On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:40:24 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

American Veteran Michelle Manhart Picks Up US Flag from Desecration
at Georgia University – Gets Arrested

snip


Interestingly enough, according to the US Code regarding desecration
of the United States Flag, it reads:

(a)(1) Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles,
burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of
the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for
not more than one year, or both.

(2) This subsection does not prohibit any conduct consisting of
the disposal of a flag when it has become worn or soiled.

(b) As used in this section, the term "flag of the United States"
means any flag of the United States, or any part thereof, made of any
substance, of any size, in a form that is commonly displayed.

(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed as indicating an
intent on the part of Congress to deprive any State, territory,
possession, or the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico of jurisdiction over
any offense over which it would have jurisdiction in the absence of
this section.

(d)(1) An appeal may be taken directly to the Supreme Court of the
United States from any interlocutory or final judgment, decree, or
order issued by a United States district court ruling upon the
constitutionality of subsection (a).

(2) The Supreme Court shall, if it has not previously ruled on the
question, accept jurisdiction over the appeal and advance on the
docket and expedite to the greatest extent possible.

(Added Pub. L. 90–381, §1, July 5, 1968, 82 Stat. 291; amended
Pub. L. 101–131, §§2, 3, Oct. 28, 1989, 103 Stat. 777.)

Amendments

1989—Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 101–131, §2(a), amended subsec. (a)
generally. Prior to amendment, subsec. (a) read as follows: "Whoever
knowingly casts contempt upon any flag of the United States by
publicly mutilating, defacing, defiling, burning, or trampling upon it
shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned for not more than
one year, or both."

Subsec. (b). Pub. L. 101–131, §2(b), amended subsec. (b)
generally. Prior to amendment, subsec. (b) read as follows: "The term
'flag of the United States' as used in this section, shall include any
flag, standard colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of
either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or
represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be
either of said flag, standard, color, or ensign of the United States
of America, or a picture or a representation of either, upon which
shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of
either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the
average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the
same to represent the flag, standards, colors, or ensign of the United
States of America."

Subsec. (d). Pub. L. 101–131, §3, added subsec. (d).

Short Title of 2000 Amendment

Pub. L. 106–547, §1, Dec. 19, 2000, 114 Stat. 2738, provided that:
"This Act [enacting sections 716 and 1036 of this title] may be cited
as the 'Enhanced Federal Security Act of 2000'."

Short Title of 1989 Amendment

Section 1 of Pub. L. 101–131 provided that: "This Act [amending
this section] may be cited as the 'Flag Protection Act of 1989'."

Apparently, those that were violating the code here were neither fined
nor imprisoned. Yet, the one who stood up and sought to protect it
from desecration was arrested. Go figure!

If you really don't understand the law here, see USSC, United States
vs. Eichman, 1990. The "Flag Protection Act" has long been declared
unconstitutional. And, if you don't understand why she was arrested,
watch the video of her arrest.

It would take an amendment to the Constitution, which has been
attempted many times, but which Congress has never passed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_Desecration_Amendment

--
Ed Huntress

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 03:04:42 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:40:24 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

American Veteran Michelle Manhart Picks Up US Flag from Desecration
at Georgia University – Gets Arrested

snip


Interestingly enough, according to the US Code regarding desecration
of the United States Flag, it reads:

(a)(1) Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles,
burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of
the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for
not more than one year, or both.

She's clearly willing to endure all sorts of indignities in order to
protect the flag.
http://www.gafollowers.com/wp-conten...8200xq280e.jpg
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...cle-1.2190637#



If you really don't understand the law here, see USSC, United States
vs. Eichman, 1990. The "Flag Protection Act" has long been declared
unconstitutional. And, if you don't understand why she was arrested,
watch the video of her arrest.

It would take an amendment to the Constitution, which has been
attempted many times, but which Congress has never passed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_Desecration_Amendment

--
Ned Simmons

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 10:47:56 -0400, Ned Simmons
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 03:04:42 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:40:24 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

American Veteran Michelle Manhart Picks Up US Flag from Desecration
at Georgia University – Gets Arrested

snip


Interestingly enough, according to the US Code regarding desecration
of the United States Flag, it reads:

(a)(1) Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles,
burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of
the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for
not more than one year, or both.

