What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

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On 6/11/2015 7:18 AM, Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

jesus - could you possibly be more passive about obtaining information?

https://www.google.com/search?q=gara...utf-8&oe=utf-8

On 6/11/2015 9:21 AM, Neville M. Wiles wrote:
On 6/11/2015 7:18 AM, Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

jesus - could you possibly be more passive about obtaining information?

https://www.google.com/search?q=gara...utf-8&oe=utf-8



I recently used the 3 in 1 garage door lube from Lowes.
All I can add is, my wife's comment.

"What did you do to the garage door, it's so quiet!"

All I could say is, I spent half the afternoon working on it,
but I got it quieted down, for you dear. :-)

Mikek

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:51:57 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 6/11/2015 9:21 AM, Neville M. Wiles wrote:
On 6/11/2015 7:18 AM, Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

jesus - could you possibly be more passive about obtaining information?

https://www.google.com/search?q=gara...utf-8&oe=utf-8



I recently used the 3 in 1 garage door lube from Lowes.
All I can add is, my wife's comment.

"What did you do to the garage door, it's so quiet!"

All I could say is, I spent half the afternoon working on it,
but I got it quieted down, for you dear. :-)

Mikek


The non-engine lubricant business, like many other commodity
businesses, has made target-market differentiation its main method of
marketing. The idea is to take a commodity and claim that it's made
specifically for some special purpose. Kingsford Competition
Briquettes are one of my favorite examples. g

If they described it functionally, it would be something like "Garden
variety lubricant suitable for low-grade bearings that wobble around
with atrocious clearances in misaligned channels, and may have to run
with dirt of various kinds, including cat droppings. Prevents
screeching, howling, and absolute freezing of said low-grade bearings,
until it doesn't."

Give 'er another squirt, and see if it will spin...

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:51:57 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 6/11/2015 9:21 AM, Neville M. Wiles wrote:
On 6/11/2015 7:18 AM, Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

jesus - could you possibly be more passive about obtaining information?

https://www.google.com/search?q=gara...utf-8&oe=utf-8



I recently used the 3 in 1 garage door lube from Lowes.
All I can add is, my wife's comment.

"What did you do to the garage door, it's so quiet!"

All I could say is, I spent half the afternoon working on it,
but I got it quieted down, for you dear. :-)

Mikek


The non-engine lubricant business, like many other commodity
businesses, has made target-market differentiation its main method of
marketing. The idea is to take a commodity and claim that it's made
specifically for some special purpose. Kingsford Competition
Briquettes are one of my favorite examples. g

If they described it functionally, it would be something like "Garden
variety lubricant suitable for low-grade bearings that wobble around
with atrocious clearances in misaligned channels, and may have to run
with dirt of various kinds, including cat droppings. Prevents
screeching, howling, and absolute freezing of said low-grade bearings,
until it doesn't."

Give 'er another squirt, and see if it will spin...

Give them a little more credit than that.

the stuff is in a spray can, so they get points for ease of application vs
the complete garbage plastic oilers that 3 in 1 comes in now. All those
things do it drip oil everwhere but where you need it.

I botched up a screw drive garage door opener with a lube that well, was a
bit too thick. Took a while to clean all the crap off and apply the right
oil or lube it needed. Whoops.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:30:45 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:51:57 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 6/11/2015 9:21 AM, Neville M. Wiles wrote:
On 6/11/2015 7:18 AM, Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

jesus - could you possibly be more passive about obtaining information?

https://www.google.com/search?q=gara...utf-8&oe=utf-8



I recently used the 3 in 1 garage door lube from Lowes.
All I can add is, my wife's comment.

"What did you do to the garage door, it's so quiet!"

All I could say is, I spent half the afternoon working on it,
but I got it quieted down, for you dear. :-)

Mikek


The non-engine lubricant business, like many other commodity
businesses, has made target-market differentiation its main method of
marketing. The idea is to take a commodity and claim that it's made
specifically for some special purpose. Kingsford Competition
Briquettes are one of my favorite examples. g

If they described it functionally, it would be something like "Garden
variety lubricant suitable for low-grade bearings that wobble around
with atrocious clearances in misaligned channels, and may have to run
with dirt of various kinds, including cat droppings. Prevents
screeching, howling, and absolute freezing of said low-grade bearings,
until it doesn't."

