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I have been tasked with moving a Crown 3500# electric forklift out of a building where a flatbed tow truck can get to it. Forklift is not functional and will have to be drug to a door that is 90 degrees and 100 feet away. Nothing substantial to hook a snatch block in the building to to be able to move it in the direction of the door. I'm hoping that the tow truck can back into the building and tie off a snatch block to the back of his truck. Questions are-can the rack be lifted above the ground without damaging the hydraulics? Chainfall from cage to rack and lift 6-8 inches? And leaned back the same way? Someone suggested using a pallet jack to move it but I don't think a pallet jack will fit under it. I'm sure someone here has faced this problem before. Thanks in advance for suggestions
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On 09/17/2014 11:50 AM, Gerry wrote:
I have been tasked with moving a Crown 3500# electric forklift out of
a building where a flatbed tow truck can get to it. Forklift is not
functional ...

....
... Questions are-can the rack be
lifted above the ground without damaging the hydraulics? Chainfall
from cage to rack and lift 6-8 inches? And leaned back the same way?
Someone suggested using a pallet jack to move it but I don't think a
pallet jack will fit under it. I'm sure someone here has faced this
problem before. Thanks in advance for suggestions


Yeah, I'm sure somebody has--that somebody would be Crown. Call and
talk to them directly.

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On 9/17/2014 9:50 AM, Gerry wrote:
I have been tasked with moving a Crown 3500# electric forklift out of a building where a flatbed tow truck can get to it. Forklift is not functional and will have to be drug to a door that is 90 degrees and 100 feet away. Nothing substantial to hook a snatch block in the building to to be able to move it in the direction of the door. I'm hoping that the tow truck can back into the building and tie off a snatch block to the back of his truck. Questions are-can the rack be lifted above the ground without damaging the hydraulics? Chainfall from cage to rack and lift 6-8 inches? And leaned back the same way? Someone suggested using a pallet jack to move it but I don't think a pallet jack will fit under it. I'm sure someone here has faced this problem before. Thanks in advance for suggestions

Yes, you can move the hydraulics and get them to stay by holding the
corresponding control lever in the direction you want the hydraulics to
move and physically moving them to where you want with a jack or
whatever and then releasing the control lever before removing the jack.

If that fails, use a chain or husky rope to hold the piece in position
once it is jacked up.

Do you have a neighbor with a fork lift to help?

Worst case to move the thing is to get a 4X4 long enough to fit across
the doorway. Get a suitable long chain or cable and a husky come-a-long
fasten the cable/chain around the 4X4 and the come-a-long to the old
fork lift and start cranking.

I guess I don't need to tell you to make sure the brakes are off.

Do you have a buddy with a big pickup and winch?

Lots of ways to move things.

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On 09/17/2014 11:50 AM, Gerry wrote:
I have been tasked with moving a Crown 3500# electric forklift out of
a building where a flatbed tow truck can get to it. Forklift is not
functional ...

...
... Questions are-can the rack be
lifted above the ground without damaging the hydraulics? Chainfall
from cage to rack and lift 6-8 inches? And leaned back the same way?
Someone suggested using a pallet jack to move it but I don't think a
pallet jack will fit under it. I'm sure someone here has faced this
problem before. Thanks in advance for suggestions


A chainfall / comealong will lift the first stage of the mast just fine.
They are pretty much all single action hydraulics, and you will in all
probability just have the lift chains go slack. Make sure when you lower
it you do it slowly and keep the chains from going off their guides /
rollers.

Any of the electric warehouse forklifts have very little ground
clearance. They will also be heavier than a standard pallet jack can
handle. My little stand up rider 3k forklift is about 6,300#, vs. a
typical 5,500# rated palette jack. Removing the battery will take a good
1,500# off that however. A port-a-power kit and some cribbing could lift
the batteryless forklift high enough to get it on a palette jack.
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Gerry fired this volley in
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I have been tasked with moving a Crown 3500# electric forklift out of
a building where a flatbed tow truck can get to it. Forklift is not


You can certainly lift the forks without harming it, so long as you take
care not to let the chains slack off the idler pulleys or sprockets.

To move it, soap the floor, and just slide it as far as you must to get it
up onto the flatbed. Soap the flatbed ramp, too. Use a paste soap like
the old wire-pulling compound.