She's clearly willing to endure all sorts of indignities in order to
protect the flag.
http://www.gafollowers.com/wp-conten...8200xq280e.jpg

Stars, Stripes, and Nudity Forever...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...cle-1.2190637#



If you really don't understand the law here, see USSC, United States
vs. Eichman, 1990. The "Flag Protection Act" has long been declared
unconstitutional. And, if you don't understand why she was arrested,
watch the video of her arrest.

It would take an amendment to the Constitution, which has been
attempted many times, but which Congress has never passed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_Desecration_Amendment

On 4/19/2015 11:00 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

Stars, Stripes, and Nudity Forever...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...cle-1.2190637#


Which, in itself, would be consider desecration of the flag...


From the code:

The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or
drapery", or for covering a speaker's desk, draping a platform, or for
any decoration in general (exception for coffins). Bunting of blue,
white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe
of the bunting should be on the top.[7]

The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It
should not be embroidered, printed, or otherwise impressed on such
articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything
intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should
not be attached to the staff or halyard.

The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic
uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military
personnel, firefighters, police officers, and members of patriotic
organizations.

The flag should never have any mark, insignia, letter, word,
number, figure, or drawing of any kind placed on it or attached to it.


I'm reading that last one - the figure part - includes nudes?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:21:06 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 4/19/2015 11:00 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

Stars, Stripes, and Nudity Forever...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...cle-1.2190637#


Which, in itself, would be consider desecration of the flag...


From the code:

The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or
drapery", or for covering a speaker's desk, draping a platform, or for
any decoration in general (exception for coffins). Bunting of blue,
white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe
of the bunting should be on the top.[7]

The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It
should not be embroidered, printed, or otherwise impressed on such
articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything
intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should
not be attached to the staff or halyard.

The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic
uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military
personnel, firefighters, police officers, and members of patriotic
organizations.

The flag should never have any mark, insignia, letter, word,
number, figure, or drawing of any kind placed on it or attached to it.


I'm reading that last one - the figure part - includes nudes?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

That's a good question, Richard. Maybe if she made a thong out of it,
with the stars on her butt...

--
Ed Huntress

On 4/22/2015 5:25 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:21:06 -0500,
wrote:

On 4/19/2015 11:00 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

Stars, Stripes, and Nudity Forever...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...cle-1.2190637#


Which, in itself, would be consider desecration of the flag...


From the code:

The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or
drapery", or for covering a speaker's desk, draping a platform, or for
any decoration in general (exception for coffins). Bunting of blue,
white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe
of the bunting should be on the top.[7]

The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It
should not be embroidered, printed, or otherwise impressed on such
articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything
intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should
not be attached to the staff or halyard.

The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic
uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military
personnel, firefighters, police officers, and members of patriotic
organizations.

The flag should never have any mark, insignia, letter, word,
number, figure, or drawing of any kind placed on it or attached to it.


I'm reading that last one - the figure part - includes nudes?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

That's a good question, Richard. Maybe if she made a thong out of it,
with the stars on her butt...


Thank you, Ed, for the snotty reply.

I have to remember, sometimes, that you live in the People's Democratic
State of New Jersey.

They don't do America there.

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:08:03 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 4/22/2015 5:25 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:21:06 -0500,
wrote:

On 4/19/2015 11:00 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

Stars, Stripes, and Nudity Forever...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...cle-1.2190637#


Which, in itself, would be consider desecration of the flag...


From the code:

The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or
drapery", or for covering a speaker's desk, draping a platform, or for
any decoration in general (exception for coffins). Bunting of blue,
white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe
of the bunting should be on the top.[7]

The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It
should not be embroidered, printed, or otherwise impressed on such
articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything
intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should
not be attached to the staff or halyard.

The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic
uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military
personnel, firefighters, police officers, and members of patriotic
organizations.

The flag should never have any mark, insignia, letter, word,
number, figure, or drawing of any kind placed on it or attached to it.


I'm reading that last one - the figure part - includes nudes?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

That's a good question, Richard. Maybe if she made a thong out of it,
with the stars on her butt...


Thank you, Ed, for the snotty reply.

I have to remember, sometimes, that you live in the People's Democratic
State of New Jersey.

I have to remember, sometimes, that you can be one prickly s.o.b. who
appears to be making a joke and then takes offense when it turns our
you're not.

Suit yourself, Richard. It looked like a joke to me, and I was playing
along. I won't make that mistake again.


They don't do America there.