Give 'er another squirt, and see if it will spin...

Give them a little more credit than that.

the stuff is in a spray can, so they get points for ease of application vs
the complete garbage plastic oilers that 3 in 1 comes in now. All those
things do it drip oil everwhere but where you need it.

I botched up a screw drive garage door opener with a lube that well, was a
bit too thick. Took a while to clean all the crap off and apply the right
oil or lube it needed. Whoops.


What did you apply, 30-weight? g

Some years ago I had an interesting conversation with the VP of
industrial lubricants at Exxon-Mobil. I think I reported it here. It
helped get me down to earth regarding lubricants, additives, and
special applications.

I suppose you know that all "synthetic" oils are made from petroleum
oil.

--
Ed Huntress

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:03:59 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:51:57 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 6/11/2015 9:21 AM, Neville M. Wiles wrote:
On 6/11/2015 7:18 AM, Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

jesus - could you possibly be more passive about obtaining information?

https://www.google.com/search?q=gara...utf-8&oe=utf-8



I recently used the 3 in 1 garage door lube from Lowes.
All I can add is, my wife's comment.

"What did you do to the garage door, it's so quiet!"

All I could say is, I spent half the afternoon working on it,
but I got it quieted down, for you dear. :-)

Mikek


The non-engine lubricant business, like many other commodity
businesses, has made target-market differentiation its main method of
marketing. The idea is to take a commodity and claim that it's made
specifically for some special purpose. Kingsford Competition
Briquettes are one of my favorite examples. g

I read the Kingston web page to my wife, who grew up cooking on
charcoal, and she declared it as "utterly false" (I translated her
reply which was a bit more colorful) or, she commented, "those
foreigners don't know much about cooking with charcoal" :-)

If they described it functionally, it would be something like "Garden
variety lubricant suitable for low-grade bearings that wobble around
with atrocious clearances in misaligned channels, and may have to run
with dirt of various kinds, including cat droppings. Prevents
screeching, howling, and absolute freezing of said low-grade bearings,
until it doesn't."

Give 'er another squirt, and see if it will spin...
--
cheers,

John B.

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:51:57 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 6/11/2015 9:21 AM, Neville M. Wiles wrote:
On 6/11/2015 7:18 AM, Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

jesus - could you possibly be more passive about obtaining information?

https://www.google.com/search?q=gara...utf-8&oe=utf-8



I recently used the 3 in 1 garage door lube from Lowes.
All I can add is, my wife's comment.

"What did you do to the garage door, it's so quiet!"

All I could say is, I spent half the afternoon working on it,
but I got it quieted down, for you dear. :-)

Mikek


The non-engine lubricant business, like many other commodity
businesses, has made target-market differentiation its main method of
marketing. The idea is to take a commodity and claim that it's made
specifically for some special purpose. Kingsford Competition
Briquettes are one of my favorite examples. g

If they described it functionally, it would be something like "Garden
variety lubricant suitable for low-grade bearings that wobble around
with atrocious clearances in misaligned channels, and may have to run
with dirt of various kinds, including cat droppings. Prevents
screeching, howling, and absolute freezing of said low-grade bearings,
until it doesn't."

Give 'er another squirt, and see if it will spin...

--
Ed Huntress

Interesting note: Scott Logan says that, with the exception of the geared-headstocks, he uses #2 way oil for EVERY PART of his Logan lathes, So much for all the specialty stuff. When it comes to caring for my Logan, I'm going to take advice from Scott before I take it from Exxon-Mobil.

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:40:39 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:51:57 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 6/11/2015 9:21 AM, Neville M. Wiles wrote:
On 6/11/2015 7:18 AM, Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

jesus - could you possibly be more passive about obtaining information?

https://www.google.com/search?q=gara...utf-8&oe=utf-8



I recently used the 3 in 1 garage door lube from Lowes.
All I can add is, my wife's comment.

"What did you do to the garage door, it's so quiet!"

