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Ratcheting screwdriver, can you wear it out?
I'm talking about a typical ratcheting screwdriver like one that
has a hex bit holder on the end. I've done some research/shopping, I've seen many different brands. Talking about the ratcheting screwdrivers priced from $8-$30. How much force can be applied when turning it in the working direction, without doing any damage whatsoever? How long would it last if it were spun in the reverse direction? The direction that makes it click. Is there going to be much difference between $8 and $30 models in those respects? I intend to put them to the test. So I'm just wondering if it's in the ballpark to think that they can take all the force most of our hands put on them when using them to drive nuts or screws. And also that turning them in the reverse direction so they spin/click freely does no harm no matter how long you were to do that. Thanks. |
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Ratcheting screwdriver, can you wear it out?
I think that very cheap ones will fail sooner, and good ones probably will last forever if used reasonably. I had a ratcheting box wrench which died like the third time I used it. I doubt you could do any damage by spinning it in reverse unless maybe you attached it to a machine and spun it so long that it heated up!
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 05:37:48 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote: I'm talking about a typical ratcheting screwdriver like one that has a hex bit holder on the end. I've done some research/shopping, I've seen many different brands. Talking about the ratcheting screwdrivers priced from $8-$30. How much force can be applied when turning it in the working direction, without doing any damage whatsoever? How long would it last if it were spun in the reverse direction? The direction that makes it click. Is there going to be much difference between $8 and $30 models in those respects? I intend to put them to the test. So I'm just wondering if it's in the ballpark to think that they can take all the force most of our hands put on them when using them to drive nuts or screws. And also that turning them in the reverse direction so they spin/click freely does no harm no matter how long you were to do that. Thanks. Everything wears out..sooner or later. Cheaply made stuff goes sooner, better made stuff goes later. I have a SnapOn ratcheting screwdriver that finally "went". Its at least 25 yrs old and Ive used it "Hard" for those years. I need to find the SnapOn truck one of these days and get it replaced. Gunner - "[F]ar from being the Great Satan, I would say that we are the Great Protector. We have sent men and women from the armed forces of the United States to other parts of the world throughout the past century to put down oppression. We defeated Fascism. We defeated Communism. We saved Europe in World War I and World War II. We were willing to do it, glad to do it. We went to Korea. We went to Vietnam. All in the interest of preserving the rights of people. And when all those conflicts were over, what did we do? Did we stay and conquer? Did we say, "Okay, we defeated Germany. Now Germany belongs to us? We defeated Japan, so Japan belongs to us"? No. What did we do? We built them up. We gave them democratic systems which they have embraced totally to their soul. And did we ask for any land? No. The only land we ever asked for was enough land to bury our dead." General Colin Powell |
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"John Doe" wrote in message ... I'm talking about a typical ratcheting screwdriver like one that has a hex bit holder on the end. I've done some research/shopping, I've seen many different brands. Talking about the ratcheting screwdrivers priced from $8-$30. How much force can be applied when turning it in the working direction, without doing any damage whatsoever? How long would it last if it were spun in the reverse direction? The direction that makes it click. Is there going to be much difference between $8 and $30 models in those respects? I intend to put them to the test. So I'm just wondering if it's in the ballpark to think that they can take all the force most of our hands put on them when using them to drive nuts or screws. And also that turning them in the reverse direction so they spin/click freely does no harm no matter how long you were to do that. .. As Gunner said further down, I too have a SnapOn ratchet driver. I bought this with my first month's 'proper' wages back in 1981. It was ~£35 even then! It came with a spare ratchet assembly but it has never let me down, ever. It is in constant use. It is perhaps my favourite tool, along with my little Facom 1/4" socket set. JB |
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Maybe 8 bucks get you plastic gears. Maybe 30 bucks get you precision ground gears. Maybe the reverse. I have a palm driver - ratchet in it and it is a 'brand name' Made in not USA and one never knows. It was a gift so one just uses it until you can't and you get to keep the hex inserts. Some of those are made out of real tough metal, some out of cheap junk. You play the game and you takes your chance! Martin On 7/4/2014 4:43 AM, JB wrote: "John Doe" wrote in message ... I'm talking about a typical ratcheting screwdriver like one that has a hex bit holder on the end. I've done some research/shopping, I've seen many different brands. Talking about the ratcheting screwdrivers priced from $8-$30. How much force can be applied when turning it in the working direction, without doing any damage whatsoever? How long would it last if it were spun in the reverse direction? The direction that makes it click. Is there going to be much difference between $8 and $30 models in those respects? I intend to put them to the test. So I'm just wondering if it's in the ballpark to think that they can take all the force most of our hands put on them when using them to drive nuts or screws. And also that turning them in the reverse direction so they spin/click freely does no harm no matter how long you were to do that. .. As Gunner said further down, I too have a SnapOn ratchet driver. I bought this with my first month's 'proper' wages back in 1981. It was ~£35 even then! It came with a spare ratchet assembly but it has never let me down, ever. It is in constant use. It is perhaps my favourite tool, along with my little Facom 1/4" socket set. JB |
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Ratcheting screwdriver, can you wear it out?
