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Windows update just installed win-10 on one of my computers.

CAUTION : The new browser does not save your favorites and bookmarks.

Adfender does not work on win-10.

Anyone know if win10 can be installed on a multiboot system on a new
partition?

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Windows update just installed win-10 on one of my computers.


Is this something I'm going to have to worry about - Microsoft
"fixing" what I consider "not that badly broken", with an even more
broken version?
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"Howard Beal" on Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:29:39 -0700
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Windows update just installed win-10 on one of my computers.


Is this something I'm going to have to worry about - Microsoft
"fixing" what I consider "not that badly broken", with an even more
broken version?
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"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."


Nope. Edge works fine. It stores all your recent sites, favorites,
reading lists, downloads and more all under a thing called the Hub.

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Is this something I'm going to have to worry about - Microsoft
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You don't get Win10 unless you _asked_ for Win10.

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Is this something I'm going to have to worry about - Microsoft
"fixing" what I consider "not that badly broken", with an even more
broken version?


You don't get Win10 unless you _asked_ for Win10.


Good.

I had to shift to win7. It works, but ... it is annoying.

Besides, the rule of thumb is to not get Microsoft products which
are the even numbered releases (ie, Excel 2, Windows 4, 8, 10, ...).
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com on Thu, 30 Jul
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Is this something I'm going to have to worry about - Microsoft
"fixing" what I consider "not that badly broken", with an even more
broken version?


You don't get Win10 unless you _asked_ for Win10.


Good.

I had to shift to win7. It works, but ... it is annoying.

Besides, the rule of thumb is to not get Microsoft products which
are the even numbered releases (ie, Excel 2, Windows 4, 8, 10, ...).
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"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

Their worst windows and DOS versions were the ODD numbered ones.
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Their worst windows and DOS versions were the ODD numbered ones.


MS-DOS 4 was a total lemon. DOS 6 had so many innovations that it was
a total PITA. DOS 5 was, within the intrinsic limitations of DOS, a
workhorse. I still have a Linux box that I can boot into DOS 5 for a
game and another program that I like.


Yep. There are still things which the command line alone makes
"simpler" to do. E.G., Robocopy.exe makes doing incremental backups
easier (once you've mastered the toggles and write a batch file.)
I mean, can Windows copy only newer files to a target location,
without requiring you to verify each and every one? If it can, the
method is a deeply concealed secret.


ObMetal: Did some clever things with Improces editing photos of forged
metalwork to adjust color tone and, in one instance, to actually
colorize a B&W photo to make the copper part look realisticaly like
the copper that it was. With DOS 5.

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Mike Spencer on 31 Jul 2015 01:44:52
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Their worst windows and DOS versions were the ODD numbered ones.


MS-DOS 4 was a total lemon. DOS 6 had so many innovations that it was
a total PITA. DOS 5 was, within the intrinsic limitations of DOS, a
workhorse. I still have a Linux box that I can boot into DOS 5 for a
game and another program that I like.


Yep. There are still things which the command line alone makes
"simpler" to do. E.G., Robocopy.exe makes doing incremental backups
easier (once you've mastered the toggles and write a batch file.)
I mean, can Windows copy only newer files to a target location,
without requiring you to verify each and every one? If it can, the
method is a deeply concealed secret.


ObMetal: Did some clever things with Improces editing photos of forged
metalwork to adjust color tone and, in one instance, to actually
colorize a B&W photo to make the copper part look realisticaly like
the copper that it was. With DOS 5.

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"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."


Win 10 does have an immulator that appears to work nicely..for the
stuff I tried. Ran some stuff in DOS and in Win98 mode..ran with no
problems

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On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-7, Howard Beal wrote:
Windows update just installed win-10 on one of my computers.

CAUTION : The new browser does not save your favorites and bookmarks.

Adfender does not work on win-10.

Anyone know if win10 can be installed on a multiboot system on a new
partition?

Best Regards
Tom.


I assume you're talking about Internet Explorer? If you have Firefox there's a way to share favorites and links between all machines on a network..
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Metal is in the printer and machine in machine.

If you have 8.1 on a machine 10 makes it look like it should have in the
first place. The ignorance of MS in the first out of 8 was even
pointed out by Gates himself. I have a wide screen on one machine and
the large array of big graphics after they use half of the screen up
with their apps - went another page wide. Now it is back into a
reasonable menu. No Win screen. Just like 7 with a nicer menu.

Bit painful to install printers - wireless pc and wireless printer -
had to work on both after I forced the driver set onto the computer.

Their printer set is light when installing from their own cabs. Still
missing a driver set. But time will tell.

I'd say - make the partitions large enough and give it a go. It will
install on the working one upon download. You have ZERO control on
where it goes. No cursor, no menu. Nice clock like and list control
indicators.

It went on a i7 cpu with big fast disk and memory - laptop - in an hour
and a half. Once it started it kept you informed and asked to be left
alone. It was the best upgrade I have seen of all windows since DOS.

I even have the previous 8.1 background picture I used on the user screen.

The browser seems to be fast and a browser. I'll use Firefox for what
I need and their for fast work when needed. I didn't have email
functional on the laptop and it seems to be a job to get that going.
Not sure what that tool will allow for domain site. e.g. gmail or only
MS mail.

Martin

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On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-7, Howard Beal wrote:
Windows update just installed win-10 on one of my computers.

CAUTION : The new browser does not save your favorites and bookmarks.

Adfender does not work on win-10.

Anyone know if win10 can be installed on a multiboot system on a new
partition?

Best Regards
Tom.


I assume you're talking about Internet Explorer? If you have Firefox there's a way to share favorites and links between all machines on a network..

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Besides, the rule of thumb is to not get Microsoft products which
are the even numbered releases (ie, Excel 2, Windows 4, 8, 10, ...).
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Or, the ones released on a Tuesday!

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