All I could say is, I spent half the afternoon working on it,
but I got it quieted down, for you dear. :-)

Mikek


The non-engine lubricant business, like many other commodity
businesses, has made target-market differentiation its main method of
marketing. The idea is to take a commodity and claim that it's made
specifically for some special purpose. Kingsford Competition
Briquettes are one of my favorite examples. g

If they described it functionally, it would be something like "Garden
variety lubricant suitable for low-grade bearings that wobble around
with atrocious clearances in misaligned channels, and may have to run
with dirt of various kinds, including cat droppings. Prevents
screeching, howling, and absolute freezing of said low-grade bearings,
until it doesn't."

Give 'er another squirt, and see if it will spin...

--
Ed Huntress

Interesting note: Scott Logan says that, with the exception of the geared-headstocks, he uses #2 way oil for EVERY PART of his Logan lathes, So much for all the specialty stuff. When it comes to caring for my Logan, I'm going to take advice from Scott before I take it from Exxon-Mobil.

Well, the general cast of the discussion I had with that Exxon-Mobil
engineer was more like that of Scott than that of the "specialty" lube
makers. She said that it doesn't make a lot of difference until you
get into really complex lube tasks like lubricating a car engine.

--
Ed Huntress

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:40:39 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:51:57 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 6/11/2015 9:21 AM, Neville M. Wiles wrote:
On 6/11/2015 7:18 AM, Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

jesus - could you possibly be more passive about obtaining information?

https://www.google.com/search?q=gara...utf-8&oe=utf-8



I recently used the 3 in 1 garage door lube from Lowes.
All I can add is, my wife's comment.

"What did you do to the garage door, it's so quiet!"

All I could say is, I spent half the afternoon working on it,
but I got it quieted down, for you dear. :-)

Mikek


The non-engine lubricant business, like many other commodity
businesses, has made target-market differentiation its main method of
marketing. The idea is to take a commodity and claim that it's made
specifically for some special purpose. Kingsford Competition
Briquettes are one of my favorite examples. g

If they described it functionally, it would be something like "Garden
variety lubricant suitable for low-grade bearings that wobble around
with atrocious clearances in misaligned channels, and may have to run
with dirt of various kinds, including cat droppings. Prevents
screeching, howling, and absolute freezing of said low-grade bearings,
until it doesn't."

Give 'er another squirt, and see if it will spin...

--
Ed Huntress

Interesting note: Scott Logan says that, with the exception of the geared-headstocks, he uses #2 way oil for EVERY PART of his Logan lathes, So much for all the specialty stuff. When it comes to caring for my Logan, I'm going to take advice from Scott before I take it from Exxon-Mobil.

But what is #2 Way Oil?
--
cheers,

John B.

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers


Dry dusty areas - Teflon based dry lube spray

Reasonably dust free areas - Motorcycle chain lube.

--
Steve W.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:38:14 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers


Dry dusty areas - Teflon based dry lube spray

Reasonably dust free areas - Motorcycle chain lube.

Jeez. I've used left-over motor oil on mine for 38 years. They're
still going strong.

I started with 10W-40. Now we're at synthetic 5W-20. Whatever is left
over goes into my "what the hell" pump oiler.

--
Ed Huntress

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:38:14 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

Dry dusty areas - Teflon based dry lube spray

Reasonably dust free areas - Motorcycle chain lube.

Jeez. I've used left-over motor oil on mine for 38
years. They're
still going strong.

I started with 10W-40. Now we're at synthetic 5W-20. Whatever is
left over goes into my "what the hell" pump oiler.

Once motor oil leaves the engine, it should ONLY go to recycling. It shouldn't be used for anything else.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:03:44 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:38:14 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

Dry dusty areas - Teflon based dry lube spray

Reasonably dust free areas - Motorcycle chain lube.

Jeez. I've used left-over motor oil on mine for 38
years. They're
still going strong.

I started with 10W-40. Now we're at synthetic 5W-20. Whatever is
left over goes into my "what the hell" pump oiler.

Once motor oil leaves the engine, it should ONLY go to recycling. It shouldn't be used for anything else.

I didn't say "used." I said "left-over," as in the drips that are left
in the bottom of a can of oil when you change the oil in your car or
lawn mower.

--
Ed Huntress

On 6/11/2015 12:03 PM, wrote:

Once motor oil leaves the engine, it should ONLY go to recycling. It shouldn't be used for anything else.