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On 2014-09-17, Gerry wrote:
I have been tasked with moving a Crown 3500# electric forklift out
of a building where a flatbed tow truck can get to it. Forklift is
not functional and will have to be drug to a door that is 90 degrees
and 100 feet away. Nothing substantial to hook a snatch block in the
building to to be able to move it in the direction of the door. I'm
hoping that the tow truck can back into the building and tie off a
snatch block to the back of his truck. Questions are-can the rack be
lifted above the ground without damaging the hydraulics? Chainfall
from cage to rack and lift 6-8 inches? And leaned back the same way?
Someone suggested using a pallet jack to move it but I don't think a
pallet jack will fit under it. I'm sure someone here has faced this
problem before. Thanks in advance for suggestions


Your electric forklift weighs about 5,000 lbs with battery and 3,000
lbs without.

You can easily lift the forks up and you will not damage anything.

However, your forklift emay also have electric brakes and will not
want to be rolled around on its own wheels.

You can jack it up and put it on skates, but it will be difficult to
skate so much weight.

You can move anything, but without the right equipment it will take
longer.

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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:09:52 -0500, Ignoramus20222
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You can move anything, but without the right equipment it will take
longer.


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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:49:14 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
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Gerry fired this volley in
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I have been tasked with moving a Crown 3500# electric forklift out of
a building where a flatbed tow truck can get to it. Forklift is not


You can certainly lift the forks without harming it, so long as you take
care not to let the chains slack off the idler pulleys or sprockets.

To move it, soap the floor, and just slide it as far as you must to get it
up onto the flatbed. Soap the flatbed ramp, too. Use a paste soap like
the old wire-pulling compound.


Soap? What a great idea!

For some reason, when you wrote that, my mind went directly to the old
'Chicken Heart' skit by Bill Cosby. "Start smearin' that Jello!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhwF2d8QyvU I sure miss that guy.

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I have been tasked with moving a Crown 3500# electric forklift out of a building where a flatbed tow truck can get to it. Forklift is not functional and will have to be drug to a door that is 90 degrees and 100 feet away. Nothing substantial to hook a snatch block in the building to to be able to move it in the direction of the door. I'm hoping that the tow truck can back into the building and tie off a snatch block to the back of his truck. Questions are-can the rack be lifted above the ground without damaging the hydraulics? Chainfall from cage to rack and lift 6-8 inches? And leaned back the same way? Someone suggested using a pallet jack to move it but I don't think a pallet jack will fit under it. I'm sure someone here has faced this problem before. Thanks in advance for suggestions


Wont it simply go into "Neutral"?


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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:50:26 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
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I have been tasked with moving a Crown 3500# electric forklift out of a building where a flatbed tow truck can get to it. Forklift is not functional and will have to be drug to a door that is 90 degrees and 100 feet away. Nothing substantial to hook a snatch block in the building to to be able to move it in the direction of the door. I'm hoping that the tow truck can back into the building and tie off a snatch block to the back of his truck. Questions are-can the rack be lifted above the ground without damaging the hydraulics? Chainfall from cage to rack and lift 6-8 inches? And leaned back the same way? Someone suggested using a pallet jack to move it but I don't think a pallet jack will fit under it. I'm sure someone here has faced this problem before. Thanks in advance for suggestions


Wont it simply go into "Neutral"?


"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
PJ O'Rourke

No "neutral" on a direct drive electric ---- No transmission or
clutch either


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On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:46:20 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:50:26 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
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I have been tasked with moving a Crown 3500# electric forklift out of a building where a flatbed tow truck can get to it. Forklift is not functional and will have to be drug to a door that is 90 degrees and 100 feet away. Nothing substantial to hook a snatch block in the building to to be able to move it in the direction of the door. I'm hoping that the tow truck can back into the building and tie off a snatch block to the back of his truck. Questions are-can the rack be lifted above the ground without damaging the hydraulics? Chainfall from cage to rack and lift 6-8 inches? And leaned back the same way? Someone suggested using a pallet jack to move it but I don't think a pallet jack will fit under it. I'm sure someone here has faced this problem before. Thanks in advance for suggestions


Wont it simply go into "Neutral"?


"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
PJ O'Rourke

No "neutral" on a direct drive electric ---- No transmission or
clutch either



Ah! Some Ive puttered with DID have a clutch arraingement. When you
turned the power on it engaged the clutch. Had a parking brake and
everything


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demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
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Thanks guys! The deal fell through. I was to collect two Crown 35SCTT forklifts and their chargers and assemble them into one functional forklift. Would have required combining both batteries to make a single good battery and swapping parts as needed to create one usable forklift. To be honest, I am glad that the job went away. Thanks again for the suggestions!
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