Does anyone still have one of these?
http://makezine.com/review/tool-review-the-easydriver/ I have two and they both work fine, although the bit holder isn't so great. |
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Am Samstag, 5. Juli 2014 13:31:37 UTC+2 schrieb robobass:
Does anyone still have one of these? http://makezine.com/review/tool-review-the-easydriver/ I have two and they both work fine, although the bit holder isn't so great. I forgot to mention that it is from the late '70s. |
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 04:31:37 -0700 (PDT), robobass
wrote: Does anyone still have one of these? http://makezine.com/review/tool-review-the-easydriver/ I have two and they both work fine, although the bit holder isn't so great. My parents gave one to me for my birthday once, long, long ago. I think I was 20, so that puts it about 1974. It lasted quite a while, IIRC, 3 or 4 years. It wasn't useful in 75% of applications, but it did give me extra torque when I had the room and angle to use it. After it died, I got a Craftsman 1/4" drive set which had a spinner driver with a 1/4" square socket in the back. I was able to use my ratchet in it, so that gave me even more torque. I use that to this day. Well, a replacement spinner. The original finally broke and Searz wanted to give me a socketless version, which I immediately turned down. In the end, after several weeks fighting with a few Indian tech support folks from Searz, they sent $12 to me and I purchased an $8 NAPA spinner. It has been priceless to me over the years. I would strongly recommend the spinner rather than the EZ thing. http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...277_0006395328 I think this is the one. It has a the straight handle, like a screwdriver. The socket in the handle is what makes it special. -- The goal to strive for is a poor government but a rich people. --Andrew Johnson |
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On 7/5/2014 6:33 AM, robobass wrote:
Am Samstag, 5. Juli 2014 13:31:37 UTC+2 schrieb robobass: Does anyone still have one of these? http://makezine.com/review/tool-review-the-easydriver/ I have two and they both work fine, although the bit holder isn't so great. I forgot to mention that it is from the late '70s. And yes I have it in a tool box. Martin getting and buying tools from early 50's. |
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Ratcheting screwdriver, can you wear it out?
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Ratcheting screwdriver torque, see also one-way sprag type freewheel clutches Dewalt Ratcheting T-Handle 500 in-lbs. max torque Wera Kraftform 816 Maximum torque of up to 50 Nm (443 in-lbs) Dewalt DCD945 12v cordless drill... max torque of 44Nm (390 in-lbs) |
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Ratcheting screwdriver, can you wear it out?
On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 04:31:37 -0700 (PDT), robobass
wrote: Does anyone still have one of these? http://makezine.com/review/tool-review-the-easydriver/ I have two and they both work fine, although the bit holder isn't so great. I loved mine, particularly with a #2 Robertson drive tool in it. When I was running the alarm company I would go through one every 2 or 3 yrs. Not! because they wore out..but because I would drop one from a great height off a ladder onto a concrete floor..and after a while..they would bust into pieces. I still have some drivers and whatnot for them - "[F]ar from being the Great Satan, I would say that we are the Great Protector. We have sent men and women from the armed forces of the United States to other parts of the world throughout the past century to put down oppression. We defeated Fascism. We defeated Communism. We saved Europe in World War I and World War II. We were willing to do it, glad to do it. We went to Korea. We went to Vietnam. All in the interest of preserving the rights of people. And when all those conflicts were over, what did we do? Did we stay and conquer? Did we say, "Okay, we defeated Germany. Now Germany belongs to us? We defeated Japan, so Japan belongs to us"? No. What did we do? We built them up. We gave them democratic systems which they have embraced totally to their soul. And did we ask for any land? No. The only land we ever asked for was enough land to bury our dead." General Colin Powell |
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Ratcheting screwdriver, can you wear it out?
Dewalt Ratcheting T-Handle, 500 in-lbs. max torque
Just ordered two of them babies. The attachments look just excellent for my application. Will see. |
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On 2014-07-05, robobass wrote:
Does anyone still have one of these? http://makezine.com/review/tool-review-the-easydriver/ I have two and they both work fine, although the bit holder isn't so great. I have one -- somewhere. Except that mine was yellow and black, not red and black. Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | (KV4PH) Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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