How about as a release agent on concrete forms? [rhetorical]

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 12:03:47 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:38:14 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

Dry dusty areas - Teflon based dry lube spray

Reasonably dust free areas - Motorcycle chain lube.

Jeez. I've used left-over motor oil on mine for 38
years. They're
still going strong.

I started with 10W-40. Now we're at synthetic 5W-20. Whatever is
left over goes into my "what the hell" pump oiler.

Once motor oil leaves the engine, it should ONLY go to recycling. It shouldn't be used for anything else.

Makes great chainsaw bar oil. I'm sure you'll tell me how bad I'm polluting now.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:14:43 -0700 (PDT), Garrett Fulton
wrote:

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 12:03:47 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:38:14 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

Dry dusty areas - Teflon based dry lube spray

Reasonably dust free areas - Motorcycle chain lube.

Jeez. I've used left-over motor oil on mine for 38
years. They're
still going strong.

I started with 10W-40. Now we're at synthetic 5W-20. Whatever is
left over goes into my "what the hell" pump oiler.

Once motor oil leaves the engine, it should ONLY go to recycling. It shouldn't be used for anything else.

Makes great chainsaw bar oil. I'm sure you'll tell me how bad I'm polluting now.

Yum, bypassed combustion products and acids on my chainsaw bar,
sprocket, and chain...I can't _wait_ to try that at home!

--
Worrying does not take away tomorrow's troubles,
it takes away today's peace. --Lifehack

wrote:
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:38:14 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers
Dry dusty areas - Teflon based dry lube spray

Reasonably dust free areas - Motorcycle chain lube.
Jeez. I've used left-over motor oil on mine for 38 years. They're
still going strong.

I started with 10W-40. Now we're at synthetic 5W-20. Whatever is
left over goes into my "what the hell" pump oiler.

Once motor oil leaves the engine, it should ONLY go to recycling. It
shouldn't be used for anything else.

OOPS, Guess I shouldn't be using it in the waste oil furnace in the shop
or to fuel my foundry furnace...

But it does work really well for both...

--
Steve W.

Dicker wrote in news:2bafc
:

What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+a+good+...door+roller s

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

boiled linseed oil works great, keeps everything from rusting.

Cydrome Leader fired this volley in news:mlcav8
:

boiled linseed oil works great, keeps everything from rusting.

Yep... then top that off with LOTS of dry graphite, to keep everything
moving smoothly. 'Bout a 1/2-oz per foot of roller channel works well.

On 6/11/2015 12:00 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
Cydrome Leader fired this volley in news:mlcav8
:

boiled linseed oil works great, keeps everything from rusting.

Yep... then top that off with LOTS of dry graphite, to keep everything
moving smoothly. 'Bout a 1/2-oz per foot of roller channel works well.


What am I missing: garage door rollers are supposed to roll, the channel
doesn't need to be lubricated.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:54:16 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

boiled linseed oil works great, keeps everything from rusting.

And what do you do when it oxidizes and hardens? It's the basis of
real, old-fashioned oil-based paint. First it turns to something like
the gunk inside the lid of a molasses jar, and then it turns to
varnish.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress fired this volley in
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And what do you do when it oxidizes and hardens? It's the basis of
real, old-fashioned oil-based paint. First it turns to something like
the gunk inside the lid of a molasses jar, and then it turns to
varnish.

REALLY? And then all that graphite would turn it into BLACK varnish?

Wow! What an amazing factoid!

face-palm action

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
Ed Huntress fired this volley in
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And what do you do when it oxidizes and hardens? It's the basis of
real, old-fashioned oil-based paint. First it turns to something like
the gunk inside the lid of a molasses jar, and then it turns to
varnish.

REALLY? And then all that graphite would turn it into BLACK varnish?

Wow! What an amazing factoid!

face-palm action

ROTFLMAO

--
Snag

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:17:01 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Ed Huntress fired this volley in
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And what do you do when it oxidizes and hardens? It's the basis of
real, old-fashioned oil-based paint. First it turns to something like
the gunk inside the lid of a molasses jar, and then it turns to
varnish.