They don't do it in Texas, where the governor makes a big point of the
crazy idea that Texas has a special dispensation to secede from the
union at any time they want -- makes a big gesture to the press about
it -- and then says he wants to be president of it.

Or where one of your senators decided just two years ago that he
didn't want to be a Canadian any longer, dropped his dual citizenship,
deciding he wanted to be an American after all -- in fact, he wanted
to be president of it.

Texas is one screwed-up bunch of crazies. New Jersey IS the U.S. --
one of the originals. Maybe they don't put that in the Texas history
books. Sometimes it seems to us that it was a big mistake to let you
crackpots into the union.

Half the time, you're threatening to leave it. The other half, you're
telling us you *are* it. 'Sounds a little schizoid.

--
Ed Huntress

On 4/22/2015 9:09 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:08:03 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 4/22/2015 5:25 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:21:06 -0500,
wrote:

On 4/19/2015 11:00 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

Stars, Stripes, and Nudity Forever...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...cle-1.2190637#

Which, in itself, would be consider desecration of the flag...


From the code:

The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or
drapery", or for covering a speaker's desk, draping a platform, or for
any decoration in general (exception for coffins). Bunting of blue,
white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe
of the bunting should be on the top.[7]

The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It
should not be embroidered, printed, or otherwise impressed on such
articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything
intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should
not be attached to the staff or halyard.

The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic
uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military
personnel, firefighters, police officers, and members of patriotic
organizations.

The flag should never have any mark, insignia, letter, word,
number, figure, or drawing of any kind placed on it or attached to it.


I'm reading that last one - the figure part - includes nudes?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code
That's a good question, Richard. Maybe if she made a thong out of it,
with the stars on her butt...

Thank you, Ed, for the snotty reply.

I have to remember, sometimes, that you live in the People's Democratic
State of New Jersey.
I have to remember, sometimes, that you can be one prickly s.o.b. who
appears to be making a joke and then takes offense when it turns our
you're not.

Suit yourself, Richard. It looked like a joke to me, and I was playing
along. I won't make that mistake again.

They don't do America there.
They don't do it in Texas, where the governor makes a big point of the
crazy idea that Texas has a special dispensation to secede from the
union at any time they want -- makes a big gesture to the press about
it -- and then says he wants to be president of it.

Or where one of your senators decided just two years ago that he
didn't want to be a Canadian any longer, dropped his dual citizenship,
deciding he wanted to be an American after all -- in fact, he wanted
to be president of it.

Texas is one screwed-up bunch of crazies. New Jersey IS the U.S. --
one of the originals. Maybe they don't put that in the Texas history
books. Sometimes it seems to us that it was a big mistake to let you
crackpots into the union.

Half the time, you're threatening to leave it. The other half, you're
telling us you *are* it. 'Sounds a little schizoid.


I'll stick with Rick either way.

Better than your girl, Christy.
What a cry baby.
He keeps crying, "Hey, I ain't done yet", but he is.

Well, enough political sparring.
Ed, you are just being mule headed.
And I am not the Jackass Whisperer!

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:08:03 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 4/22/2015 5:25 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:21:06 -0500,
wrote:

On 4/19/2015 11:00 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

Stars, Stripes, and Nudity Forever...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...cle-1.2190637#


Which, in itself, would be consider desecration of the flag...


From the code:

The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or
drapery", or for covering a speaker's desk, draping a platform, or for
any decoration in general (exception for coffins). Bunting of blue,
white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe
of the bunting should be on the top.[7]

The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It
should not be embroidered, printed, or otherwise impressed on such
articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything
intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should
not be attached to the staff or halyard.

The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic
uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military
personnel, firefighters, police officers, and members of patriotic
organizations.

The flag should never have any mark, insignia, letter, word,
number, figure, or drawing of any kind placed on it or attached to it.


I'm reading that last one - the figure part - includes nudes?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

That's a good question, Richard. Maybe if she made a thong out of it,
with the stars on her butt...


Thank you, Ed, for the snotty reply.

I have to remember, sometimes, that you live in the People's Democratic
State of New Jersey.

They don't do America there.

Come now Richard. the first settlement in New Jersey (by Anglos) was
in 1624 and New Jersey was the 3rd state to ratify the U.S.
constitution.

The state of Texas, on the other hand, apparently didn't exist until
around 1840-something and from what I can determine has never ratified
the U.S. Constitution.
--
cheers,

John B.