, lots of "character". I especially like the several inches of dirt on the concrete floor at Azov. (What's that all about?) -- I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues. --Duke Ellington |
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On 2015-09-16, Jon Elson wrote:
jon_banquer wrote: On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 6:13:17 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory A sad ****ing joke. This is what a modern machining job shop looks like: http://www.pyramidprecision.com/ Well, you know, they ARE in a civil war right now, and the other side is backed by the Russians! They are doing what they have to. That Ukrainian facility was never meant to be a precision job shop. i |
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On 2015-09-16, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 21:52:16 -0500, Ignoramus5626 wrote: On 2015-09-16, Terry Coombs wrote: Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory Excellent ! "It's a tractor , the paperworks says so ." I also wanted to say, these pictures are so close to my heart, I love those dilapidated brick buildings with bridge cranes, and dusty machines with peeling paint, burst pipes, etc. I am doing some work in one right now in Chicago. Yeah, lots of "character". I especially like the several inches of dirt on the concrete floor at Azov. (What's that all about?) I do not think that there are several inches of dirt. i |
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On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 04:08:39 -0500, Ignoramus5626
wrote: On 2015-09-16, Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 21:52:16 -0500, Ignoramus5626 wrote: On 2015-09-16, Terry Coombs wrote: Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory Excellent ! "It's a tractor , the paperworks says so ." I also wanted to say, these pictures are so close to my heart, I love those dilapidated brick buildings with bridge cranes, and dusty machines with peeling paint, burst pipes, etc. I am doing some work in one right now in Chicago. Yeah, lots of "character". I especially like the several inches of dirt on the concrete floor at Azov. (What's that all about?) I do not think that there are several inches of dirt. Call it "dirt and debris"? Lower left of 1st and 3rd pictures. I guess it's only 1/4" on the tank build floor, since we can still see expansion joints. I got to thinking about it and decided that if they cleaned the place up and painted the machinery, the owner would probably double their rent. Otherwise, they seem well motivated. -- I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues. --Duke Ellington |
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On 9/15/2015 10:52 PM, Ignoramus5626 wrote:
On 2015-09-16, Terry Coombs wrote: Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory Excellent ! "It's a tractor , the paperworks says so ." I also wanted to say, these pictures are so close to my heart, I love those dilapidated brick buildings with bridge cranes, and dusty machines with peeling paint, burst pipes, etc. I am doing some work in one right now in Chicago. i Come to Cleveland, plenty of old stuff here! |
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On 9/16/2015 5:07 AM, Ignoramus5626 wrote:
On 2015-09-16, Jon Elson wrote: jon_banquer wrote: On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 6:13:17 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory A sad ****ing joke. This is what a modern machining job shop looks like: http://www.pyramidprecision.com/ Well, you know, they ARE in a civil war right now, and the other side is backed by the Russians! They are doing what they have to. That Ukrainian facility was never meant to be a precision job shop. i The definition of "Quality" is meeting the customer's requirements. Aesthetics and precision beyond need only add cost. |
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On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 8:38:53 PM UTC-7, Jon Elson wrote:
jon_banquer wrote: On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 6:13:17 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory A sad ****ing joke. This is what a modern machining job shop looks like: http://www.pyramidprecision.com/ Well, you know, they ARE in a civil war right now, and the other side is backed by the Russians! They are doing what they have to. Jon So is it your claim that this represents the typical machine shop in the Ukraine? |
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On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 2:07:37 AM UTC-7, Ignoramus5626 wrote:
On 2015-09-16, Jon Elson wrote: jon_banquer wrote: On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 6:13:17 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory A sad ****ing joke. This is what a modern machining job shop looks like: http://www.pyramidprecision.com/ Well, you know, they ARE in a civil war right now, and the other side is backed by the Russians! They are doing what they have to. That Ukrainian facility was never meant to be a precision job shop. i You were never meant to do precision machining. |
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On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 5:25:56 AM UTC-7, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 9/16/2015 5:07 AM, Ignoramus5626 wrote: On 2015-09-16, Jon Elson wrote: jon_banquer wrote: On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 6:13:17 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory A sad ****ing joke. This is what a modern machining job shop looks like: http://www.pyramidprecision.com/ Well, you know, they ARE in a civil war right now, and the other side is backed by the Russians! They are doing what they have to. That Ukrainian facility was never meant to be a precision job shop. i The definition of "Quality" is meeting the customer's requirements. Aesthetics and precision beyond need only add cost. No, that's your definition. |
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On 9/16/2015 2:51 PM, jon_banquer wrote:
The definition of "Quality" is meeting the customer's requirements. Aesthetics and precision beyond need only add cost. No, that's your definition. I'm a student of Deming. Over-precision does not equal higher quality http://metalcutting.com/your-tight-t...ing-part-cost/ "The good news is that there are many instances where looser tolerance may be perfectly acceptable. If a tolerance is tighter than you really need, you’ll end up paying for it. But by carefully considering the end use, where the part is going, and what the part needs to do before specifying a tight tolerance, you can distinguish between critical and non-critical tolerances, and minimizing your cost of quality." |
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On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 2:19:16 PM UTC-7, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 9/16/2015 2:51 PM, jon_banquer wrote: The definition of "Quality" is meeting the customer's requirements. Aesthetics and precision beyond need only add cost. No, that's your definition. I'm a student of Deming. Over-precision does not equal higher quality http://metalcutting.com/your-tight-t...ing-part-cost/ "The good news is that there are many instances where looser tolerance may be perfectly acceptable. If a tolerance is tighter than you really need, you'll end up paying for it. But by carefully considering the end use, where the part is going, and what the part needs to do before specifying a tight tolerance, you can distinguish between critical and non-critical tolerances, and minimizing your cost of quality." I accept your opinion and Demmings. I don't agree that it applies in all cases. |
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Ignoramus5626 wrote:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory The only metalworking in those photos is rusting or peeling leaded paint. |
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On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 8:38:53 PM UTC-7, Jon Elson wrote:
jon_banquer wrote: On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 6:13:17 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory A sad ****ing joke. This is what a modern machining job shop looks like: http://www.pyramidprecision.com/ Well, you know, they ARE in a civil war right now, and the other side is backed by the Russians! They are doing what they have to. Jon This change your mind at all? http://www.techpilot.net/profiles/Li...html#Machinery |
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On 2015-09-17, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory The only metalworking in those photos is rusting or peeling leaded paint. Why, they are up-armoring vehicles in that shop. i |
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Ignoramus22966 wrote:
On 2015-09-17, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory The only metalworking in those photos is rusting or peeling leaded paint. Why, they are up-armoring vehicles in that shop. Where? I saw no pictures of people doing anything other than standing still for a photo next to piles of rubble. There's nothing in the photos that any real work other than big talk is happening. |
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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message
... Ignoramus22966 wrote: On 2015-09-17, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory The only metalworking in those photos is rusting or peeling leaded paint. Why, they are up-armoring vehicles in that shop. Where? I saw no pictures of people doing anything other than standing still for a photo next to piles of rubble. There's nothing in the photos that any real work other than big talk is happening. Do you really think the presence of the camera crew has no effect? |
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Ignoramus22966 wrote: On 2015-09-17, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory The only metalworking in those photos is rusting or peeling leaded paint. Why, they are up-armoring vehicles in that shop. Where? I saw no pictures of people doing anything other than standing still for a photo next to piles of rubble. There's nothing in the photos that any real work other than big talk is happening. Do you really think the presence of the camera crew has no effect? Effect on what? There's nothing going on in that place. |
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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message
... Jim Wilkins wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Ignoramus22966 wrote: On 2015-09-17, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory The only metalworking in those photos is rusting or peeling leaded paint. Why, they are up-armoring vehicles in that shop. Where? I saw no pictures of people doing anything other than standing still for a photo next to piles of rubble. There's nothing in the photos that any real work other than big talk is happening. Do you really think the presence of the camera crew has no effect? Effect on what? There's nothing going on in that place. That's the effect! The employees are probably all standing around behind the photographer and watching, maybe hoping to be called on to pose or regretting they didn't put on decent clothes that morning. |
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On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 4:50:47 PM UTC-7, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Jim Wilkins wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Ignoramus22966 wrote: On 2015-09-17, Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus5626 wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-t...x-tank-factory The only metalworking in those photos is rusting or peeling leaded paint. Why, they are up-armoring vehicles in that shop. Where? I saw no pictures of people doing anything other than standing still for a photo next to piles of rubble. There's nothing in the photos that any real work other than big talk is happening. Do you really think the presence of the camera crew has no effect? Effect on what? There's nothing going on in that place. That's the effect! The employees are probably all standing around behind the photographer and watching, maybe hoping to be called on to pose or regretting they didn't put on decent clothes that morning. No. It's just not a shop that does precision work. |
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