REALLY? And then all that graphite would turn it into BLACK varnish?

Wow! What an amazing factoid!

face-palm action

Yup. Black paint, as any handyman over 60 ought to know.

Our oldest family home, built in 1741 in Greenland, NH, was painted
with a mixture of linseed oil and white lead for well over 100 years.
'Makes good paint.

And several of my gunstocks are coated with hand-rubbed linseed, which
dries in a month or so.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress fired this volley in
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And several of my gunstocks are coated with hand-rubbed linseed, which
dries in a month or so.

Not if it's PROPERLY "boiled". You must've done them with commercial
'boiled linseed oil', which is not cooked, just prepared with chemical
dryers to eventually sequester all the fats. In the long view, it's
terrible stuff which stays sticky for a LONG time.

Proper old-school cooked, skimmed, strained linseed oil, on exposure to
the oxygen in the air, polymerizes perfectly in about a week. In order
to do that, ALL the fats have to be cooked out and mechanically removed.

And, if you pre-treat the wood with a potassium permanganate solution
(and clean it again) to accelerate the normal slow oxidation process of
the wood's own resins, you'll get a "years old" patina in about two
months.

I've done a whole bunch of that, building period reproduction furniture.

L

Ed Huntress writes:

Our oldest family home, built in 1741 in Greenland, NH, was painted
with a mixture of linseed oil and white lead for well over 100 years.
'Makes good paint.

And several of my gunstocks are coated with hand-rubbed linseed, which
dries in a month or so.

And blacksmiths traditionally (and still) rub workpieces straight
from the fire (sooty, some scale) with linseed oil while just hot enough
to gently smoke a bit. The heat accelerates the polymerization and the
wiped-down piece is no longer sticky by the time it's cool enough to
handle. Makes a nice, somewhat weather resistant black finish.

For wood, a point to note is that "boiled" linseed may contain cobalt
dryer. Probably not very much but cobalt is toxic so you may want to
avoid it on salad bowls and food prep surfaces.

Surely anyone suggesting linseed as a lubricant is doing it toungue in
cheek? Surely? :-o

--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:54:16 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

boiled linseed oil works great, keeps everything from rusting.

And what do you do when it oxidizes and hardens? It's the basis of
real, old-fashioned oil-based paint. First it turns to something
like
the gunk inside the lid of a molasses jar, and then it turns to
varnish.

--
Ed Huntress

Eventually it hardens into Linoleum.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:29:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:54:16 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

boiled linseed oil works great, keeps everything from rusting.

And what do you do when it oxidizes and hardens? It's the basis of
real, old-fashioned oil-based paint. First it turns to something
like
the gunk inside the lid of a molasses jar, and then it turns to
varnish.

--
Ed Huntress

Eventually it hardens into Linoleum.

Which makes me wonder if these guys are trying to give Dicker the
shaft. Not nice.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:54:16 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote:

Dicker wrote:
What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers
boiled linseed oil works great, keeps everything from rusting.

And what do you do when it oxidizes and hardens? It's the basis of
real, old-fashioned oil-based paint. First it turns to something like
the gunk inside the lid of a molasses jar, and then it turns to
varnish.


Which is why a lot of old engine folks use it to preserve their engines.
Brush it on and let it dry, apply a couple coats and it keeps them
looking good for years.

--
Steve W.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:18:02 +0000, Dicker
wrote:

What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers
How about something like "Garage door lubricant" from AGS in Muskegon
Michigan. The tube I have says cat no GLC-1 It is a 34 gram tube and
I've had it for at least a decade.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:18:02 +0000, Dicker
wrote:

What is a good lubricant for garage door rollers

Garage door lube in a can. Second is spray white lithium.
Spray the bearings only, not the tracks and wheels. Spray the axles if
they're loose-caught in their holders. Nothing else quiets squeaks.

Tighten all hinge screws properly, too.

Wax between door sections if they creak. Car wax or polymer treatment
works well.

Lube the garage door opener rod bearings, too. Tighten all screws.

http://www.amazon.com/Blaster-GDL-TS...dp/B0036VQE9G/
Best, doesn't attract dust.

--
Worrying does not take away tomorrow's troubles,
it takes away today's peace. --Lifehack